Game of Thrones

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#gn :*
 
Иначе јака работа, пишував семинарска за Венеција во среден век, користејќи една стручна литература на англиски. И како што го опишува градот у неа, сфатив дека многу личи на еден друг град што го знам. Островчиња поврзани со канали и мостови, обединети под едно знаме, централизирана управа која патем е rich as fuck и нејзините финансиски средства ги користат сите големи играчи на сцената, мало местенце врз кое толку луѓе се потпираат. Бравос е буквална копија на Венеција, што е ептен кул работа за мене :D
 

Рики не ме јеби, не мислев на што животно е употребено за снимање, него што животно е во приказната.

Инаку:

http://mentalfloss.com/article/50927/real-life-events-inspired-sundays-game-thrones-episode

Беше правен муабетот на темава. За War of the Roses исто. И за спојлерите на кои можеш да налеташ ако не читаш внимателно по ваквиве страни. :D
 
Срејча шо не патуваме со БОжино појче за Битола заедно. Оти стануваше то модераторот посабајле, ja гледаше eпизодата пред сите, и се распуцуваше со сполјери низ автобус :D
 
За Бравос апла се гледаше дека инспирација му е Венеција (не, не му е оној ресторанот кај Симпо :D). Бонус: големата статуа му е од Колосот од Родос, едно од 7-те светски чуда. Скоро секој настан, култура, обичај си има некој еквивалент во историјата. Вестерос е западна Европа во развиеното средновековие, Валирија е нешто помеѓу Атлантида и Римското Царство, Дотраките се турко-монголските номадски племиња од централна Азија... примери има безброј.

Мене најинтересни ми се оние што можеме да си ги поврземе некако со нас. Орел, варгот од дивјаците што контролираше орли, на пример. Орел е општословенски збор.

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Во ред, ова може и да е случајно така погодено со Орел, ама адетот со лебот и солта му е дирекно земено!


Bread and salt is a welcome greeting ceremony in many European cultures.

The tradition, known by its local Slavic names: Belarusian: Хлеб і соль; Bulgarian: Хлјаб и сол; Macedonian: Леб и сол; Croatian: Kruh i sol; Serbian: Хлеб и со; Polish: Chleb i Sól; Slovak: Chlieb a soľ; Czech: Chléb a sůl; Slovene: Kruh in sol; Russian: Хлеб-соль, Ukrainian: Хліб-сіль was also adopted by two non-Slavic nations — Lithuanians (Baltic) and Romanians (Latin) — both of which are culturally and historically close to their Slavic neighbours (Lithuanian: Duona ir druska and Romanian: Pâine și sare).

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Има милион такви споредби, од кои многу и држат вода и се реални, па дури и двете различни верзии за една работа.

Еве една, не е логична за сите точки, али некои се општоприфатени. Ќе ја ставам во спојлер, иако нема спојлери. „Народите“ што се споменуваат ги немало можеби on screen во епизодите ама го има во History and Lore.

Andals - Anglos

  • Invasion from across a narrow sea to the Westerlands / Britainnia

  • Iron Age cultures

  • Fought against the first men & COTF / Celts.

  • The native religion of Westeros was replaced during the Andal conquest. Old Gods commonalities with Pagan religions, New Gods identify closer to Christianity.

  • Brought written language to the Wester lands with their conquest.

  • Hills of Andalos - Angles land & Saxony
The Seven - Catholic Trinity

  • Multiple aspects of a single being... or whatever.
Middle oceans - The Summer Sea & the Mediterranean

  • Located between three continental land masses, Westeros/Europe, Essos/Asia, Sothoryos/Africa.

  • Bay of Slaves - geographical equivalent to Adriatic sea. The Valyrian penninsula is geographically consistent with the Italian peninsula with Ghiscar being geographically consistent with Greece.
Old Ghis - ancient Greeks

I've heard people say the people of Ghis are like the Persians or other Eastern cultures like Pontus, but they're definitely based on the Greeks.

  • The relative locations of the two cultures mirrors our own... Both located on the shores of the Mediterranean/Summer sea in South-Central Essos/Southern Eurasia. (Valyrians/Romans to their west across the Bay of Slaves/Adriatic).

  • The Romans borrowed culturally from the Greeks in their infancy. Valyrians did the same to the Ghiscari - adopting then innovating from their technologies.

  • Slavery, essential to the Ghiscari, was also essential to some of the Greeks -- helot slaves outnumbered Spartan citizens 20:1 (which partially led to their downfall, of both Sparta and the Ghiscari).

  • Both Ghis and the Greeks invented and heavily rely upon the phalanx shield wall.

  • Yunkai, Mereen, and Astapor are Ghiscari city-states... such as were Athens, Sparta and Thebes.

  • Deep bodied cogs used for transport throughout the Mediterranean/Summer Sea. Cogs are not suitable in rougher waters such as the Atlantic/Sunset sea or North sea/Shivering sea.

  • While once the dominant culture of their region, both were superseded by their younger, more aggressive , neighbors to the west.

  • (Just remember) Tokars = Togas
Valyrians were the Romans of Essos and Westeros

  • The 14 fires - the 7 hills of Rome.

  • Geographically consistent position between the Romans/Greeks vs the Valyrians/Ghiscari.

  • Performed genocide against various tribes during their expansion, little trace of which is left today.

  • Invaded the far wester lands (Westeros/Britannia) toward the end of their centuries of dominating the continent.

  • The repeated, large wars with *Ghis, mirror the Rome's Punic wars against Carthage... The final destruction of Old Ghis especially draws upon Rome's utter destruction of Carthage.

  • Doom of Valyria is a souped-up civilization ending version of Vesuvius vs Pompei and Herculaneum.

  • Following the destruction of Valyria, there was a violent period of war known as the century of blood -- equivalent to the post-Roman dark ages.

  • The Valyrian language fractured into the highly related by distinguishable languages spoken in Bravos, Pentos, Lys, etc. Latin fractured into the Romance languages: Italian, Spanish, French, Portuguese and Romanian.
With all the glowing similarities, I'm half surprised there's no parallel of proto-Valyrian/proto-Romans, Latin wars against the neighboring Samnites, honing and codifying the budding civilization militarily... and setting it up for further conquest. (Old Ghis fills that role though). -- I still haven't thought of a good Roman equivalent to Dragons.

Aegon IV (the Unworthy) - King Henry VIII

  • Post-Valyria/post-Roman King of the westerlands

  • Athletic and well-made in their youth. Physical decline and corpulence with the gluttonous lifestyle of a king.

  • Henry married six times with various mistresses (various progeny) - Aegon had six noble mistresses (& various progeny) and nine (known) overall.

  • Swollen and obese, Aegon could not raise himself from his bed, limbs rotting and crawling with grave worms. - Henry suffered a jousting accident leg wound that doctors could not heal. It ulcerated and festered for years, causing physical inactivity and his degraded physical state and death.

  • Both suffered from the Diabetus.
Dothraki horse-lords are the Essos equivalent to the Mongols + the Hun.

  • Steppe grassland, horse based nomadic culture on the world's largest landmass, Essos/Asia.

  • Brown skin and almond shaped eyes.

  • Warlord culture - Kahl = Kahn.

  • Domesticator of horses.

  • Fight on horseback using light lances and bows. Prolific with a bow.

  • Lack siege equipment to take large cities, but are formidable in the open field... due to their high mobility.

  • Large wealthy cities (with strong walls) such as Qarth/Constantinople buy off the Dothraki/Hun/Mongols rather than face them in battle. PS, Quarth and its high walls is the geographical analog to Constantinople.
Dorne is basically the Spain of Westeros (with a bit of Morocco thrown in)

Geographically, culturally, culinarily, the people in it, etc... it just matches.

The free cities of Essos can be likened to the independent city-states of Italy during the high middle ages.

  • Some of the wealthiest, most populous, and most powerful cities of their age.

  • Ruled by wealthy princes.

  • Bravos is especially likened to Venice, city of canals.

  • The free cities 'mother civilization' was Valyria while the Italian city states mother civilization was the Roman empire.

  • The Valyrian language fractured into the highly related but distinguishable languages spoken in Bravos, Pentos, Lys, etc. Latin fractured into the Romance languages: Italian, Spanish, French, Portuguese and Romanian.
Extras: Game of Thrones is loosely based on the War of the Roses, battle for supremacy between house Lancaster/Lannister and York/Stark.

--The wall was inspired by Hadrian's Wall.

--Valyrian steel has a similar appearance and some of the attributed qualities of Damascus steel.

--Greek fire is Wild fire.

--Greyjoys are caricatures of Viking raiders, (the view of the Vikings as seen from those they targeted)

  • Seafarers, pillaging, thralls, long-ships, etc.
--Red wedding was inspired by the Black Dinner of 1440.

и ова, мапата:

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@Коловрт

Кај ме потсети со клипот погоре, ех колку беше наивен и лош владетел Роб Старк. :([DOUBLEPOST=1428021071][/DOUBLEPOST]
So... much... history! :vozbud::drk::drk::drk:

Зошто мислиш толку јас сакам серијава, историја и убави жени, шо повеќе може човек да посака од тоа? :D
 
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Одлична слика. Многу често се заборава возраста на ликовите и се осудуваат некои нивни потези. Најмногу на Санса, а мислам и за Арја имаше критики, и за Роб секако.
 
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Одлична слика. Многу често се заборава возраста на ликовите и се осудуваат некои нивни потези. Најмногу на Санса, а мислам и за Арја имаше критики, и за Роб секако.
Не е оправдување, Александар III на 15 години град создал.
 
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Не ми се веруваше дека има 39 години кога почнала серијата, јас цело време над 50 ја мислев, ама грешка е и листата, 47 имала во 2011 (ако се точни податоците од Википедиа)
 

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