pa bile nekoi lica od bliskiot istok obvineti za terorizam i zatoa taka izgleda a koj stoi pozadi tie lica???e toa e prasanjeto a se znae deka tie bile plateni za toa da gi urnat avionite vo bliznackite od lugjeto koj gi spomnav vo prethodniot post ima i izjava od eden od Rockfeller semejstvoto koj nekolku meseci pred napadot spomnuva kako ke se sluci nesto i posle ke go napadnat Iraq i Avganistan
9/11 Терористи или сепак не?
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S
smart ass
Гостин
ova e sokazza nemajne doakzi
1 koj ke si
pkinekilmjamunazadioja dezava ke
inaku ha,as e napalesdtoci,lmteresno zasposebaqj soteroria(AR blzwepotine otinee pats oisbtpe scesjeve u dug oeime rage e navoo oto avgan ne cma cna gvorfq
1 koj ke si
pkinekilmjamunazadioja dezava ke
inaku ha,as e napalesdtoci,lmteresno zasposebaqj soteroria(AR blzwepotine otinee pats oisbtpe scesjeve u dug oeime rage e navoo oto avgan ne cma cna gvorfq
S
smart ass
Гостин
ов не ви го кажаа
и ова
сега експлозиви ги срушија или ласер или пак ракрта јас верувам дека е ракета иако нема доказ очигледно авион удриznaci ne e potvrdena na nitu edna od prethodnite zgradi metalna konstrukcija i gubenje strukturalen integritet isto taka prasanje nemase pancace efekt(vidi na 3:16 i 3:17 da go vidis toj pancace effect...kaj 4:24 primeti kolku gas e osloboden!!(a 7micata gorese 9 casa kako mozes da sporedis zgrada koja gorela so demolirana zgrada ETE TOA E NAIVNOST!!!!!!)
kaj 5:13 taa zgrada e od celicna konstrukcija i vidovte kako padna....zosto ne padna za 7 sekundi...zosto drugite ne padnaa za 7 sekundi(Autodesk maya i 3Dmax hahah)
kaj 5:46 gledate kako sami se utnuvaat go vidovte efektot od eksplozija-kako sto rekov od noseckite stolbovi pa nagore kon vrvot(dva oblaka od eksplozivna reakcija SAMO SUMNJAM OTI NEMA ZVUK DA JA CUEME EKSPLOZIJATA AKO GOVORAT VISTINA GO IMAME TOA PRAVO TAKA) i mnoguuu otpad rasfrlan-ne bese taka kaj kulite!!!(zgradata kaj 6:06 ne e za sporedba)
videte go kolapsot na kulite 7:50 7:55...kade e oblakot od gas DOLU??????toa ukazuva deka nemalo eksploziv a gore...pa boingot
isto i kaj 8:11
SAMO KRITICKI OSVRT
koga sme kaj konspirativci videte pa komentirajte
tuka e UAV
a ovde RAKETA
koe e sega vistina...raketa,laseri,eksplozivi bla bla bla
nekoj profitira od ovie teorii...ima narod kupuvaat knigi doniraat pari(a tie odat kaj istite banki vrz koi plukaat konspirativcite....
e sega ocekuvam odgovor na prasanjata boldirani bez videa ke ve molam:smir:
и чисто ме интересира ова баш
кој барал одговори ке ги добие инаку имате порција сирење и ви велат торта е и вие веривате
I don't know where to start: this video is a complete lie.
First off, the video is full of misinformation about Horus. He was baptized? Oh really! I would love to see a source for that!
Most of the supposed parallels are completely untrue!
Actually, Muslim apologists have been trying to do this for centuries--to say that Christianity is really just another form of paganism. But that's a lie.
Most of the information in this video seems to come from Acharya S's book, The Christ Conspiracy (1999), which is a sensationalist book which has zero academic credibility. If you want to learn about Horus you can рead the ancient myths about him--
Egyptian Mythology: Horus
Encyclopedia Mythica: Horus
The Eye Of Horus
Tektonics: Horus, Isis, Osirisr
Let's go over just some of the data:
1. Horus was not born of a Virgin--that's a lie.
2. Horus was not baptized. That's a complete fabrication. "Anup the Baptizer"?--show me where you find that! That's a lie.
3. Horus never walked on water. He performed miracles, but raising the dead and walking on water were not among them. Nor did he cast out demons.
4. Horus had disciples--but you can't show me a single reference to his having twelve. That's a lie.
5. Horus never taught in the temple at age 12. That's a lie. Read the accounts above--it's not there.
6. Where was ever said that was Horus crucified? That's a lie! He died in a later version of the story and was brought back to life--but Jesus' "resurrection" was more than a mere coming back to life. His body was transformed and changed. Anyways, it was only later added to the Horus legend.
That's just off the top of my head. That should give you some indication though about the reliability of this film. In short, its claims are lies that are told to sell books. But no scholar in the world would accept this stuff--only the ignorant. Anybody can get a book published or a video made and say whatever they want. That doesn't make it true.
Moreover, to think that Jesus didn't exist is absolutely, positively unfounded, unhistorical, and unrealistic.
Those who opposed Chrstianity from the very beginning never asserted that Jesus didn't exist--in fact, they made all kinds of slanderous claims against Jesus. But they never asserted he was a myth.
In fact, there's more evidence Jesus existed than virtually any one else in antiquity.
... And there isn't a single respectable scholar today--Christian or secular--who would make such a claim. Only those who haven't studied the issue seriously could say such a thing.
Hope that helps...
***UPDATE***
I just want to add a few things here to address some of the comments made below.
For example, when John Allegro attempted to publish a translation of the Dead Sea Scrolls, fourteen Oxford scholars wrote to the publisher and demanded it be pulled--it was an absolutely inaccurate translation! The book was pulled and the publisher even apologized! A critique was written by John Strugnell, which meticulously revealed in a line-by-line treatment the errors and which was longer than Allegro's book itself! [See "Notes en marge du volume V des 'Discoveries in the Judaean Desert of Jordon'" in Revue de Qumran 7 (1963): 163-76. For more on the debacle see, James VanderKam and Peter Flint, The Meaning of the Dead See Scrolls (San Francisco: HaperCollins, 2002), 381-403.]
The fact is, no scholar takes Allegro's work seriously. You will only see his name mentioned in academic journals such as the Journal for the Historical Jesus (not a particularly conservative journal!) in articles listing the most outrageous examples of poor scholarship.
Of course, you won't find scholars quoting from S's book either.
Again, read the ancient sources themselves and see what they say about Horus--he was not baptized, crucified, etc. It may sell movies and it may appeal to those who already want to dismiss Christianity, but the Jesus-Horus comparison has really no academic value whatsoever
Information of the average person on the Internet is like this. Someone hands you a piece of cheese and calls it cake. One person says it isn't cake and another insults you for it. Then that someone comes up with a well thought out plot as to why he thinks its cake and that words are meaningless. How did we come up with the word cheese instead of cake? Therefore he has all rights to call it cake. One person sees the point and spreads the idea saying how fantastic and wonderful it is. It spreads like wildfire and people are now calling cheese "cake". When in fact it is still a fucking block of cheese.
Now immediately I noticed the problem with Zeitgeist was the fact that the maker of this "documentary" has the religious knowledge of a poodle. He took many religious figures and gave them basic parables to Jesus Christ despite the fact the most of those aren't looked in depth or are just grossly inaccurate.
Take for example Jesus's Birthday. If you have common knowledge you will now that Jesus's birthday was set on December 25th to replace that of Bacchus. Jesus's birthday was not, in fact, on December 25th. Yet, he states throughout the film that his Birthday IS on December 25th. When in fact it says in the Bible that there were "shepherds in the field". This would indicate that Jesus was most likely born during the spring as well all should know that in that period Sheep did not graze in the winter.
Another example is the God Horus. Horus's story is pretty much inaccurate to hell other than the fact that he died and came to life again. You should all know that, in fact, there are many religious figures out there who have died and come back to life. Jesus wasn't the one who started the trend. Horus's story, if you ask any college professor or do...I dunno...basic Internet fact checking is not like he had said. Horus's mother was not a virgin as she had sex with a disembodied penis from Hours's father. He was never crucified. He had followers, but they were never called Disciples nor were there a specific numbers. It never really said he was born on December 25th.
Still you could look for basic rock hard parables to many religious figures, but if you look down at the stories and how detailed and different they are you learn that each one of them are unique in their own way and in others are not alike at all.
The movie rambles on about this while people soak it up like a sponge.
кажав што имав без чарли шин и мислам дека читателите ке пресудат:smir:
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koj be spomnuva zeitgeist ovde...ajde pobij go "Loose Change " i milion drugi dokumentarci
jas stvarno ne znam kako lugeto uste veruvaat deka se ova 20 arapi
9/11 Press For Truth
Official Site: http://www.911pressfortruth.com/
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481
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Loose Change - Final Cut
Official Site: http://www.loosechange911.com/finalcut/
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3719259008768610598
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9/11 - The Ripple Effect
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2008 - Now Or Never
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Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5369007794378970760
ISO torrent: N/A
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The 9/11 Chronicles Part 1 - Truth Rising
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Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6558849874454763730
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Improbable Collapse: The Demolition of our Republic
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9/11 Blueprint For Truth - The Architecture of Destruction
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Fabled Enemies
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9/11 Mysteries Part 1 - Demolitions
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Zero - An Investigation Into 9/11
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Elephant In The Room
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Martial Law 911 - Rise Of The Police State
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Painful deceptions: An Analysis of the 9/11 Attacks
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Terrorstorm
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Open Complicity - Anatomy Of The 9/11 Cover-Up
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Kill The Messenger
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Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime
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Who Killed John O'Neill?
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9/11 Birth Of Treason
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Youtube: (Part 1 of 12)
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9/11 - The Greatest Lie Ever Sold
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Confronting The Evidence - A Call to Re-Open the 9/11 Investigation
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Veracity Videos: http://veracityvideos.com/play.php?vid=212
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9/11: The Explosive Reality
Site: http://www.911blogger.com/node/8951
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5481842742632193840
jas stvarno ne znam kako lugeto uste veruvaat deka se ova 20 arapi
9/11 Press For Truth
Official Site: http://www.911pressfortruth.com/
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481
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Loose Change - Final Cut
Official Site: http://www.loosechange911.com/finalcut/
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3719259008768610598
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9/11 - The Ripple Effect
Official Site: http://www.911rippleeffect.com/
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6847507648836588010
Quote
2008 - Now Or Never
Official Site: http://truthmovement.com/news/2008nowornever/nowornever.html
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5369007794378970760
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Quote
The 9/11 Chronicles Part 1 - Truth Rising
Official Site: http://www.infowars.com/truthrising/
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6558849874454763730
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Improbable Collapse: The Demolition of our Republic
Official Site: http://www.improbablecollapse.com/
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4026073566596731782
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9/11 Blueprint For Truth - The Architecture of Destruction
Official Site: http://www.ae911truth.org/
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8182697765360042032
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Fabled Enemies
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Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2144933190875239407
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9/11 Mysteries Part 1 - Demolitions
Official Site: http://www.911weknow.com/911-mysteries-911topmenu-5
Google Video: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6495001272272468064
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Zero - An Investigation Into 9/11
Official Site: http://zero911movie.com/
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2296490368603788739
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Elephant In The Room
Official Site: http://www.nosmokewithoutfire.co.uk/
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4701757632630708538
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Martial Law 911 - Rise Of The Police State
Click for full-size cover | Click for Disc Print
Official Site: http://martiallaw911.info
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4382151310886411718
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Painful deceptions: An Analysis of the 9/11 Attacks
Official Site: http://www.painfuldeceptions.com
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1336167662031629480
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Terrorstorm
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Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947
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Open Complicity - Anatomy Of The 9/11 Cover-Up
Official Site: Can't find one
Archive.org Video: http://www.archive.org/details/OpenComplicityAnatomyofthe911CoverUp
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Kill The Messenger
Official Site: Can't find one
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6063340745569143497
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Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime
Official Site: Can't find one
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4996997778036416510
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Who Killed John O'Neill?
Official Site: http://www.wkjo.com/
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3857917663523144457
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9/11 Birth Of Treason
Official Site: http://treason.bravenewtheaters.com/
Youtube: (Part 1 of 12)
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9/11 - The Greatest Lie Ever Sold
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Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6952102263921897950
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Confronting The Evidence - A Call to Re-Open the 9/11 Investigation
Official Site: http://www.reopen911.org/
Veracity Videos: http://veracityvideos.com/play.php?vid=212
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9/11: The Explosive Reality
Site: http://www.911blogger.com/node/8951
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5481842742632193840
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Фајрвол, провери си профил и направи тоа што ти реков.
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znam znam ..gi brisam linkovite za torentite..prvo postiram ..pocekaj me malku ..mnogu si brz
ok e sega ??
<во ред е
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Денес е осум годишнина од нападите на американската елита врз лоботомираните овци кои сами плаќаат за да умрат.
Поголем дел од наводните киднапери се уште живи и здрави.
Ирак и Афганистан се кланици.
Кој ќе е следен од оската на злото?
Business as usual...
Поголем дел од наводните киднапери се уште живи и здрави.
Ирак и Афганистан се кланици.
Кој ќе е следен од оската на злото?
Business as usual...
S
smart ass
Гостин
koj be spomnuva zeitgeist ovde...ajde pobij go "Loose Change " i milion drugi dokumentarci
jas stvarno ne znam kako lugeto uste veruvaat deka se ova 20 arapi
9/11 Press For Truth
Official Site: http://www.911pressfortruth.com/
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481
Quote
Loose Change - Final Cut
Official Site: http://www.loosechange911.com/finalcut/
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3719259008768610598
Quote
9/11 - The Ripple Effect
Official Site: http://www.911rippleeffect.com/
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6847507648836588010
Quote
2008 - Now Or Never
Official Site: http://truthmovement.com/news/2008nowornever/nowornever.html
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5369007794378970760
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The 9/11 Chronicles Part 1 - Truth Rising
Official Site: http://www.infowars.com/truthrising/
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6558849874454763730
Quote
Improbable Collapse: The Demolition of our Republic
Official Site: http://www.improbablecollapse.com/
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4026073566596731782
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9/11 Blueprint For Truth - The Architecture of Destruction
Official Site: http://www.ae911truth.org/
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8182697765360042032
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Fabled Enemies
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Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2144933190875239407
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9/11 Mysteries Part 1 - Demolitions
Official Site: http://www.911weknow.com/911-mysteries-911topmenu-5
Google Video: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6495001272272468064
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Zero - An Investigation Into 9/11
Official Site: http://zero911movie.com/
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2296490368603788739
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Elephant In The Room
Official Site: http://www.nosmokewithoutfire.co.uk/
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4701757632630708538
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Martial Law 911 - Rise Of The Police State
Click for full-size cover | Click for Disc Print
Official Site: http://martiallaw911.info
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4382151310886411718
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Painful deceptions: An Analysis of the 9/11 Attacks
Official Site: http://www.painfuldeceptions.com
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1336167662031629480
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Terrorstorm
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Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947
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Open Complicity - Anatomy Of The 9/11 Cover-Up
Official Site: Can't find one
Archive.org Video: http://www.archive.org/details/OpenComplicityAnatomyofthe911CoverUp
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Kill The Messenger
Official Site: Can't find one
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6063340745569143497
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Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime
Official Site: Can't find one
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4996997778036416510
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Who Killed John O'Neill?
Official Site: http://www.wkjo.com/
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3857917663523144457
Quote
9/11 Birth Of Treason
Official Site: http://treason.bravenewtheaters.com/
Youtube: (Part 1 of 12)
Quote
9/11 - The Greatest Lie Ever Sold
Official Site: http://www.preferrednetwork.com/html/anthony_j__hilder.htm
Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6952102263921897950
Quote
Confronting The Evidence - A Call to Re-Open the 9/11 Investigation
Official Site: http://www.reopen911.org/
Veracity Videos: http://veracityvideos.com/play.php?vid=212
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9/11: The Explosive Reality
Site: http://www.911blogger.com/node/8951
Google Video: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5481842742632193840
олично
местото му е во филм и ТВ/
смарт асс постави неколку прашања и доби филмови со помал нујет од шпамските сепак за едничка карактеристика на овие и шпанскиѕе серии лоботомираат со рајата за жал.
поради недобиванјети на одговори пти ги нема јас повеке не учествувам во подфорумов конспраси филмови.
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добро бива ли на километарски пост да се цитира за да се напише една реченица ....
Одговорот на прашањата ќе ги најдеш баш у тие Документарци (не филмови) во кои експерти професори стручњаци во таа област ќе ти образложат ....
Ако те мрзи да погледнеш тоа е друго ...
Ако сакаш да ти пере мозок CNN и тоа е друго ...
само ај доста спам у пм ... за Зајтгест си постирал ... кој кур Зајтгест у темава ...
Одговорот на прашањата ќе ги најдеш баш у тие Документарци (не филмови) во кои експерти професори стручњаци во таа област ќе ти образложат ....
Ако те мрзи да погледнеш тоа е друго ...
Ако сакаш да ти пере мозок CNN и тоа е друго ...
само ај доста спам у пм ... за Зајтгест си постирал ... кој кур Зајтгест у темава ...
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добро бива ли на километарски пост да се цитира за да се напише една реченица ....
Одговорот на прашањата ќе ги најдеш баш у тие Документарци (не филмови) во кои експерти професори стручњаци во таа област ќе ти образложат ....
Ако те мрзи да погледнеш тоа е друго ...
Ако сакаш да ти пере мозок CNN и тоа е друго ...
само ај доста спам у пм ... за Зајтгест си постирал ... кој кур Зајтгест у темава ...
Одговорот на прашањата ќе ги најдеш баш у тие Документарци (не филмови) во кои експерти професори стручњаци во таа област ќе ти образложат ....
Ако те мрзи да погледнеш тоа е друго ...
Ако сакаш да ти пере мозок CNN и тоа е друго ...
само ај доста спам у пм ... за Зајтгест си постирал ... кој кур Зајтгест у темава ...
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Smart ass ..tuka na ovaa tema imam postaveno i desetici knigi (http://forum.kajgana.com/showthread.php?t=39223&page=32) od priznaeni avtori koi ja pobivaat ovaa smesna teorija so Al Qaeda ..znaci ne si ja razgledal celata tema kako sto velis ....ajde, ti si eden od poslednite i retkite so glavata vo pesok :smir:
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За денешниов ден само еден коментар.
Се надевам дека таканаречените горди Американци еден ден ќе сватат (пред да им вградат чипови) дека се пред уништување за владини цели, поради светски кризи и борба со целиот свет како дежурен полицаец, бидејќи нафта снемува и со тоа се зголемува американскиот фашизам и империјализам.
Овој ден 11. Септември е доказ за американсиот и светскиот империјалистички свет настроен кон глобализација на планетата.
Срам за човештвото.
Се надевам дека таканаречените горди Американци еден ден ќе сватат (пред да им вградат чипови) дека се пред уништување за владини цели, поради светски кризи и борба со целиот свет како дежурен полицаец, бидејќи нафта снемува и со тоа се зголемува американскиот фашизам и империјализам.
Овој ден 11. Септември е доказ за американсиот и светскиот империјалистички свет настроен кон глобализација на планетата.
Срам за човештвото.