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Домаќин
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Така кажи дека немаш археолошки аргументи.
Потеклото на Албанците
- Креатор на темата SLaCk
- Време на започнување
Picasso`
Schizophrenic!
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Ако се негира Кадмос, се негира цела античка историја нели?
Пак не ти е јасно, и тоа онаму каде што најчесто се повикуваш ти и истите како тебе.
Илириј, е син на Хармонија ќерка на Зевс кои се Пелазги. Хармонија се м'жи со Кадмос, кој е Феникијец со каква било титула еве ти одреди, сељак, цар, принц, гроф итн... Двата стапуваат во брак и се раѓа Илириј.
Ова поинаку ќе изгледа кога сето тука ќе се трансмутира во нешто друго, т.е. во тоа дека Илирите се микс на Феникијци и на Пелазги. Семитски елементи сепак мора да имале старите народи и денешните исто така... А оние кои немаат, што станува со нив?
П.С. А те молам не ми го постирај Копански, постирај некој што е помалку дискутабилен.
Ги имаш најприфатливите, како Перичич, Батаглија, Круцијани... И некои други...
Не со тие куршуми...
А ќе ти дам и тебе и на другите ултиматум до утре, оти сега ќе бегам да спијам, да ми кажете што албанците понеле со нив од Кафказ или од каде и да дошле.
АРГУМЕНТИРАНО исто како што јас тоа го правам, за да дискутираме.
Со историски податоци доволно е, еве јас се согласив ќе прифатам дека се дојдени од Кафказ. Сега ваше е моето барање да го исполните. Благодарам.
Да, немам.
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ima..ima..albanski postenski marki i paricki od 20 vek so anticki motivi...
i samii na zenite...
i samii na zenite...
Let 3
The Nipple Erector
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Ниту еден антички извор не кажува за никакви Албанци како дел од Илирскиот народ.
Такво нешто не постои.
Се до 19 век не постоеше поим Албанец.
И сега сакаат да докажат дека се Илири оти имале слични капи и дека ете 2000 години се криела по пештери и од инает не сакале никој да знае и запиши дека се тука.
Остај то што јазикот им е од друга група на народи со илирскиот остај то што нигде не постоеле Абанци илири, остај то што Албанци не постојат до 19 век... најбитно е што имаат кеќиња кои се слични на некои слики како демек изгледале илирски капи (кизнај и тоа кој го измислил)
Такво нешто не постои.
Се до 19 век не постоеше поим Албанец.
И сега сакаат да докажат дека се Илири оти имале слични капи и дека ете 2000 години се криела по пештери и од инает не сакале никој да знае и запиши дека се тука.
Остај то што јазикот им е од друга група на народи со илирскиот остај то што нигде не постоеле Абанци илири, остај то што Албанци не постојат до 19 век... најбитно е што имаат кеќиња кои се слични на некои слики како демек изгледале илирски капи (кизнај и тоа кој го измислил)
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pa ti si bil bre vo nokdaun....
sto e sega?
bile Zombi,pa naednas nokno vreme se pojavile vo ~17 vek?
a meckite togash kade spiele?
p.s....
nekoi Shqipci-Gegi-Mirditi izgleda imaat poteklo i od Apla Crnci....:kesa:
aj da vidime picikato sto ke kaze na ova....
p.s.Apla ne znaci belo....
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Sega prema tebe , to sto go dokazuvaat Istoricarite i Lingvistite od cel svet , prema tebe padza sve u voda ..
Ako ima inaet vo nekoja rasprava kako sto e ova , togas sve e dzabe da sa diskutira .
Nie Albancite ne sme imale Lingvisti ni Arheolozi vo 16.17 vek koga pocnaa da pisuvaat za nas , nego strancite , ili ne e taka ?
Postojano go vrzuvas toa istoto prashanje , "vo antickiot vek ne pisuvale za Albancite ", A dali pisuva za Ilirite ?
Albancite se direktni potomci na Ilirite , vo sekoja svetska stranica vo svetot go citas istoto ..
Ili Picasso vi postese argumenti za toa , ili vodeme samo inat , ne gleam druga pricina tuka ..
Ti preporacuvam da ja citas knigata "ILIRUCUM SACRUM" za koe treablo da se raboti 125 godini dodeka bila zavrsena , ima okolu 5500 stranici , pisuva i za ova drzava , autorot pocnal so pisuvanje od 17 vek , se zavrsilo vo 1905 godina http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Illyricum_Sacrum_auctore_Danielo_Farlato.jpg
autori “Illyricum Sacrum”
1751 Venedik Vëllimi I Autor Daniele Farlati
1753 Venedik Vëllimi II Autor Daniele Farlati
1765 Venedik Vëllimi III Autor Daniele Farlati
1769 Venedik Vëllimi IV Autor Daniele Farlati
1775 Venedik Vëllimi V Autor Daniele Farlati
1800 Venedik Vëllimi VI Autor Daniele Farlati
1817 Venedik Vëllimii VII Autor Daniele Farlati
1819 Venedik Vëllimi VIII Autor Jacobo Koleti
1909 Split Vëllimi IX Autor Jacobo Koleti.
Tuka gi dobivate najdobrite odgovori na vasite prashanja .
Nie najmalku pisuvame za toa deka sme ILIRI sprema strancite ..
Sega prema tebe , to sto go dokazuvaat Istoricarite i Lingvistite od cel svet , prema tebe padza sve u voda ..
Ako ima inaet vo nekoja rasprava kako sto e ova , togas sve e dzabe da sa diskutira .
Nie Albancite ne sme imale Lingvisti ni Arheolozi vo 16.17 vek koga pocnaa da pisuvaat za nas , nego strancite , ili ne e taka ?
Postojano go vrzuvas toa istoto prashanje , "vo antickiot vek ne pisuvale za Albancite ", A dali pisuva za Ilirite ?
Albancite se direktni potomci na Ilirite , vo sekoja svetska stranica vo svetot go citas istoto ..
Ili Picasso vi postese argumenti za toa , ili vodeme samo inat , ne gleam druga pricina tuka ..
Ti preporacuvam da ja citas knigata "ILIRUCUM SACRUM" za koe treablo da se raboti 125 godini dodeka bila zavrsena , ima okolu 5500 stranici , pisuva i za ova drzava , autorot pocnal so pisuvanje od 17 vek , se zavrsilo vo 1905 godina http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Illyricum_Sacrum_auctore_Danielo_Farlato.jpg
autori “Illyricum Sacrum”
1751 Venedik Vëllimi I Autor Daniele Farlati
1753 Venedik Vëllimi II Autor Daniele Farlati
1765 Venedik Vëllimi III Autor Daniele Farlati
1769 Venedik Vëllimi IV Autor Daniele Farlati
1775 Venedik Vëllimi V Autor Daniele Farlati
1800 Venedik Vëllimi VI Autor Daniele Farlati
1817 Venedik Vëllimii VII Autor Daniele Farlati
1819 Venedik Vëllimi VIII Autor Jacobo Koleti
1909 Split Vëllimi IX Autor Jacobo Koleti.
Tuka gi dobivate najdobrite odgovori na vasite prashanja .
Let 3
The Nipple Erector
- Член од
- 13 јули 2008
- Мислења
- 30.896
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- 31.278
Албанци не се споменуваат во ни едни описи на илирскиот народ. За илирите пишувале и сатрите Грци и старите Римјани. Споменале секакви разни племиња и народи кои припаѓале на Илирскиот народ нои нема нигде никакви Албанци
Денешниот Албански јазик и Илирскиот се јазици од РАЗЛИЧНИ ГРУПИ НА НАРОДИ. Едниот е Катем другиот Сатем. Ова го докажаа и Андре Мартине лингвист и професор на Сорбона и Колумбија универзитет, а со тоа се сложи и албанскиот професор Шабан Демиреј.
Значи ем никој нигде никогаш во антиката а ни во среден век не споменал никакви Албанци како староседелци или дел од Илирски народ овде, нит јазикот на Албанците му припаѓа на истата група на јазици со илирскиот, нит топономијата му е онаа која би ја имале да беа наследници на илири. Значи врска на Албанци - Илири не постои.
Денешниот Албански јазик и Илирскиот се јазици од РАЗЛИЧНИ ГРУПИ НА НАРОДИ. Едниот е Катем другиот Сатем. Ова го докажаа и Андре Мартине лингвист и професор на Сорбона и Колумбија универзитет, а со тоа се сложи и албанскиот професор Шабан Демиреј.
Значи ем никој нигде никогаш во антиката а ни во среден век не споменал никакви Албанци како староседелци или дел од Илирски народ овде, нит јазикот на Албанците му припаѓа на истата група на јазици со илирскиот, нит топономијата му е онаа која би ја имале да беа наследници на илири. Значи врска на Албанци - Илири не постои.
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Black ULCINJ
The first black arrived in Ulcinj possible with Turkish-Arabic mariners for centuries, pirates-pirates as slaves and servants in their boats in 1571. year, and as slaves and servants in their families, after the Turkish occupation of the city, when the permanent housing for 400 berberskih, North African pirates and their families.
These new citizens of Ulcinj, the Turkish-Arab mariners for centuries, through the decades and centuries, the grabber from the coast of Africa (Tripoli - Tarabulus) black and sold them as slaves to the square in Ulcinj and other markets of Europe, Asia and Africa. Many of them are kept as servants and their homes, properties, and by ships. Time, they have to learn and our Montenegrin Ulcinj pomorca Muslim faith.
Many slaves were bought in the bescenje in the street of Tripoli, and the slave preprodavali the square in Ulcinj, realizirajuci so your earnings. Preferisali are small children from 3-4 years old and black. For the purchase of slave-black went with their boats and the coast of Sudan, and to the Congo. From the documents we learn that the trade deal with black Ulcinjanin pilgrim Halil Ficic and its relative Jakup Ficic, and Bećir Jusuf, Alija Basa and drigi Ulcinjani.
Age Ulcinj watched their prestige, reputation and authority, and the number of black slave that they had in the property. As much slave to the rules more important and powerful.
On 20 May 1696 pontifical missionary Marin Djino inform Kongregaciju to Ulcinj in the street are about 125 slave, women and children. The greater part of the partially ispracen for north Africa, and partly to Istanbul.
Slave square in Ulcinj was the largest and najglasovitiji in the Adriatic. There are slaves brought for sale from all over the Balkans, especially the coastal cities. Say that the sell and Servantesa with his brother Rodrigo. From the documents we learn that it was sold to us and future bishop - Perastanin Joseph Burovic.
Albanian historians, since pretendiraju that this trade make their Albanians, over all - as pretendiraju that all the inhabitants of Ulcinj were their Albanians, in all possible ways romantiziraju and try to alleviate this inhumane attitude Ulcinjana. So Hadzibrahimi says that slaves were treated Ulcinjani:
As members of their families, as free people, and not as slaves. Bondswoman are increased as the Daughters houses and are married to them, and regularly giving prciju-cejzu the same as their kcerkava ... Robovlasnici them are made cifluke your surname and enabled them to create their families. "1)
Sure that this is not true. To these Ulcinjani so good with the slaves, would not cefali Montenegrin oslodioce city to be black to freedom. They are not free or balti, and let alone black. Resulbegovici Ulcinj are kept in captivity, and their relatives, said Joseph Burovica, which - in order to save his head - would be forced to convert and Muslims. And when it oslobodise, the rules are as they fled, because the environment was so fanaticno and antihriscanski nastrojena that other Burovica, count and captain Perast Grgura Burovica, Muck zaklali in Ulcinj for ucjenu by him raspisala Republic of Venice .
During the Turkish occupation of Ulcinj the black did not have any rights. Even elementary human rights. They were only protect their owners. While these owners have carried out over them all the violence. They were used not only as servants, for the most difficult tasks and najprljavije in their homes and properties, but they were certainly and zloupotrebljavali, raped their daughter and women, and iskaljivali and each of them their anger. Black is not even dare to look belkinju, while Balti vanbračne and create children with a Negress.
Rape Negress in Ulcinj was the most thing, which is clearly visible by their skin MODIFIED children born outside marriage and in marriage. It is the case that that most of you took Ulcinjanin Negress and wife. So say that the Negress Zahra, originally from Sudan, came to volunteer in Ulcinj and married for Ulcinjanina, major Turkish military pilgrim Halil Ficic.
But we do not have any cases that Ulcinjanin gave his daughter to wife black. The first is that done was a Serb from Serbia, which after the DSR allow your daughter to be married to black Rizo Surla.
Ulcinj oslobodjenja from Turkish slavery oslobodjen and the black slavery and declared equal citizens of Montenegro. Then some of them became captains and ships.
Year 1880., When the final free city from Turkish slavery and prisajedinio home in Montenegro, is found in Ulcinj 100 crnackih house, family. All brought as slaves and treated as such, or born there.
In those years, not mireci with Montenegrin law, and exemptions, and black, some are left Ulcinjani Ulcinj and move in Skadar. Poveli are with you and your black. So Beto guelder rose 8 you connect to the black, while Mehmet Beci take with you 5 black. Also, many other Turkish and Albanian families, if not that our - Muslim.
PINJES on the hill above the Ulcinj, is the field, called the Arabian. That met these black and played their game ritual. Associated with these games was temperamentna game "Saraveli" typical African melosa and rhythm, which is now happy to play and watch.
At that time they had to support their special cafés, called "Trumo - pub", and "Arab pub, because they are the owner and the service were the Arabs, as black as our Ulcinjani.
Of course, that this was their apparent equality. Only after the DSR when in Ulcinj establish national authorities, these will be black, and there are also lili blood for the government, really feel equal. So the black Rizo Surla marry Srpkinja, which has children.
Srbo-Montenegrins are the black, in token of their gratitude for the bride, which they gave for Riza, given away a beautiful anecdote.
When it is a matter of Rizu and anecdotes, here and here to nevedem it:
In one fight Partisan units, among many Montenegrins, early black and Rizo Surla from Ulcinj. Brought him immediately in the partisan hospital and gave him first aid. Jovanka, wife Josipa Broza Tita, went to walk the wounded and the hospital, and when you see Riza, is surprised.
-Where are you, socialize casualty - she asked him.
-From Ulcinj - he said this.
-Where is the Ulcinj, in which African country - said Jovanka again.
-Not in Africa, Jovanka friends! Ulcinj in Montenegro - said her Rizo.
Jovanka the concept for a moment, and again said:
-And you ethnicity?
-Crnogorac - Rizo said it proudly.
-Hm - again the concept of Jovanka, and he - I did not know that they are Montenegrins black! I thought that the balti, thus, as we have!
Ukrstavanjem Negress with Balti and belkinja with black created in Ulcinj from the time and half-caste categories.
These are black prozivali the surname of their respective owners. And because they are owners of the Muslims, make sure they are prihvacali Muslim faith. With this faith podlozeni they albaniziranju, as a general and all other Muslims. Incredible, but the truth is today we have a Negro who call themselves Albanians. However, most of them aware of their African origin, called the Africans, however that the Albanians will not to hear it. For them, black and Ulcinj Albanians.
1) HAXHIBRAHIMI, prof. Maksut: DETARIA E ULQINIT NLPLR SHEKUJ, Ulcinj 1994. pp. 113-115.
By: Prof. dr. Dr. Kaplan BUROVIC, Scholar
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hmmm.....
The first black arrived in Ulcinj possible with Turkish-Arabic mariners for centuries, pirates-pirates as slaves and servants in their boats in 1571. year, and as slaves and servants in their families, after the Turkish occupation of the city, when the permanent housing for 400 berberskih, North African pirates and their families.
These new citizens of Ulcinj, the Turkish-Arab mariners for centuries, through the decades and centuries, the grabber from the coast of Africa (Tripoli - Tarabulus) black and sold them as slaves to the square in Ulcinj and other markets of Europe, Asia and Africa. Many of them are kept as servants and their homes, properties, and by ships. Time, they have to learn and our Montenegrin Ulcinj pomorca Muslim faith.
Many slaves were bought in the bescenje in the street of Tripoli, and the slave preprodavali the square in Ulcinj, realizirajuci so your earnings. Preferisali are small children from 3-4 years old and black. For the purchase of slave-black went with their boats and the coast of Sudan, and to the Congo. From the documents we learn that the trade deal with black Ulcinjanin pilgrim Halil Ficic and its relative Jakup Ficic, and Bećir Jusuf, Alija Basa and drigi Ulcinjani.
Age Ulcinj watched their prestige, reputation and authority, and the number of black slave that they had in the property. As much slave to the rules more important and powerful.
On 20 May 1696 pontifical missionary Marin Djino inform Kongregaciju to Ulcinj in the street are about 125 slave, women and children. The greater part of the partially ispracen for north Africa, and partly to Istanbul.
Slave square in Ulcinj was the largest and najglasovitiji in the Adriatic. There are slaves brought for sale from all over the Balkans, especially the coastal cities. Say that the sell and Servantesa with his brother Rodrigo. From the documents we learn that it was sold to us and future bishop - Perastanin Joseph Burovic.
Albanian historians, since pretendiraju that this trade make their Albanians, over all - as pretendiraju that all the inhabitants of Ulcinj were their Albanians, in all possible ways romantiziraju and try to alleviate this inhumane attitude Ulcinjana. So Hadzibrahimi says that slaves were treated Ulcinjani:
As members of their families, as free people, and not as slaves. Bondswoman are increased as the Daughters houses and are married to them, and regularly giving prciju-cejzu the same as their kcerkava ... Robovlasnici them are made cifluke your surname and enabled them to create their families. "1)
Sure that this is not true. To these Ulcinjani so good with the slaves, would not cefali Montenegrin oslodioce city to be black to freedom. They are not free or balti, and let alone black. Resulbegovici Ulcinj are kept in captivity, and their relatives, said Joseph Burovica, which - in order to save his head - would be forced to convert and Muslims. And when it oslobodise, the rules are as they fled, because the environment was so fanaticno and antihriscanski nastrojena that other Burovica, count and captain Perast Grgura Burovica, Muck zaklali in Ulcinj for ucjenu by him raspisala Republic of Venice .
During the Turkish occupation of Ulcinj the black did not have any rights. Even elementary human rights. They were only protect their owners. While these owners have carried out over them all the violence. They were used not only as servants, for the most difficult tasks and najprljavije in their homes and properties, but they were certainly and zloupotrebljavali, raped their daughter and women, and iskaljivali and each of them their anger. Black is not even dare to look belkinju, while Balti vanbračne and create children with a Negress.
Rape Negress in Ulcinj was the most thing, which is clearly visible by their skin MODIFIED children born outside marriage and in marriage. It is the case that that most of you took Ulcinjanin Negress and wife. So say that the Negress Zahra, originally from Sudan, came to volunteer in Ulcinj and married for Ulcinjanina, major Turkish military pilgrim Halil Ficic.
But we do not have any cases that Ulcinjanin gave his daughter to wife black. The first is that done was a Serb from Serbia, which after the DSR allow your daughter to be married to black Rizo Surla.
Ulcinj oslobodjenja from Turkish slavery oslobodjen and the black slavery and declared equal citizens of Montenegro. Then some of them became captains and ships.
Year 1880., When the final free city from Turkish slavery and prisajedinio home in Montenegro, is found in Ulcinj 100 crnackih house, family. All brought as slaves and treated as such, or born there.
In those years, not mireci with Montenegrin law, and exemptions, and black, some are left Ulcinjani Ulcinj and move in Skadar. Poveli are with you and your black. So Beto guelder rose 8 you connect to the black, while Mehmet Beci take with you 5 black. Also, many other Turkish and Albanian families, if not that our - Muslim.
PINJES on the hill above the Ulcinj, is the field, called the Arabian. That met these black and played their game ritual. Associated with these games was temperamentna game "Saraveli" typical African melosa and rhythm, which is now happy to play and watch.
At that time they had to support their special cafés, called "Trumo - pub", and "Arab pub, because they are the owner and the service were the Arabs, as black as our Ulcinjani.
Of course, that this was their apparent equality. Only after the DSR when in Ulcinj establish national authorities, these will be black, and there are also lili blood for the government, really feel equal. So the black Rizo Surla marry Srpkinja, which has children.
Srbo-Montenegrins are the black, in token of their gratitude for the bride, which they gave for Riza, given away a beautiful anecdote.
When it is a matter of Rizu and anecdotes, here and here to nevedem it:
In one fight Partisan units, among many Montenegrins, early black and Rizo Surla from Ulcinj. Brought him immediately in the partisan hospital and gave him first aid. Jovanka, wife Josipa Broza Tita, went to walk the wounded and the hospital, and when you see Riza, is surprised.
-Where are you, socialize casualty - she asked him.
-From Ulcinj - he said this.
-Where is the Ulcinj, in which African country - said Jovanka again.
-Not in Africa, Jovanka friends! Ulcinj in Montenegro - said her Rizo.
Jovanka the concept for a moment, and again said:
-And you ethnicity?
-Crnogorac - Rizo said it proudly.
-Hm - again the concept of Jovanka, and he - I did not know that they are Montenegrins black! I thought that the balti, thus, as we have!
Ukrstavanjem Negress with Balti and belkinja with black created in Ulcinj from the time and half-caste categories.
These are black prozivali the surname of their respective owners. And because they are owners of the Muslims, make sure they are prihvacali Muslim faith. With this faith podlozeni they albaniziranju, as a general and all other Muslims. Incredible, but the truth is today we have a Negro who call themselves Albanians. However, most of them aware of their African origin, called the Africans, however that the Albanians will not to hear it. For them, black and Ulcinj Albanians.
1) HAXHIBRAHIMI, prof. Maksut: DETARIA E ULQINIT NLPLR SHEKUJ, Ulcinj 1994. pp. 113-115.
By: Prof. dr. Dr. Kaplan BUROVIC, Scholar
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hmmm.....
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Kurdskoto poteklo na nekoj Shqipci.
The J2b2 subclade is also present in Anatolia, specifically in the southern and eastern regions, which have been proposed as a source of J haplogroups for many regions.
An interesting peak of the J2b2 subclade has been detected in Kosovar Albanians (~17%), whereas the J2b2 levels range from 1 to 4% in the Balkans overall.
shqip
Kosovo=17%
Albanija=14.5%
Makedonija=14.1%
Shqipot e genetski dosta homogen (dava skoro isti procenti i no Mk,Albanija i Kosovo) i vo sporedba so drugite balkanski i istocno-evropski narodi,moze da se vidi kolku od denesniot shqip e vsusnost poalbanceno domicilno naselenie.
Bidejki ovoj gen go ima i vo Indija i toa "poprilicno", shqipot nemoze da se brani deka e domicilen.
Pricini: poradi jazikot,arheologijata,istorijata,obicaite i t.n.
The J2b2 subclade is also present in Anatolia, specifically in the southern and eastern regions, which have been proposed as a source of J haplogroups for many regions.
An interesting peak of the J2b2 subclade has been detected in Kosovar Albanians (~17%), whereas the J2b2 levels range from 1 to 4% in the Balkans overall.
shqip
Kosovo=17%
Albanija=14.5%
Makedonija=14.1%
Shqipot e genetski dosta homogen (dava skoro isti procenti i no Mk,Albanija i Kosovo) i vo sporedba so drugite balkanski i istocno-evropski narodi,moze da se vidi kolku od denesniot shqip e vsusnost poalbanceno domicilno naselenie.
Bidejki ovoj gen go ima i vo Indija i toa "poprilicno", shqipot nemoze da se brani deka e domicilen.
Pricini: poradi jazikot,arheologijata,istorijata,obicaite i t.n.
Picasso`
Schizophrenic!
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Ај мајк'н, така караат некои шќипци, ама ти ептен не разбираш, прост, слеп, глуп, ќор, нем... Кој ти е проблемот бре !?
Кажи што понеле со нив.
Ја ти ги кажав античките етнолошки елементи. Кече, фустанела, бечви, песни, инструменти, верувања...
Твое е сега да кажеш ти. Кажи!
И немој со Каплан, да му ебам жената в'уста... Дај нешто јако, пошо уште не си ме разубедил... Еве јас прифатив дека дошле од Кафказ, е сега треба да носат од таму нешто...А ТОА Е... ?
Кажи што понеле со нив.
Ја ти ги кажав античките етнолошки елементи. Кече, фустанела, бечви, песни, инструменти, верувања...
Твое е сега да кажеш ти. Кажи!
И немој со Каплан, да му ебам жената в'уста... Дај нешто јако, пошо уште не си ме разубедил... Еве јас прифатив дека дошле од Кафказ, е сега треба да носат од таму нешто...А ТОА Е... ?
Уште бе ти со овај ум суштествуваш тука? :pusk:
Let 3
The Nipple Erector
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Jaс барем имам ум... ти имаш заштота од закон.. знаеш оние загрозени видови.. 20%... пастрмките, бувовите, лешинарите...
A
anaveno
Гостин
ne e jako,od Wikiserija e....
ama CRNCITE SI NAPISALE...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people
proveri si okolinata....
onoj Rizo Surla....
Rizo..isti iminja,a?
Picasso`
Schizophrenic!
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Кој имаше проблем? Имал проблем некој да го докаже она што не може да се докаже. Некој со сила сака да се пика онаму каде што не го бери.
Никој немал тешкотии да покаже и докаже кој биле и Шкендо и Мајка Тереза. Тешкотиите се создаваат коа некој сака да докаже дека тие се нешто друго, т.е. Македонци, Срби, Власи, Бугари, Грци итн.
Оти ова...
Е консеквенца на ова...
Оти и вака се тера континуирано на пример...
In the Greek mythology is the king of the gods, the ruler of Mount Olympus, and the god of the sky and thunder. His symbols are the thunderbolt, eagle, and the oak. In addition to his Indo-European inheritance, the classical “cloud-gatherer”
Epirus this is the name given to Albania by the Latins, we call it Arberia(tosk) or Arbenia(gheg).
We started calling ourselves Shqipetare around 14-15 century but this is not a new name by no means, because this is Shqipe(eagle) symbol of Zeus our powerful and generous GOD.
Zeus-Ammon right AFY-TAI, eagle
APEIRWTWN, eagle (Epiriotic eagle)
These very old symbols are what we are carring in our Epirotic-Pelasgic flag:
Lighting weapon of Zeus similar to a eagle(Some people think this is Labrys or Pelekus)
Look at the shape similarity betwen the eagle and the Zeus' weapon:
and this is Zeus 'symbol in another coin:
The question is why does Albanian flag have two eagles instead of one. Because Zeus had two eagle, one traveling on the east and the other on the west, symbolizing the extension of Zeus power in both western, eastern cultures
Ова како капата Ќелеше-Пилеус да е а?
The two eagles of Zeus (Zen & Zen in Araucanic), standing on both sides of the Omphalos @ central point of the Globe.
This Roman eagle (Romans was a race-culture not very different from the """Greeks""" & they had the same God/s in their worship ) doesnt not symbolise the mighty Roman Empire but just shows a Jupiter's symbol(Zeus):
The Apeirote Republic AR Drachm. 238-168 BC. Head of Zeus Dodonaios right, monogram behind / APEIRWTAN, eagle standing right on thunderbolt, all within oak wreath.
This is the reason why we call our land SHQIPERI: the land of Eagle, a symbol-name coming from very ancient times , we just revitalised our ancient name along with ARBERI.
Principality of Albania (1913-1914)
Princess's flag
Понекогаш интернетот е лош, оти вакви работи се дозволуваат да се објават...
Along with Zeus we always find his symbol the eagle:
putting in the right way the double-eagle which we find today as the double-headed eagle on the Albanian flag. That was the symbol of the Pelasgians. Lycaion son of Pelasgus built a temple dedicated to Zeus, in Arcadia where the Mount Lycaion is located:
Albanians the real Pelasgians descendents never forgot about their beloved God, their ancient symbols and their meanings.
Никој немал тешкотии да покаже и докаже кој биле и Шкендо и Мајка Тереза. Тешкотиите се создаваат коа некој сака да докаже дека тие се нешто друго, т.е. Македонци, Срби, Власи, Бугари, Грци итн.
Оти ова...
Е консеквенца на ова...
Оти и вака се тера континуирано на пример...
In the Greek mythology is the king of the gods, the ruler of Mount Olympus, and the god of the sky and thunder. His symbols are the thunderbolt, eagle, and the oak. In addition to his Indo-European inheritance, the classical “cloud-gatherer”
Epirus this is the name given to Albania by the Latins, we call it Arberia(tosk) or Arbenia(gheg).
We started calling ourselves Shqipetare around 14-15 century but this is not a new name by no means, because this is Shqipe(eagle) symbol of Zeus our powerful and generous GOD.
Zeus-Ammon right AFY-TAI, eagle
APEIRWTWN, eagle (Epiriotic eagle)
These very old symbols are what we are carring in our Epirotic-Pelasgic flag:
Lighting weapon of Zeus similar to a eagle(Some people think this is Labrys or Pelekus)
Look at the shape similarity betwen the eagle and the Zeus' weapon:
and this is Zeus 'symbol in another coin:
The question is why does Albanian flag have two eagles instead of one. Because Zeus had two eagle, one traveling on the east and the other on the west, symbolizing the extension of Zeus power in both western, eastern cultures
Ова како капата Ќелеше-Пилеус да е а?
The two eagles of Zeus (Zen & Zen in Araucanic), standing on both sides of the Omphalos @ central point of the Globe.
This Roman eagle (Romans was a race-culture not very different from the """Greeks""" & they had the same God/s in their worship ) doesnt not symbolise the mighty Roman Empire but just shows a Jupiter's symbol(Zeus):
The Apeirote Republic AR Drachm. 238-168 BC. Head of Zeus Dodonaios right, monogram behind / APEIRWTAN, eagle standing right on thunderbolt, all within oak wreath.
This is the reason why we call our land SHQIPERI: the land of Eagle, a symbol-name coming from very ancient times , we just revitalised our ancient name along with ARBERI.
Principality of Albania (1913-1914)
Princess's flag
Понекогаш интернетот е лош, оти вакви работи се дозволуваат да се објават...
Along with Zeus we always find his symbol the eagle:
putting in the right way the double-eagle which we find today as the double-headed eagle on the Albanian flag. That was the symbol of the Pelasgians. Lycaion son of Pelasgus built a temple dedicated to Zeus, in Arcadia where the Mount Lycaion is located:
Albanians the real Pelasgians descendents never forgot about their beloved God, their ancient symbols and their meanings.
Let 3
The Nipple Erector
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Да, ве сфаќаме, требаше прво да се смени името од ЈОВАН Кастриот во ЈАН, па ко видовте дека не е доволно Албанско, го сменавте во ЃОН, а синот му ЃУРАЃ го сменавте во ЃЕРЃ.
А занимливо дека тој ЃЕРЃ (Ѓураѓ) имаше брат РЕПОШ кој бил калуѓер во православен манастир на Хилендар (ваљда албански православен манастир на Хиландар)
А мајка му ВОЈИСЛАВА ја прекрсивте во ВОЈС.
Стварно тешко докажавте дека е Албанец.