Случајот Герт Вајлдерс

[Joey-Jojo Jr. Shabadoo]

Море мисирче , гледај теве те поместија у плоштад Пела , и остај ги муслиманите во Холандија , гледај си го својот дом , имаш минимум 35% муслимани.

И шо викаш? Шо е твојот лек? Да ги вратиме у пустиња?

 

[Macedonia>>Europe]

И шо викаш? Шо е твојот лек? Да ги вратиме у пустиња?

Јас им предлагам пошто многу ја сакаат швицарска по нивен терк да им ги скратиме ракетите на џамиите.

 

[Human]

Колку и да не сакам да речам, ама вистината е дека за некои работи е во право Герт. Ѓубрето од Африка и Блиски исток мора да се ичисти од Европа.

--- надополнето ---

Јас им предлагам пошто многу ја сакаат швицарска по нивен терк да им ги скратиме ракетите на џамиите.

Да се отстрани боевата глава а? :pos2:

 

[Misirkov]

Завршната реч на Вајлдерс на крајот на судскиот процес:

http://www.hudson-ny.org/2165/geert-wilders-trial-remarks

Final remarks by Geert Wilders at his trial

June 1, 2011

Mister President, members of the Court,

I am here because of what I have said. I am here for having spoken. I have spoken, I speak and I shall continue to speak. Many have kept silent, but not Pim Fortuyn, not Theo Van Gogh, and not me.

I am obliged to speak. For the Netherlands is under threat of Islam. As I have argued many times, Islam is chiefly an ideology. An ideology of hatred, of destruction, of conquest. It is my strong conviction that Islam is a threat to Western values, to freedom of speech, to the equality of men and women, of heterosexuals and homosexuals, of believers and unbelievers.

All over the world we can see how freedom is fleeing from Islam. Day by day we see our freedoms dwindle.

Islam is opposed to freedom. Renowned scholars of Islam from all parts of the world agree on this. My witness experts subscribe to my view. There are more Islam scholars whom the court did not allow me to call on to testify. All agree with my statements, they show that I speak the truth. That truth is on trial today.

We must live in the truth, said the dissidents under Communist rule, because the truth will set us free. Truth and freedom are inextricably connected. We must speak the truth because otherwise we shall lose our freedom.

That is why I have spoken, why I speak and why I shall continue to speak.

The statements for which I am being tried are statements which I made in my function as a politician participating in the public debate in our society. My statements were not aimed at individuals, but at Islam and the process of Islamization. That is why the Public Prosecutor has concluded that I should be acquitted.

Mister President, members of the Court,

I am acting within a long tradition which I wish to honor. I am risking my life in defence of freedom in the Netherlands. Of all our achievements, freedom is the most precious and the most vulnerable. Many have given their lives for freedom. We have been reminded of that in the commemorations of the month of May. But the struggle for freedom is much older.

Every day the armored cars drive me past the statue of Johan de Witt at the Hofvijver in The Hague. De Witt wrote the "Manifesto of True Freedom" and he paid for freedom with his life. Every day I go to my office through the Binnenhof where Johan van Oldenbarneveldt was beheaded after a political trial. Leaning on his stick the elderly Oldenbarneveldt addressed his last words to his people. He said: "I have acted honorably and piously as a good patriot." Those words are also mine.

I do not wish to betray the trust of the 1.5 million voters of my party. I do not wish to betray my country. Inspired by Johan van Oldenbarneveldt and Johan de Witt, I wish to be a politician who serves the truth end hence defends the freedom of the Dutch provinces and of the Dutch people. I wish to be honest, I wish to act with honesty and that is why I wish to protect my native land against Islam. Silence is treason.

That is why I have spoken, why I speak and why I shall continue to speak.

Freedom and truth. I pay the price every day. Day and night I have to be protected against people who want to kill me. I am not complaining about it; it has been my own decision to speak. However, those who threaten me and other critics of Islam are not being tried here today. I am being tried. And about that I do complain.

I consider this trial to be a political trial. The values of D66 [a Dutch leftist liberal party] and NRC Handelsblad [a Dutch leftist liberal party] will never be brought before a judge in this country. One of the complainants clearly indicated that his intentions are political. Even questions I have asked in parliament and cooperation with the SGP are being brought as allegations against me by Mr Rabbae of GroenLinks [the leftist Dutch Green Party]. Those on the Left like to tamper with the separation of powers. When they cannot win politically because the Dutch people have discerned their sinister agenda, they try to win through the courts.

Whatever your verdict may be, that is the bitter conclusion of this trial.

This trial is also surrealistic. I am being compared with the Hutu murderers in Rwanda and with Mladic. Only a few minutes ago some here have doubted my mental health. I have been called a new Hitler. I wonder whether those who call me such names will also be sued, and if not, whether the Court will also order prosecution. Probably not. And that is just as well. Because freedom of speech applies also to my opponents.

My right to a fair trial has been violated. The order of the Amsterdam Court to prosecute me was not just a decision but a condemning verdict by judges who condemned me even before the actual trial had begun.

Mister President, members of the Court, you must now decide whether freedom still has a home in the Netherlands

Franz Kafka said: "One sees the sun slowly set, yet one is surprised when it suddenly becomes dark."

Mister President, members of the Court, do not let the lights go out in the Netherlands.

Acquit me: Put an end to this Kafkaesque situation.

Acquit me. Political freedom requires that citizens and their elected representatives are allowed to voice opinions that are held in society.

Acquit me, for if I am convicted, you convict the freedom of opinion and expression of millions of Dutchmen.

Acquit me. I do not incite to hatred. I do not incite to discrimination. But I defend the character, the identity, the culture and the freedom of the Netherlands. That is the truth. That is why I am here. That is why I speak. That is why, like Luther before the Imperial Diet at Worms, I say: "Here I stand, I can do no other."

That is why I have spoken, why I speak and why I shall continue to speak.

Mister President, members of the Court, though I stand here alone, my voice is the voice of many. This trial is not about me. It is about something much greater. Freedom of expression is the life source of our Western civilisation.

Do not let that source go dry just to cosy up to a totalitarian ideology. "Freedom," said the American President Dwight Eisenhower, "has its life in the hearts, the actions, the spirit of men and so it must be daily earned and refreshed – else like a flower cut from its life-giving roots, it will wither and die."

Mister President, members of the Court, you have a great responsibility. Do not cut freedom in the Netherlands from its roots, our freedom of expression. Acquit me. Choose freedom.

I have spoken, I speak, and it is my duty – I cannot do otherwise – to continue to speak.

Thank you.

 

[Hawk2401]

Dutch MP acquitted in 'hate' trial



Far-right politician found not guilty of inciting hatred and discrimination against Muslims.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2011/06/201162355047349463.html

 

[Misirkov]

Судот одлучи дека Вајлдерс не е виновен по сите ставки по кои е теретен (за омраза против муслиманите) .

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/06/geert-wilders-verdict-not-guilty-all-counts-eureka.html

The judges have delivered their verdict in the heresy trial of Dutch freedom politician Geert Wilders for inciting hatred against Muslims. NOT GUILTY of all charges of inciting hatred against Muslims. When do the Islamic supremacists go on trial for inciting hatred against non-Muslims?

Charges against Geert Wilders

1 Intentionally offending Muslims
2 Inciting hatred against Muslims
3 Inciting discrimination against Muslims
4 Inciting hatred of non-western immigrants

The islamic supremacists who initiated the case told judges that Mr Wilders' comments have led to a rise in discrimination and violence against Muslims. This is the enforcement of blasphemy laws under Islamic law.

The case began on October 4 last year, but collapsed after three weeks when a special legal panel ruled the judges may have shown partiality following a string of legal blunders. New judges were then sworn in and the case was heard again this year. (Dutch News)

The Islamic supremacist 'plaintiffs' were seeking a one-euro fine. But it's not about a largely symbolic fine, it is about a triumph over the tenets of Western law and free speech They said if they didn't get their symbolic one-euro pne,y don't get it, they say they will consider taking their case to the European Court of Human Rights. Ah yes, take it to the anti-humans under the guise of human rights.

The judge has started off by saying that most of the statements for which Geert Wilders has been charged are attributable to him. Two of the statements, however, were attributable to newspaper writers – a not guilty verdict for both these statements.

Charge #2 Incitement to hatred of people, i.e. Muslims, based on their religion - NOT GUILTY!!

Charge #4 Incitement to hatred of people, i.e. non-Western immigrants and/or Moroccans, based on their race - NOT GUILTY!

Charge #5 Incitement to discrimination, against people, i.e. non-Western immigrants and/or Moroccans, based on their race - NOT GUILTY!

FITNA - Geert's film - NOT GUILTY for the statements made by this movie!

And while Wilders is not part of the coalition government, the support of Mr Wilders's Freedom Party (PVV) keeps it in power. If convicted Wilders could have spent 16 months in prison and fined 10,000 euros (13,800 dollars). The ruling is expected early next month.

 

[Human]

Судот одлучи дека Вајлдерс не е виновен по сите ставки по кои е теретен (за омраза против муслиманите) .

Ќе се врати во политиката или веќе е вратен?

 

[flower power]

Овој е се појак во Холандија. Имам еден другар таму живее и самиот е од мешано потекло, татко му е имигрант(не е муслиман),мајка му холанѓанка и го поддржува. Ми вика, кај што живее он дека многу му рипнала поддршката таму.

Ако, кој к** бараат овие да доаѓаат во Европа? Не им е местото таму. Седат прават 10 деца, зимаат социјална помош и само ги цедат државите таму.

Башка прават проблеми, криминал, нереди, тензии...

Мрш назад у Саудијска Арабија, Пакистан, Мароко, Алжир или од каде и да дошле......Штета што прекасно им текна,тек кога градовите им заличија на Исламабад и Рабат...

a koj k** bara evropa vo irak,avganistan,libija,afrika i nasekade kade sto bukvalno im ja pie krvta na nedolzni luge.im go odzema ona sto ima pripaga nim i evropa zivee na nivni grb.site valkani , najtezki i najmalku plateni raboti im gi vrsat bas ovie luge.
po moe ne si izlezen poveke od skopje i pojma nemas sto sto znacat ovie luge od ekonomska gledna tocka za evropa. vo sprotivno ne bi go pisuval ova
--- надополнето: Jun 23, 2011 5:29 PM ---

Колку и да не сакам да речам, ама вистината е дека за некои работи е во право Герт. Ѓубрето од Африка и Блиски исток мора да се ичисти од Европа.

--- надополнето ---

Да се отстрани боевата глава а? :pos2:

hm sakas da kazes deka i makedoncite sto se vo kanada , australija i drugi zemji se gubre????

 

[Human]

hm sakas da kazes deka i makedoncite sto se vo kanada , australija i drugi zemji se gubre????

Македонците работат. Овие од Африка и Блиски исток не работат. Се множат само и самите се гетоизираат, никако не се приспособуваат на животот таму. Затоа и се ѓубре.

 

[Eisenhorn]

Македонците работат. Овие од Африка и Блиски исток не работат. Се множат само и самите се гетоизираат, никако не се приспособуваат на животот таму. Затоа и се ѓубре.

Егзекли. Босанците никад немале проблем во Холандија (ни во Германија) како ни Турците (воглавно) затоа што нивните деца одат на школо со локалните, го учат јазикот а родителите работат и ПЛАЌААТ ДАНОК.

Мароканци и слично само чекаат социјална помош а како што кажуваш се затвараат во свои населби каде сакаат да им биде како во пустината од каде дошле.

 

[TheTrooper]

a koj k** bara evropa vo irak,avganistan,libija,afrika i nasekade kade sto bukvalno im ja pie krvta na nedolzni luge.im go odzema ona sto ima pripaga nim i evropa zivee na nivni grb.site valkani , najtezki i najmalku plateni raboti im gi vrsat bas ovie luge.
po moe ne si izlezen poveke od skopje i pojma nemas sto sto znacat ovie luge od ekonomska gledna tocka za evropa. vo sprotivno ne bi go pisuval ova
--- надополнето: Jun 23, 2011 5:29 PM ---

hm sakas da kazes deka i makedoncite sto se vo kanada , australija i drugi zemji se gubre????

Ај да не пишувам сега,види што пишале Human и Eisenhorn доволно е..............

 

[no.one]

Колку и да не сакам да речам, ама вистината е дека за некои работи е во право Герт. Ѓубрето од Африка и Блиски исток мора да се ичисти од Европа.

--- надополнето ---

Да се отстрани боевата глава а? :pos2:

ebati imeto so ti e na nikot
--- надополнето: Jun 25, 2011 11:13 PM ---

Македонците работат. Овие од Африка и Блиски исток не работат. Се множат само и самите се гетоизираат, никако не се приспособуваат на животот таму. Затоа и се ѓубре.

a kulturnive evropejci vo avganistan i vo libija se prisposobuvaat na nivniot zivot taka? ili nemaat potreba samo ke proletaat nad niv so avioncinja ke srusat so e za rusenje i ke si napravat cist pat po koj ke si ja nosat naftata mn interesno
--- надополнето: Jun 25, 2011 11:13 PM ---
i sigurno si posol ti da vidis dali rabotat i so rabotat tamu

 

[flower power]

Егзекли. Босанците никад немале проблем во Холандија (ни во Германија) како ни Турците (воглавно) затоа што нивните деца одат на школо со локалните, го учат јазикот а родителите работат и ПЛАЌААТ ДАНОК.

Мароканци и слично само чекаат социјална помош а како што кажуваш се затвараат во свои населби каде сакаат да им биде како во пустината од каде дошле.

za da dobiat socijalna pomos treba da rabotat 2 god i da se regularno prijaveni.so sedenje nigde ne davaat.i koga ke dobijat pomos,dobivaat za odreden period.
a za naselbite ne se krivi samo tie,tuku i drzavata. drzavata sama pravi geta so toa sto site deca sto se od predgradijat i koi sto se socijalno zagrozeni posetuvaat skola kade sto nema nitu edno dete domakjin.ucat poseben program i nikomu ne mu e gajle dali se ili ne se na nastava.

 

[Human]

za da dobiat socijalna pomos treba da rabotat 2 god i da se regularno prijaveni.so sedenje nigde ne davaat.i koga ke dobijat pomos,dobivaat za odreden period.
a za naselbite ne se krivi samo tie,tuku i drzavata. drzavata sama pravi geta so toa sto site deca sto se od predgradijat i koi sto se socijalno zagrozeni posetuvaat skola kade sto nema nitu edno dete domakjin.ucat poseben program i nikomu ne mu e gajle dali se ili ne se na nastava.

Работи еден и потоа зема социјална помош со која издржува 10 члено семејство. Другите "работат" по дома.
Државата воопшто не е крива за населбите. Имаат пробано многупати да ги исчистат. Дури и им даваат станови, а во тие станови живеат и по 10 лица, па и повеќе.
Децата не им одат на училиште, не се обрзуваат, не го прифаќаат нивниот јазик, култура... самите се гетоизираат.
--- надополнето: Jun 26, 2011 8:33 PM ---

ebati imeto so ti e na nikot
--- надополнето: Jun 25, 2011 11:13 PM ---

a kulturnive evropejci vo avganistan i vo libija se prisposobuvaat na nivniot zivot taka? ili nemaat potreba samo ke proletaat nad niv so avioncinja ke srusat so e za rusenje i ke si napravat cist pat po koj ke si ja nosat naftata mn interesno
--- надополнето: Jun 25, 2011 11:13 PM ---
i sigurno si posol ti da vidis dali rabotat i so rabotat tamu

Лол, каква врска имаат војниците во Авганистан со имигрантите во Европа?

 

[no.one]

Работи еден и потоа зема социјална помош со која издржува 10 члено семејство. Другите "работат" по дома.
Државата воопшто не е крива за населбите. Имаат пробано многупати да ги исчистат. Дури и им даваат станови, а во тие станови живеат и по 10 лица, па и повеќе.
Децата не им одат на училиште, не се обрзуваат, не го прифаќаат нивниот јазик, култура... самите се гетоизираат.
--- надополнето: Jun 26, 2011 8:33 PM ---

Лол, каква врска имаат војниците во Авганистан со имигрантите во Европа?

sakam da kazam deka muslimanite koi doajgaat za podobar zivot vo evropa netreba da bidat progoneti ili omalovazuvani zatoa sto vo nivnite drzavi ne vladee pravda zaradi tokmu tie od evropa koi napravija haos vo nivnite drzavi a tie se primorani da baraat podobar zivot na drugi mesta