9/11 Терористи или сепак не?
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gledaj go Egde of Darkness so Mel Gibson( dobro filmce) ..... inaku vcera Mel si go prodade apartmanot vo Njujork za eftina cena i se preseli vo AvstralijaДа, ние Макединците сме втори мислам по процентот на војници во однос на населението..... ама пак ќе речам не сме ние криви за тоа, туку некој кој постојано ни наредуваат...
А ова со ФБИ и истрагата...стварно не знам. Не знам кој е надлежен за тоа. Но кога би можеле да наместат напади, зошто да не би можеле да наместат и една истрага?само претпотавка...
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Ти набројав примери погоре каде 1 или двајца луѓе само со нож киднапирале авиони... а камоли пак петмина...
али ова е јако објаснување...
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Ај, ќе бидам сега и јас ко фолијашите и ќе изнесам една "неверојатна" теорија:
Терористите се наоѓале во кокпитот, т.е. во најнапредниот дел на авионот. Кога авионот удрил, предниот дел се пробил низ зградата, со што голема е веројатноста тие делови да се помалку оштетени и незафатени од експлозијата.
Додека црните кутии се наоѓаат на задниот дел од авионот, со што експлозијата ги има разнесено.
Еве каде се наоѓаат црните кутии:
И еве го носот после ударот на авионот:
Само теорија...
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кога јас викам лоботомираните мене ме бришат ..
а некој тука континуирано етикетира со фолијаши и лоботомирани ...
ама одсега ќе ве викам лоботомирани мејнстрим зомбиевци... или мејнстрим лобоси ?
ајде лоботомирани мејнстрим зомбиевци објаснете кај се деловите и телата од авионот кој наводно се срушил и од оној кој наводно мавнал во пентагон ...
а некој тука континуирано етикетира со фолијаши и лоботомирани ...
ама одсега ќе ве викам лоботомирани мејнстрим зомбиевци... или мејнстрим лобоси ?
ајде лоботомирани мејнстрим зомбиевци објаснете кај се деловите и телата од авионот кој наводно се срушил и од оној кој наводно мавнал во пентагон ...
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Тој во пентагон испарил
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smart ass
Гостин
тие што велат беспилотно летало па ракета...абе дај нека објаснат чуму остатоци од седишта баш од боинг,и зарем мислите толкава штета ќе направи еден глобал хавк
а сега еве јас кои ФАКТИ ГИ ИМАМ за разлика од тие што одговараат со прашања!!!!!
As we can see from the freely available information for the 757(from the Boeing website). The 757 is a midsized commercial airliner designed for short haul and medium haul routes (Medium Range Transport (MR-TR)), although since its release, and the subsequent discovery of the Wake Vortex it leaves behind the FAA has classified the 757 as a "Heavy" aircraft; the FAA places the 757 in the Geometric Design Classification IV, and an ATC Operation Class C.
The 757-200 dimensions:
Tail Height: 44 ft 6 in (13.6m)
Length: 155 ft 3 in (47.32m)
Wingspan: 124 ft 10 in (38.05m)
Body Exterior Width: 12 ft 4 in (3.7m)
Fuel Capacity: 11,489 us gal (43,490l / 43,490kg)
Maximum Takeoff weight: 255,000lb (115,680kg)
Typical Cruise Speed: 0.80 Mach (573.6mph / 956kmh)
Engines used on a 757: Two 166.4kN (37,400lb) Rolls-Royce RB211-535C turbofans, or 178.8kN (40,200lb) RB211-535E4s, or 193.5kN (43,500lb) RB211-535E4-Bs, or 162.8kN (36,600lb) Pratt & Whitney PW2037s, or two 178.4kN (40,100lb) PW2040s, or 189.5kN (42,600lb) PW2043s. (source2)
Auxiliary Power Unit: Honeywell GTCP331-200
The Pentagon was designed in the early 40's and was completed in only 16 months on Jan 14, 1943. The shortages of materials required for war production raised many design and construction problems. The use of reinforced concrete in lieu of formed steel for the building made possible a saving of 43,000 tons of steel, more than enough to build a battleship. The use of concrete ramps rather than elevators further reduced steel requirements. Drainage pipes were concrete; ducts were fiber, interior doors were wood. An unusual wall design - concrete spandrels carried to window sill level - eliminated many miles of through-wall copper flashing
пентагон граден 43!!!!!!
The length of the outside wall on any side of the pentagon is 921 feet.
The wingspan of a 757 is 124 feet 10 inches.
Now, everyone can agree that 921/125= roughly 7.4 right?
Given the size of the 757, and the size of the Pentagon, the damaged area fits in peftectly with the dimensions of both the aircraft and the building.
Look at the hole in the building
Here is the hole in the building - it's been reported by at least a dozen different sources (including conspiracy theory sites) to be a 16 to 20 foot hole. That is really interesting when you take into account the fact that the 757 body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high. (Here is where I was mistaken in the past, like so very many others I was led astray by the HEIGHT of the aircraft, which is actually the measurement from the wheels-down to the tip of the tail. That measurement is for aircraft hangar clearance, not the SIZE of the aircraft.) The 757 is basically a cylinder that is 13 feet across. It then should not be surprising that it would create something around a thirteen foot hole in the side of the building.
Look at the nose-on view of a 757 - you can see the body is slightly less than 1/3 the size of the height of the aircraft. The tail certainly isn't going to punch a hole through a reinforced concrete wall; that is why there is no 40 foot hole in the front of the Pentagon in any photos. A 40 foot object didn't hit it, a 13 foot object did.
Here is an L1011 (it's a larger plane than a 757 - but the basic design of how a plane body is built is the same) being scrapped, you can see that almost ALL of the support structure is in the bottom 2/5 of the plane. This is the part that punched the hole in the Pentagon, the rest of the thin, hollow, top of the plane just shredded into chunks, some of which are laying on the lawn and around the rescue vehicles. Most of a commercial airliner is just a thin aluminum shell, insulation, a thin plastic inner liner, some carpet and seats. They're designed to be as light as possible so they can carry more cargo and more people while using less fuel and at the same time remain "safe".
It is a given that the majority of mass is going to be in the bottom half of the aircraft - the primary structure and heaviest parts are all located there, as is the luggage and any freight.
Landing Gear Evidence
Rim photographed in the Pentagon wreckage. You can clearly see it is a double bead design as required by the NTSB, and you can also see it has had 90% of the rim edge smashed off in the crash.
Landing gear strut - appears to be from the nose gear - note how charred the area around it is.
Below, another photo of a tire with the same pattern as ones used on a 757, found in the Pentagon wreckage.
Here is are photos of some apparent engine parts from the Pentagon crash site.
Below is a significant portion of a badly smashed RB211 engine in the Pentagon wreckage - what appears to be the diffusor section of the compressor, one of the pumps remains partially attached, some hoses and the familiar webbed wire wraps (to the right of the main ring) and some of the Boeing yellow primed support structure is lying beside it (left, with rivets - again: note the yellow primer, we'll cover that further down).
Reference: Image of the engine used on the 757 (it's the rightmost one, top row)
Another engine part, bottom right.
ИМАЈТЕ ПРЕДВИД НЕ Е ТОМАХАВК ИЛИ БЕСПИЛОТНО ЛЕТАЛО ОТКРИЕНИ СЕ СЕДИШТА(остатоците)
ПАЗИИИИИИИ!!!!
Here is another angle of the exact same piece in question - notice the people standing off to the right of it. More importantly, notice all the other small bits of the aircraft skin laying around.
Both (larger) Photos by Journalist 1st Class Mark D. Faram.
Even the black boxes тоа во превод е црна кутија(не викајте како не изгореле тие се правени да издржат катастрофа) have been recovered, the reason given for not playing the flight voice recorder for the media was that it wouldn't serve any use other than to cause more emotional pain to family members (се сложувам...или демократите ја фрлија тезата имајки на ум дека има ретардоси во САД па републиканците да изгубат)
НЕКОЈСЕ ЗАПНА ОГРАДА ТА ОГРАДА АМА ПОДОЛЕ Е ПОИНТЕРЕСНО
Area of fence to the right of the impact area partially flattened by the right engine of the plane. Note how a couple of the poles are bent right over, some are sheered off at the top, yet the pole and fence portion on the left is untouched (obviously the right engine took out the fence to the right of those poles) and the entire back side of the fence has been torn away. The generator was hit by the right wing and engine before the 757 hit the building - the damage is evidenced by many photos of the crash area.
Closeup of generator smashed in the front and gouged on the top - hard to image a missile accomplishing both of these. But if the right engine of a 757 hit the front of the generator, part of the wing could gouge the top. At the very least, something very large, and very heavy smashed into this extremely heavy desil generator.
if this was a missile or a bomb, the explosion could ONLY have spun it away from the building.
како може беспилотно летало кое е лесно да го да го помрднат тешкиот генератор...хммммм БОИНГ Е
malce fizika
Purdue slikava ja dobiv od Purdue univerzitetot.
ВИ ГИ ДАДОА ЛИ ОВИЕ ИЗЈАВИ ВО ВАШИТЕ ФИЛМЧИЊА ОВИЕ СВЕДОШТВА
"Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 'It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane,' Mr Campo said. 'I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.'" извор ке баратеThe Guardian, 12 Sep 2001
"Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. 'There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.'"
Henry Ticknor, intern minister at the Unitarian Universalist Church of Arlington, Virginia, was driving to church that Tuesday morning when American Airlines Flight 77 came in fast and low over his car and struck the Pentagon. 'There was a puff of white smoke and then a huge billowing black cloud,' he said."
за овој од црквата UU World, Jan/Feb 20
ФАКТИТЕ
големината на 757 се совпага со дупката на зградата
Rims found in building match those of a 757
Small turbine engine outside is an APU
Same engine has been clearly stated to not match a Global Hawk engine
Blue seats from 757 laying on ground in photos
Part of "American" fuselage logo visible in more than 1 photo
Engine parts photographed inside match a Rolls-Royce RB211
Structural components photographed in wreckage match Boeing paint primer schemes
Large deisel generator in front of building hit by a large heavy object
Large deisel engine outside is spun towards the building - could not be result of bomb blast or missile explosion
Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner
Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner hit the Pentagon
60+ bodies, matching the passenger list and flight crew roster identified and returned to families from Pentagon wreckage
ајде бидете ми поздравени:helou:
во интерес на вистината!!!!
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а сега еве јас кои ФАКТИ ГИ ИМАМ за разлика од тие што одговараат со прашања!!!!!
As we can see from the freely available information for the 757(from the Boeing website). The 757 is a midsized commercial airliner designed for short haul and medium haul routes (Medium Range Transport (MR-TR)), although since its release, and the subsequent discovery of the Wake Vortex it leaves behind the FAA has classified the 757 as a "Heavy" aircraft; the FAA places the 757 in the Geometric Design Classification IV, and an ATC Operation Class C.
The 757-200 dimensions:
Tail Height: 44 ft 6 in (13.6m)
Length: 155 ft 3 in (47.32m)
Wingspan: 124 ft 10 in (38.05m)
Body Exterior Width: 12 ft 4 in (3.7m)
Fuel Capacity: 11,489 us gal (43,490l / 43,490kg)
Maximum Takeoff weight: 255,000lb (115,680kg)
Typical Cruise Speed: 0.80 Mach (573.6mph / 956kmh)
Engines used on a 757: Two 166.4kN (37,400lb) Rolls-Royce RB211-535C turbofans, or 178.8kN (40,200lb) RB211-535E4s, or 193.5kN (43,500lb) RB211-535E4-Bs, or 162.8kN (36,600lb) Pratt & Whitney PW2037s, or two 178.4kN (40,100lb) PW2040s, or 189.5kN (42,600lb) PW2043s. (source2)
Auxiliary Power Unit: Honeywell GTCP331-200
The Pentagon was designed in the early 40's and was completed in only 16 months on Jan 14, 1943. The shortages of materials required for war production raised many design and construction problems. The use of reinforced concrete in lieu of formed steel for the building made possible a saving of 43,000 tons of steel, more than enough to build a battleship. The use of concrete ramps rather than elevators further reduced steel requirements. Drainage pipes were concrete; ducts were fiber, interior doors were wood. An unusual wall design - concrete spandrels carried to window sill level - eliminated many miles of through-wall copper flashing
пентагон граден 43!!!!!!
The length of the outside wall on any side of the pentagon is 921 feet.
The wingspan of a 757 is 124 feet 10 inches.
Now, everyone can agree that 921/125= roughly 7.4 right?
Given the size of the 757, and the size of the Pentagon, the damaged area fits in peftectly with the dimensions of both the aircraft and the building.
Look at the hole in the building
Here is the hole in the building - it's been reported by at least a dozen different sources (including conspiracy theory sites) to be a 16 to 20 foot hole. That is really interesting when you take into account the fact that the 757 body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high. (Here is where I was mistaken in the past, like so very many others I was led astray by the HEIGHT of the aircraft, which is actually the measurement from the wheels-down to the tip of the tail. That measurement is for aircraft hangar clearance, not the SIZE of the aircraft.) The 757 is basically a cylinder that is 13 feet across. It then should not be surprising that it would create something around a thirteen foot hole in the side of the building.
Look at the nose-on view of a 757 - you can see the body is slightly less than 1/3 the size of the height of the aircraft. The tail certainly isn't going to punch a hole through a reinforced concrete wall; that is why there is no 40 foot hole in the front of the Pentagon in any photos. A 40 foot object didn't hit it, a 13 foot object did.
Here is an L1011 (it's a larger plane than a 757 - but the basic design of how a plane body is built is the same) being scrapped, you can see that almost ALL of the support structure is in the bottom 2/5 of the plane. This is the part that punched the hole in the Pentagon, the rest of the thin, hollow, top of the plane just shredded into chunks, some of which are laying on the lawn and around the rescue vehicles. Most of a commercial airliner is just a thin aluminum shell, insulation, a thin plastic inner liner, some carpet and seats. They're designed to be as light as possible so they can carry more cargo and more people while using less fuel and at the same time remain "safe".
It is a given that the majority of mass is going to be in the bottom half of the aircraft - the primary structure and heaviest parts are all located there, as is the luggage and any freight.
Landing Gear Evidence
Rim photographed in the Pentagon wreckage. You can clearly see it is a double bead design as required by the NTSB, and you can also see it has had 90% of the rim edge smashed off in the crash.
Landing gear strut - appears to be from the nose gear - note how charred the area around it is.
Below, another photo of a tire with the same pattern as ones used on a 757, found in the Pentagon wreckage.
Here is are photos of some apparent engine parts from the Pentagon crash site.
Below is a significant portion of a badly smashed RB211 engine in the Pentagon wreckage - what appears to be the diffusor section of the compressor, one of the pumps remains partially attached, some hoses and the familiar webbed wire wraps (to the right of the main ring) and some of the Boeing yellow primed support structure is lying beside it (left, with rivets - again: note the yellow primer, we'll cover that further down).
Reference: Image of the engine used on the 757 (it's the rightmost one, top row)
Another engine part, bottom right.
ИМАЈТЕ ПРЕДВИД НЕ Е ТОМАХАВК ИЛИ БЕСПИЛОТНО ЛЕТАЛО ОТКРИЕНИ СЕ СЕДИШТА(остатоците)
ПАЗИИИИИИИ!!!!
Here is another angle of the exact same piece in question - notice the people standing off to the right of it. More importantly, notice all the other small bits of the aircraft skin laying around.
Both (larger) Photos by Journalist 1st Class Mark D. Faram.
Even the black boxes тоа во превод е црна кутија(не викајте како не изгореле тие се правени да издржат катастрофа) have been recovered, the reason given for not playing the flight voice recorder for the media was that it wouldn't serve any use other than to cause more emotional pain to family members (се сложувам...или демократите ја фрлија тезата имајки на ум дека има ретардоси во САД па републиканците да изгубат)
НЕКОЈСЕ ЗАПНА ОГРАДА ТА ОГРАДА АМА ПОДОЛЕ Е ПОИНТЕРЕСНО
Area of fence to the right of the impact area partially flattened by the right engine of the plane. Note how a couple of the poles are bent right over, some are sheered off at the top, yet the pole and fence portion on the left is untouched (obviously the right engine took out the fence to the right of those poles) and the entire back side of the fence has been torn away. The generator was hit by the right wing and engine before the 757 hit the building - the damage is evidenced by many photos of the crash area.
Closeup of generator smashed in the front and gouged on the top - hard to image a missile accomplishing both of these. But if the right engine of a 757 hit the front of the generator, part of the wing could gouge the top. At the very least, something very large, and very heavy smashed into this extremely heavy desil generator.
if this was a missile or a bomb, the explosion could ONLY have spun it away from the building.
како може беспилотно летало кое е лесно да го да го помрднат тешкиот генератор...хммммм БОИНГ Е
malce fizika
Purdue slikava ja dobiv od Purdue univerzitetot.
ВИ ГИ ДАДОА ЛИ ОВИЕ ИЗЈАВИ ВО ВАШИТЕ ФИЛМЧИЊА ОВИЕ СВЕДОШТВА
"Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 'It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane,' Mr Campo said. 'I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.'" извор ке баратеThe Guardian, 12 Sep 2001
"Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. 'There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.'"
Henry Ticknor, intern minister at the Unitarian Universalist Church of Arlington, Virginia, was driving to church that Tuesday morning when American Airlines Flight 77 came in fast and low over his car and struck the Pentagon. 'There was a puff of white smoke and then a huge billowing black cloud,' he said."
за овој од црквата UU World, Jan/Feb 20
ФАКТИТЕ
големината на 757 се совпага со дупката на зградата
Rims found in building match those of a 757
Small turbine engine outside is an APU
Same engine has been clearly stated to not match a Global Hawk engine
Blue seats from 757 laying on ground in photos
Part of "American" fuselage logo visible in more than 1 photo
Engine parts photographed inside match a Rolls-Royce RB211
Structural components photographed in wreckage match Boeing paint primer schemes
Large deisel generator in front of building hit by a large heavy object
Large deisel engine outside is spun towards the building - could not be result of bomb blast or missile explosion
Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner
Multiple eye witnesses say they saw an airliner hit the Pentagon
60+ bodies, matching the passenger list and flight crew roster identified and returned to families from Pentagon wreckage
ајде бидете ми поздравени:helou:
во интерес на вистината!!!!
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Ова ли е тој делот....кога го фрка параноја
S
smart ass
Гостин
ЦИА мајнд контрол-фолијата
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Дејвид Ајк-рептилите,Питер Џексон Алекс Џонс,и остали непродуктивни говеда кои само крекаат на сметка на глупоста на рајата.
Г
Господ
Гостин
Ако може да прашам нешо во врска со пентагонскиот авион?
Оти не било реагирано ако во забранет воздушен простор само малку по удирање на неколку патнички авиони во СТЦ бил забележан авион над белата куќа на само 5 километри од Пентагон ако 4 авиони им фалеле?
S
smart ass
Гостин
НАВРЕДА!!!!!!
Како може некој АРМ да ја етикетира како ОКУПАТОРСКА Армија-АРМ е во Авганистан со АМИН од Претседателот како врховен Командант.
АРМ учествува во мисијата ИСАФ со + 40 други држави-башка нашата војска не беше инволвирана директно во Судирите.
А кој беше Most Wanted???
Чии сметки беа замрзнати-на организации блиски со Ал каеда.
Ова понејасно не може да биде.
Manga
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Многу проста намештаљка , повод за да отидат во Ирак божем оружје за масовно уништување :pos2: ..ни О од оружје не најдоа , ама милиони барели нафта и те како начекаа
Има некој да одговори што се деси со авионот што падна во Питсбург ??
и те како начекааИма некој да одговори што се деси со авионот што падна во Питсбург ??
S
smart ass
Гостин
Што се деси со авиониот што се урна во Питсбург :?????
Ден денес нема еден доказ
Не бее...тој авион НЕ УСПЕА т.е АЛ КАЕДА тука Утна,е сега конспираси говедата мораат да фокусираат на Кулите со застрашувачки видеа,Музика и дебили кои велат Чув БЕНГ!!!
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После Кулите Авганистан беше нападнат-не Ирак.
Ама тие
И оти војната е ефтина западнаа во Криза!!ама милиони барели нафта
Manga
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од кај напраи копи пасте на ова =)) , има слика , некое видео , било што , зошто ги избркаа снимателите на НБС и им ја зедоа снимката од божемската урнатина = минијатурна дупка - без тела и остатоци од авион ????????? чудно нели , ниедно запалено дрво во оклината само една мала дупка ;/ овој лет ги издаде ...
Знаеш дека гласовите не одговараат со измислените личности во авионот ???? Ги нема во податоци дека се воопшто родени ??
Нема ниту еден доказ дека некој е мртов од тие :/
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:pos2: Кој бил богат си останал богат , која криза , да не сакаш парите да им ги поделат на сиромавите и невработените .. Робин Худ умре
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[video]http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=flight+93+news+coverage&aq=0[/video]
Авионот во Питсбург .......
уствари кај е авионот ????
S
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