УЈП и повлекување пари од банкомат

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Не сум дошол до позиција да плаќам данок, сега за сега, не се занимавам сеуште доволно долго со ова. Кај нас уште нема конкретизирано за ваков начин на прилив на пари како и дали подлежи на данок. Се отвори дискусија дали е тоа правилно и потребно, затоа дадов свое мислење зошто не ми делува правилно.

е па баш тоа ме провоцира, значи тоа кај нас се уште не конретизирано ама се пцуе на големо и држава и народ, , на не роден Петко капа му се крои. Во многу држави низ светот се многу полоши се многу работи околу даноците ама сите викаат тоа само кај нас го има.Затоа и те прашав дали знаеш како е регулирано на запад тоа баш за кое ти зборуваш, јас лично не знам ама сакав да знам.... Читам тука некој ја спомнува Грција,и кога се спомнува Грција, знаете ли вие како изгледа обложувањето во Грција ....па дури тогаш рака да му бацувате на Грујо.
 
е па баш тоа ме провоцира, значи тоа кај нас се уште не конретизирано ама се пцуе на големо и држава и народ, , на не роден Петко капа му се крои. Во многу држави низ светот се многу полоши се многу работи околу даноците ама сите викаат тоа само кај нас го има.Затоа и те прашав дали знаеш како е регулирано на запад тоа баш за кое ти зборуваш, јас лично не знам ама сакав да знам.... Читам тука некој ја спомнува Грција,и кога се спомнува Грција, знаете ли вие како изгледа обложувањето во Грција ....па дури тогаш рака да му бацувате на Грујо.
Во Грција не плаќаат данок и имаат 10тина свои онлине облозувалници;)
 
Во Грција не плаќаат данок и имаат 10тина свои онлине облозувалници;)
можда се имаат поправено, ситуацијата таму воопшто не беше розева.
 
е па баш тоа ме провоцира, значи тоа кај нас се уште не конретизирано ама се пцуе на големо и држава и народ, , на не роден Петко капа му се крои. Во многу држави низ светот се многу полоши се многу работи околу даноците ама сите викаат тоа само кај нас го има.Затоа и те прашав дали знаеш како е регулирано на запад тоа баш за кое ти зборуваш, јас лично не знам ама сакав да знам.... Читам тука некој ја спомнува Грција,и кога се спомнува Грција, знаете ли вие како изгледа обложувањето во Грција ....па дури тогаш рака да му бацувате на Грујо.
Прилично доволно е да знаеш каде живееш за да знаеш кон кого и кон што да пцуеш и зошто.
Прво ние не сме ни во ЕУ, без везе ти е споредбата, а овие држави со високи даноци што ги спомнуваш, и покрај даноците живеат 15 пати подобро од нас и повеќе им стигаат пари за живот. Грција живеат како грофови не ги боли стап ни за работа ни за ништо, од легачење земаат по 15 плати, после се бунеа зошто им намалиле на 14-13. Гркот живее 5 пати подобро отколку македонецот, со 3 пати помалку работење.
 
Прилично доволно е да знаеш каде живееш за да знаеш кон кого и кон што да пцуеш и зошто.
Прво ние не сме ни во ЕУ, без везе ти е споредбата, а овие држави со високи даноци што ги спомнуваш, и покрај даноците живеат 15 пати подобро од нас и повеќе им стигаат пари за живот. Грција живеат како грофови не ги боли стап ни за работа ни за ништо, од легачење земаат по 15 плати, после се бунеа зошто им намалиле на 14-13. Гркот живее 5 пати подобро отколку македонецот, со 3 пати помалку работење.
хммм, сакаш да кажеш дека се 5 пати попаметни од нас ..., или ние сме пет пати поглупави од нив, а истовремено 3 пати поработливи....:tapp:
 
Прилично доволно е да знаеш каде живееш за да знаеш кон кого и кон што да пцуеш и зошто.
Прво ние не сме ни во ЕУ, без везе ти е споредбата, а овие држави со високи даноци што ги спомнуваш, и покрај даноците живеат 15 пати подобро од нас и повеќе им стигаат пари за живот. Грција живеат како грофови не ги боли стап ни за работа ни за ништо, од легачење земаат по 15 плати, после се бунеа зошто им намалиле на 14-13. Гркот живее 5 пати подобро отколку македонецот, со 3 пати помалку работење.
Не знам дали или немаат работа ама на нет им ги гледам цените и гледам дека се највисоки.
Не знам како им се во продавница не сум бил од јануари ама најверојатно и таму им се високи.
Таква политика со високи цени води до намалена работа со тоа и намален обрт на средства,намалена работа во исто време и плата.
Со таква политика и 5 пати помалку ќе работат од Македонецот а со пари ќе издржат додека Германија не им го секне изворот.
 
Како што тргнала работава овие ќе стават данок и на парите што внучињата ги добиваат од бабите и дедовците.
2000 година се чини како да беше пред 140 години а не само пред 14 кога во буџетот имаше вишок неколку стотици милиончиња германски марки.
 
Во Грција не плаќаат данок и имаат 10тина свои онлине облозувалници;)
немав намера да ја тегнам темава, ама изгледа во право беше , во Грција не плаќаат 10% данок, таму плаќаат 20%.
Greece: Greece has allowed online gambling through a state run monopoly for over a decade. The EU Commission has long contended that Greek gambling regulations both online and offline are in violation of EU law.

The government now plans to open the market up and issue gaming licenses to some 20 applicants. Greek citizens have been playing on many unlicensed sites for years, so this may not change things for some players. It remains to be seen what the full regulations will be from the Greek government. Gambling winnings in Greece are taxed at a rate of 20%.

да видиме како е кај другите, има интерсни и подобри и полоши од кај нас. За Англичаниве капа долу, Цареви


France: France legalized online gambling all the way back in 2006, which legalized only a few state run betting sites. The European Commission forced them to open their laws to foreign operators in 2009. While France opened the market, the new laws favored state run operators and levied high taxes on foreign companies and restricted the games offered.

Online sports betting is legal in France, along with online horse race betting and online poker. Casino games are illegal, along with spread betting.

Gamblers pay zero tax on their online gambling winnings in France. Poker, casino, horse wagering are not taxable currently under French law.

Italy: Italians have gone from outlawing all forms of gambling, to liberalizing the market in 2006 and then opening their borders to foreign operators in 2010.

Foreign operators must receive a license from the Italian government and can offer Italian citizens skill games, tournament and cash poker, casino games, bingo and pool betting. Operators have a list of requirements before they gain a license and owe the Italian government a €350,000 fee for administrative and supervision costs.

Players are restricted from playing on .com sites and must play on licensed sites with a .it domain name. A law was passed in February 2011, which applied a flat tax of 20% for online gambling winnings won by players.

United Kingdom: The UK is the leader in online gambling and was one of the first member states to legalize the activity. Home to many of the world’s largest bookmakers, the UK is rich in gambling history. Players will have unfiltered access to both foreign and domestic operators and all forms of gambling are legal in the UK.

There is zero tax on gambling winnings (in any form) in the UK, both online and offline. Under UK law, players can wager on sports, poker, casino games, bingo and other forms of gambling.

Ireland: Irish gambling law is almost identical to the UK and offers no restrictions and is wide open to foreign operators. Irish laws allow gambling in all forms, both online and offline. Ireland, like the UK, does not tax gambling winnings.

Germany: Online gambling had some popularity among citizens with foreign operators in the early to mid 2000s, but in 2008, the national government outlawed all forms of online gambling. Taking an almost totalitarian stance, the government drafted rules to block gaming sites and stop German banks from doing business with foreign operators.

EU Courts put a stop this in 2010 and forced Germany to open up their market. German state Schleswig-Holstein drafted regulated and currently has handed out 23 licenses to operators. A court ruling in 2010 partially opens Germany to a limited number foreign operators.

While gambling operators are taxed heavily by the German government, citizens pay no tax on online gambling winnings.

Spain: After restricting gambling to state run lotteries for more than 50 years, Spain legalized online gambling in 2008. They further liberalized the market in 2011 and allowed the expansion of foreign operators into the country. Spanish law allows online poker, sports betting, casino games and bingo to licensed operators.

Spanish bettors have the best of both worlds as the world’s biggest gaming sites are offered to Spanish citizens, and there is a legion on home-grown Spanish betting sites available, as well.

Licensed operators pay a 25% tax on gross revenue gained in the Spanish market. Players are subject to normal income tax, which starts at 24%.

Netherlands: Online gambling is currently illegal in the Netherlands but may not be much longer. Since 2006, Holland Casino, a state run entity was the only operator to allow online gambling to Dutch citizens.

However, many sites still operated in the Netherlands and Dutch citizens regularly wagered on unlicensed online gambling sites with little or no repercussions. After many battles with EU regulators, the Dutch Supreme Court finally ruled against the ring fencing of Dutch online gamblers.

As of early 2014, the Dutch government is in the process of legalizing online gambling and should introduce legislation soon to regulated online casino games, poker, sports betting and bingo. The gaming tax proposed on operators is a hefty 29%.

Greece: Greece has allowed online gambling through a state run monopoly for over a decade. The EU Commission has long contended that Greek gambling regulations both online and offline are in violation of EU law.

The government now plans to open the market up and issue gaming licenses to some 20 applicants. Greek citizens have been playing on many unlicensed sites for years, so this may not change things for some players. It remains to be seen what the full regulations will be from the Greek government. Gambling winnings in Greece are taxed at a rate of 20%.

Belgium: Citizens in Belgium gambled online for years with foreign operators until the government passed laws regulating the activity in 2009. These laws became active in 2011, and allowed for foreign companies to offer services to Belgian citizens.

Companies who wish to offer bets to citizens online must have a land based casino in the country and have a set of servers located in Belgium.

Many foreign online sportsbooks and poker rooms are now operating legally in Belgium as the country looks forward to a future of legal online gambling.

Austria: In Austria online gambling is legal for both foreign and domestic operators. Both must gain approval from the Austrian government before offering bettors a chance to wager online.

Online poker, casino gambling and sports betting can all be licensed for online play. Gambling operators are taxed, but bettors are not required to pay taxes on their winnings. Under Austrian law, gambling is not considered a profession but rather a recreational hobby.

Poland: Poland heavily restricts online gambling within their borders and only offers a small number of licenses to domestic and foreign operators. The country seems to be going the wrong way for gamblers, and recent proposed legislation looks to restrict all forms of online gambling except sports betting.

Though online gambling in many cases remains illegal, citizens are required to pay a 10% tax on gambling winnings both live and online.

Sweden: Online gambling in Sweden has been legal for over a decade on the state run sports betting, poker and casino website Svenska Spel. As some might expect, this state run monopoly has also faced pressure from the EU because they violated protectionist laws on online gambling.

However, things still seem to be just fine for online bettors in Sweden. Many foreign operators operate freely within the state and players have no problems depositing and withdrawing. In early 2014, Sweden made plans for a more relaxed regulated market that would license foreign operators.

Gambling winnings from state run operations or those based in the EU are not taxable under Swedish law. Winnings from sites operating outside the EU are subject to Swedish income tax.

Norway: Similar to Sweden, Norway has a state run monopoly on gambling. Only two state run entities can offer online and offline gambling to citizens. These are Norsk Tipping and Norsk Rikstoto.

Like Sweden, Norwegian citizens still actively gamble with foreign online gambling operators even though they are deemed illegal by the government. However, the Norwegian government did pass laws that forced local banks to block gambling transactions of Norwegian debit and credit cards.

Norwegian citizens pay no taxes on gambling winnings with state run operators, but are require to pay taxes on gambling profits made with foreign operators.

Finland: Finland has a state run monopoly on online gambling. Two providers, owned by the Finnish government can provide internet gaming to Finnish citizens. They offer online casino games, a poker room, bingo and an online sportsbook.

This may expand with the liberalization on online gambling in 2010 by the Finnish government. Foreign operators are prohibited from offering Finnish citizens their services. However, this is not strictly enforced, and Finnish media are full of advertisements from foreign operators. Finnish players gamble on foreign gambling sites in large numbers.

Finland does not tax online gambling winnings if players win money on a site based in the European Union.

Denmark: Denmark has legal online gambling that is part state run monopoly and part free market. The state runs Danske Spil, an online gambling website that offers players chance and skill games. However, the state has a monopoly of chance based games.

The market was opened to license a small number of foreign operators in 2010, but came with high tax rates, such as 45%-75% of gross revenue. Games are not ring fenced to just Danes but have players all over the world to help with liquidity. They currently license online sportsbook, poker, and casino games. Bingo is not licensed. The government has made attempts to block operators that continue to provide service to players without a license. However, Danes still play on unlicensed sites in large numbers with no repercussions from their local government.

Danish players are not subject to tax from online winnings made from licensed sites based in the EU.

Portugal: In Portugal, online gambling is mostly illegal except for a few state run sites that offer sports betting and casino games. Land based casino gambling is legal but highly restrictive.

Currently, some foreign operators do offer poker, sports and casino gambling to Portuguese citizens but do so without a license from the government. In late 2012, Portugal drafted legalization to liberalize their online gambling industry and license foreign operators. The motivation for the government seems to be an estimate €250 million in yearly tax revenues.

Players do not pay tax for online gambling winnings in Portugal if they play on an EU based site.

What about Eastern Europe? Countries in Eastern Europe are largely unregulated at this point, players can signup and play anywhere they choose, with a few exceptions. Many sites specifically target gamblers in Eastern Europe, we hope to cover more information on this soon.
 
немав намера да ја тегнам темава, ама изгледа во право беше , во Грција не плаќаат 10% данок, таму плаќаат 20%.
Greece: Greece has allowed online gambling through a state run monopoly for over a decade. The EU Commission has long contended that Greek gambling regulations both online and offline are in violation of EU law.

The government now plans to open the market up and issue gaming licenses to some 20 applicants. Greek citizens have been playing on many unlicensed sites for years, so this may not change things for some players. It remains to be seen what the full regulations will be from the Greek government. Gambling winnings in Greece are taxed at a rate of 20%.

да видиме како е кај другите, има интерсни и подобри и полоши од кај нас. За Англичаниве капа долу, Цареви


France: France legalized online gambling all the way back in 2006, which legalized only a few state run betting sites. The European Commission forced them to open their laws to foreign operators in 2009. While France opened the market, the new laws favored state run operators and levied high taxes on foreign companies and restricted the games offered.

Online sports betting is legal in France, along with online horse race betting and online poker. Casino games are illegal, along with spread betting.

Gamblers pay zero tax on their online gambling winnings in France. Poker, casino, horse wagering are not taxable currently under French law.

Italy: Italians have gone from outlawing all forms of gambling, to liberalizing the market in 2006 and then opening their borders to foreign operators in 2010.

Foreign operators must receive a license from the Italian government and can offer Italian citizens skill games, tournament and cash poker, casino games, bingo and pool betting. Operators have a list of requirements before they gain a license and owe the Italian government a €350,000 fee for administrative and supervision costs.

Players are restricted from playing on .com sites and must play on licensed sites with a .it domain name. A law was passed in February 2011, which applied a flat tax of 20% for online gambling winnings won by players.

United Kingdom: The UK is the leader in online gambling and was one of the first member states to legalize the activity. Home to many of the world’s largest bookmakers, the UK is rich in gambling history. Players will have unfiltered access to both foreign and domestic operators and all forms of gambling are legal in the UK.

There is zero tax on gambling winnings (in any form) in the UK, both online and offline. Under UK law, players can wager on sports, poker, casino games, bingo and other forms of gambling.

Ireland: Irish gambling law is almost identical to the UK and offers no restrictions and is wide open to foreign operators. Irish laws allow gambling in all forms, both online and offline. Ireland, like the UK, does not tax gambling winnings.

Germany: Online gambling had some popularity among citizens with foreign operators in the early to mid 2000s, but in 2008, the national government outlawed all forms of online gambling. Taking an almost totalitarian stance, the government drafted rules to block gaming sites and stop German banks from doing business with foreign operators.

EU Courts put a stop this in 2010 and forced Germany to open up their market. German state Schleswig-Holstein drafted regulated and currently has handed out 23 licenses to operators. A court ruling in 2010 partially opens Germany to a limited number foreign operators.

While gambling operators are taxed heavily by the German government, citizens pay no tax on online gambling winnings.

Spain: After restricting gambling to state run lotteries for more than 50 years, Spain legalized online gambling in 2008. They further liberalized the market in 2011 and allowed the expansion of foreign operators into the country. Spanish law allows online poker, sports betting, casino games and bingo to licensed operators.

Spanish bettors have the best of both worlds as the world’s biggest gaming sites are offered to Spanish citizens, and there is a legion on home-grown Spanish betting sites available, as well.

Licensed operators pay a 25% tax on gross revenue gained in the Spanish market. Players are subject to normal income tax, which starts at 24%.

Netherlands: Online gambling is currently illegal in the Netherlands but may not be much longer. Since 2006, Holland Casino, a state run entity was the only operator to allow online gambling to Dutch citizens.

However, many sites still operated in the Netherlands and Dutch citizens regularly wagered on unlicensed online gambling sites with little or no repercussions. After many battles with EU regulators, the Dutch Supreme Court finally ruled against the ring fencing of Dutch online gamblers.

As of early 2014, the Dutch government is in the process of legalizing online gambling and should introduce legislation soon to regulated online casino games, poker, sports betting and bingo. The gaming tax proposed on operators is a hefty 29%.

Greece: Greece has allowed online gambling through a state run monopoly for over a decade. The EU Commission has long contended that Greek gambling regulations both online and offline are in violation of EU law.

The government now plans to open the market up and issue gaming licenses to some 20 applicants. Greek citizens have been playing on many unlicensed sites for years, so this may not change things for some players. It remains to be seen what the full regulations will be from the Greek government. Gambling winnings in Greece are taxed at a rate of 20%.

Belgium: Citizens in Belgium gambled online for years with foreign operators until the government passed laws regulating the activity in 2009. These laws became active in 2011, and allowed for foreign companies to offer services to Belgian citizens.

Companies who wish to offer bets to citizens online must have a land based casino in the country and have a set of servers located in Belgium.

Many foreign online sportsbooks and poker rooms are now operating legally in Belgium as the country looks forward to a future of legal online gambling.

Austria: In Austria online gambling is legal for both foreign and domestic operators. Both must gain approval from the Austrian government before offering bettors a chance to wager online.

Online poker, casino gambling and sports betting can all be licensed for online play. Gambling operators are taxed, but bettors are not required to pay taxes on their winnings. Under Austrian law, gambling is not considered a profession but rather a recreational hobby.

Poland: Poland heavily restricts online gambling within their borders and only offers a small number of licenses to domestic and foreign operators. The country seems to be going the wrong way for gamblers, and recent proposed legislation looks to restrict all forms of online gambling except sports betting.

Though online gambling in many cases remains illegal, citizens are required to pay a 10% tax on gambling winnings both live and online.

Sweden: Online gambling in Sweden has been legal for over a decade on the state run sports betting, poker and casino website Svenska Spel. As some might expect, this state run monopoly has also faced pressure from the EU because they violated protectionist laws on online gambling.

However, things still seem to be just fine for online bettors in Sweden. Many foreign operators operate freely within the state and players have no problems depositing and withdrawing. In early 2014, Sweden made plans for a more relaxed regulated market that would license foreign operators.

Gambling winnings from state run operations or those based in the EU are not taxable under Swedish law. Winnings from sites operating outside the EU are subject to Swedish income tax.

Norway: Similar to Sweden, Norway has a state run monopoly on gambling. Only two state run entities can offer online and offline gambling to citizens. These are Norsk Tipping and Norsk Rikstoto.

Like Sweden, Norwegian citizens still actively gamble with foreign online gambling operators even though they are deemed illegal by the government. However, the Norwegian government did pass laws that forced local banks to block gambling transactions of Norwegian debit and credit cards.

Norwegian citizens pay no taxes on gambling winnings with state run operators, but are require to pay taxes on gambling profits made with foreign operators.

Finland: Finland has a state run monopoly on online gambling. Two providers, owned by the Finnish government can provide internet gaming to Finnish citizens. They offer online casino games, a poker room, bingo and an online sportsbook.

This may expand with the liberalization on online gambling in 2010 by the Finnish government. Foreign operators are prohibited from offering Finnish citizens their services. However, this is not strictly enforced, and Finnish media are full of advertisements from foreign operators. Finnish players gamble on foreign gambling sites in large numbers.

Finland does not tax online gambling winnings if players win money on a site based in the European Union.

Denmark: Denmark has legal online gambling that is part state run monopoly and part free market. The state runs Danske Spil, an online gambling website that offers players chance and skill games. However, the state has a monopoly of chance based games.

The market was opened to license a small number of foreign operators in 2010, but came with high tax rates, such as 45%-75% of gross revenue. Games are not ring fenced to just Danes but have players all over the world to help with liquidity. They currently license online sportsbook, poker, and casino games. Bingo is not licensed. The government has made attempts to block operators that continue to provide service to players without a license. However, Danes still play on unlicensed sites in large numbers with no repercussions from their local government.

Danish players are not subject to tax from online winnings made from licensed sites based in the EU.

Portugal: In Portugal, online gambling is mostly illegal except for a few state run sites that offer sports betting and casino games. Land based casino gambling is legal but highly restrictive.

Currently, some foreign operators do offer poker, sports and casino gambling to Portuguese citizens but do so without a license from the government. In late 2012, Portugal drafted legalization to liberalize their online gambling industry and license foreign operators. The motivation for the government seems to be an estimate €250 million in yearly tax revenues.

Players do not pay tax for online gambling winnings in Portugal if they play on an EU based site.

What about Eastern Europe? Countries in Eastern Europe are largely unregulated at this point, players can signup and play anywhere they choose, with a few exceptions. Many sites specifically target gamblers in Eastern Europe, we hope to cover more information on this soon.
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Za site tie državi što si pišal neznam no vo Grcija nema odanočuvanje siguren sum i ni eden takov tekst nemože da me ubedi vo sprotivnoto.

Од каде толку сигурен, ти не знаеше дека во сопствената држава се плаќа, не па во друга држава.
 
Супер, дај ние да земаме плати како во Шведска и Норвешка, полесно ќе го поднесам плаќањето данок.
 
осум страни муабет за џабе. Никој не платил данок за вадење пари од банкомат. Единствено може да почне да се наплаќа ако продолжите да коментирате.
 
Србија,Босна,Црнагора,Словенија,Хрватска,никаде не се плаќа данок како тука,во Србија,ЦГ,Босна не постои воопшто данок си се кладат како луѓе па нормално тие таму се прави луѓе и се борат за својта дрзава нема шанса таму да воведат данок бидејќи цел народ ке скокне и нема да има такво нешто,за разлика од кај нас и 20% па и 50% данок да воведат тука истото ке си остане бидејки сме пички невидени.А во Словенија и Хрватска имам пријатели и ми казале дека таму само на уплатата одземаат 2.5% што е ништо за разлика од кај нас(од профитот 10% ти земаат хахахах ова никаде го нема) па замисли сеа за да исплатиш пари треба Грција да одиш...да ти се посерам во дрзавата толку од мене.
Во Словенија за секоја уплата земаат 10 % и 10 % за секоја исплата над 300 евра.
 
Луѓе какви даноци какви бакрачи бе. Зашто осудувате неплаќање на данок ?
Па знаете ли каде тие пари завршуваат. У нормална земја во ред е да плаќаш данок, ама тие пари одат во државна каса за разлика од тука што одат во нечиј џеб. Сосема нормално е да бојкотираш/избегнуваш плаќање на данок овде и треба на големо да се практикува додека на овие од врвот не им дојде памет.

Пример ке ви дадам со патарините. Знаете колку скапи патарини имаме? Од Куманово до Скопје на 30 км дистанца има 2 патарини. Милиони евра се прават а патовите ни се скоро бетер од Афганистан. И за кој јас да плаќам патарина? Некое функционерче да може да му плати луксузно школување, автомобил и одмор на своето дете?
Море ебете се сосе даноците.
 
Ај да прашам нешто.. не е за ујп ама ме интересира за повлекувањето пари на банкомат.

Ако имам картичка од наша банка тука (виза електрон) дали може да вадам пари преку неа во други држави (во друга банка значи) и колкави се провизиите ?
 

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