Склавинија е административен термин и за
првпат е употребен од страна на Византиските императори означувајќи ја Македонската Склавинија во 7-от век.
http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/fcurta/sclavenes1.html
Kurt Horedt (
1951), a German-born
Romanian archaeologist,
first introduced the phrase `
Slavic pottery' into the archaeological jargon of his country.
OCIGLEDNO,MNOGU NASI DEDOVCI SE POSTARI OD SLAVSKATA KERAMIKA PRONAJDENA VO ROMANIJA.TAKA,ROMANIJA PRED 60-NA GODINI STANA POPATNA STANICA NA SLAVSITE
By 1980, the earliest date admitted for the Slavic migration to the lower Danube was either shortly before AD 600 or much later (Teodor 1984a:65).
Nestor...In order to eliminate the apparent contradiction
between historical sources and archaeological evidence, he suggested that
the Slavic raids into the Balkan provinces originated not in Wallachia but in the regions between the Prut and the Dniester, i.e. outside the present-day territory of Romania (Nestor 1961:431; contra S°tefan 1965).
CONCLUSION
Borkovsky 's Prague culture served a purpose very
different from that of the Prague-Zhitomir-Korchak type favored by Soviet archaeologists.
Issues of chronology and interpretation were given
different weight in
Poland, former Yugoslavia, and Romania.
Moreover, `text-driven archaeology' was an approach more often associated with Yugoslav and Bulgarian archaeologists, but not with their Czechoslovak colleagues.
tvojot FLORIN CURTA
Ако е така,тогаш што бараат ѕидините на охридската тврдина ,нацртани во облик на круна на нејзината глава?
tvrdini ima i vo Polska....
Contemporary sources in Greek, such as the second book of the
Miracles of Saint Demetrius used "Sclavenes" as an umbrella-term for a variety of tribal groups (
Drugubites, Sagudates, Belegezites, Berzites, and Rynchines), some of which participated in attacks on the city of
Thessalonica, while others remained on good terms with its inhabitants.
http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/fcurta/sclavenes1.html
The title of this book needs translation. Alexander Avenarius's "Slavs" are not a clearly defined ethnic group, but an
umbrella term for a variety of political and ethnic phenomena ranging from ninth-century Moravia to Kievan Rus'. :nesum:
IZGLEDA,KOGA SE SELELE SLAVSITE MNOGU VRNELO,STOM IMA TOLKU CADORI.
He defines "culture" as the "Gesamtheit vorwiegend künstlerischer und ästhetischer Werte, aber auch verschiedener geistig-intellektueller Aktivitäten," while assuring readers that this is in fact how Hegel, Burckhardt, and Likhachov also defined this concept (p.13). Yet the last three, and for a historian far more interesting, chapters of the book analyze the rise and fall of the Cyrillic-Methodian tradition between the ninth and the twelfth century, and Avenarius ends his book with the paradoxical conclusion that in many cases, the Cyrillic-Methodian tradition became a symbol of Slavic cultural autonomy, if not independence, against the growing power of "transnational cultures," such as that of Byzantium. Old Church Slavonic became the basis on which a new form of pan-Slavic identity emerged by the twelfth century, as expressed in Bohemia by Christian and in Rus' by Nestor (pp.214-5).
FLORIN CURTA
The Slavs, in other words, did not come from the north, but became Slavs only in contact with the Roman frontier.....FLORIN CURTA
А во Арапските земји дел од Средоземното подрачје, терминот Саклаб со кој ги нарекувале Словените е преземен од старогрчкиот назив - склаби - и затоа кај нив се задржала буквата бета во првобитното значење - “Б“- читајќи се САКЛАБ/САКАЛАБИ и означувал - РУСОКОС.
Според Пан-Славистите,кои ги цитираат "врвните сведоци" од средновековието-рано,сите Славси биле РУСОКОСИ,СИТЕ ДО ЕДЕН.
И ТИЕ ВО СКЛАВИНИЈА.
Arno ama,ne go citiraat Fredegar koj zapisal:
Every year, the Huns wintered :back: with the Slavs, sleeping with their wives and daughters:nesvest:, and in addition the Slavs paid tribute and endured many other burdens.
The sons born to the Huns by the Slavs' wives and daughters :kesa:eventually found this shameful :kesa
ppression intolerable; and so, as I said, they refused to obey their lords and started to rise in rebellion.
opa,PLAVKOVCI-PALAVKOVCI
Moreover,
there is no evidence that Fredegar ever read Jordanes.
He most probably took his ethnic terminology
from another source.
Obicno,vo Azija,ako si napraven od Hun,verojatno bi bil ZOLT I SO KOSI OCI.
No,vo Sklavinija i Karpatija,poradi opravdani pricini na pan-slavizmot,ako si napraven od HUN,se ragale se PLAVOKOSI LUGE-SLAVSI.
VO KAKVI SAMO GLUPOSTI VERUVAAT PAN-SLAVSITE...
Според Флорин Курта, името “Склавени“ бил политички термин, со кој Римјаните-Византијците сакале да ги означат политичките и воени промени.
Spored
Florin Curta:
Fredegar...Slavs;
Dulebians;the Slavs were not the same as
Wends;The latter's name is usually interpreted as deriving from
Jordanes' Venethi; Sclaui, such as Esclavi or Sclavini, but also
for Winidi, such as Winodi, Winedi, or Venedi;the Wends, not the Slavs, made Samo their king;here is a Wendish gens, but not a Slavic one; Perhaps `Wends' and `Sclavenes' are meant to denote a speci¢c social and political configuration, in which such concepts as `state' or `ethnicity' are relevant,
while `Slavs' is a more general term, used in a territorial rather than an ethnic;
sense; Samo as a merchant went in Sclauos to do business,...
Dulebians :pos2:....sto mu fali na toa ime,zosto slavsi?
tie se mnozele so Avarite...i nasil'e tvoriakhu zhenam' Dule p'skim...
em slavsi,em huni,em avari....falat uste blgarite
pa da bideme kompletni.....
i malku povedra tema....
UPRAVDA MAKEDONECOT GO ZABRANIL KOINE JAZIKOT I TOJ NE SE UPOTREBUVAL NEKOLKU VEKOVI.
SEKAKVA SPOREDBA SO KOINE (BOZEM GEJSKI) ZA TOJ PERIOD E SMESNA.
SITE PISUVALE NA-LATINSKI.....
