OSHO

[Muranyi]

Духовноста е во конфликт со материјалноста и различниот морал само во христијанството и религиите слични на нему. Само во нивниот светоглед материјалната благосостојба е пречка за духовен развој, што е очигледна глупост.
Автомобилите или било кој останат имот, ниту се пречка ниту предност за да се напредува на тоа поле.
Е сега секако дека на тој пат е потребно да се искусат различни ситуации, но секој човек е уникатен а со тоа и начините за секого се различни и уникатни.

Не го знаев тоа.Фактот дека сум воспитан во духот на Православието си го прави своето

 

[OSHO-Lover]

Абе ти прочита ли што напишав?Или и генот за разбирање на работите кај тебе е оштетен?
--- надополнето: 23 јуни 2012 во 10:46 ---

Немам намера да читам за луѓе кои наводно глумат духовност а си го возат гзаот во 36 Ролс-Ројса.Лицемерие.

Еј немал 36 имал над 90 ролс ројса а се планирало да се купат 365 по еден за секој ден од годината, а инаку не глумел ништо човекот и не збори кога не си запознаен не за друго напразно ти е муабетов
--- надополнето: 24 јуни 2012 во 15:22 ---

ем немаш читано источњаци ем збориш за его, на пример о9шо вели дека его нема, илузуја е тоа..и што е до плафон, НИШТОТО

Абе кој рекол дека нема его бре, не си сватил што му значи тоа илузија, не дека нема туку дека нема реална основа за неговото постоење туку е артифишл создадено од општеството и дека не треба да се дозволи да ти го диктира животот со тоа што ќе се идентификуваш дека егото си ти, така да не збори ако не си разбрал молим те некој ке помисли стварно таква глупост кажал дека не постои его ти се молам

 

[Muranyi]

Еј немал 36 имал над 90 ролс ројса а се планирало да се купат 365 по еден за секој ден од годината, а инаку не глумел ништо човекот и не збори кога не си запознаен не за друго напразно ти е муабетов

Во право си,не знам ништо за него.Еве благодарение на Само човек имам цела збирка од негови книги со кои ќе се позанимавам летово.Сепак,самата помисла дека се работи за мегаломански каприци во облик на 365 Ролс-ројса и духовност некако не ми одат заедно.Можеби тоа е производ на моето предодредено мислење,формирано од учењето на Христијанството кога се работи за скромноста.

 

[OSHO-Lover]

Pardon moja greshka...tocno e deka se nad 90.
Mamurliv sum od sabajle pa zatoa.
Osho ja pratil sekretarkata da pobara kredit od edna banka za da ide i da ja kupi najskapata kola vo toa vreme. Bankata go odbila i i rekol da ja kupi so gotovi pari. Otvoril smetka vo druga banka i koga starata videla kolku pari vnesol go molela da se vrati kaj niv.
Koga ja probal kolata Osho odma poracal ushte 36 za sekoj negov sanjashin po edna.
Jak e Osho.

Извини но мислам дека си во грешка имам за ова гледано еден документарец и беше нешто вака, кога сакале да одат во Америка да направат град им требале многу пари нормално, но банкита не им давале бидејки било огромна цифра и не биле сигурни дека ќе ги вратат затоа Ошо и кажал да купи таквак скапа кола иако сите пари им отишле во таа кола(доста нелогично на прв поглед но си земал добар ризик) и со истата кола на неговото зборење пред доста луѓе намерно викнале новинари за да го сликаат и да го има како искача од таква кола, е на финтава наседнала банката кога видела во каква кола се вози човеков и колку луѓе му доаѓаат на зборењата одма одобрила кредит. Мислам дека ваква беше прикаската колку што се сеќавам можда и грешам ако го најдам клипот ќе го постирам, а за ролсовите он не ги купувал за неговите санјасини туку тие му ги поклонувале него а уствари он не ги ни користел.
--- надополнето: 24 јуни 2012 во 15:34 ---

Исти ку.ац како нашиве попови е.Не му го знам учењето и што поточно збори,ај ми даде линк ќе прочитам некоја книга од него,ама да ми го дрви за спиритуалност додека си го лади во Ројс-ројс-не благодарам,преку глава од такви преваранти.

Колку не е како нашиве попови ај прочитај нешто па ке праиме муабет

 

[Само Човек]

Абе кој рекол дека нема его бре, не си сватил што му значи тоа илузија, не дека нема туку дека нема реална основа за неговото постоење туку е артифишл создадено од општеството и дека не треба да се дозволи да ти го диктира животот со тоа што ќе се идентификуваш дека егото си ти, така да не збори ако не си разбрал молим те некој ке помисли стварно таква глупост кажал дека не постои его ти се молам

епа човекот се раѓа со едно его , со ја, единствено едно непроменливо е после се се сјебува... имаш ега , на пример на доктор, директор, ...
и своето ја го заменува со илузија...
јас му одговорив дека го немам егото како што тој го замиослува, членот...егото до плафон вели
сум го разбрал не берим гајле

 

[Gurdjieff]

Извини но мислам дека си во грешка имам за ова гледано еден документарец и беше нешто вака, кога сакале да одат во Америка да направат град им требале многу пари нормално, но банкита не им давале бидејки било огромна цифра и не биле сигурни дека ќе ги вратат затоа Ошо и кажал да купи таквак скапа кола иако сите пари им отишле во таа кола(доста нелогично на прв поглед но си земал добар ризик) и со истата кола на неговото зборење пред доста луѓе намерно викнале новинари за да го сликаат и да го има како искача од таква кола, е на финтава наседнала банката кога видела во каква кола се вози човеков и колку луѓе му доаѓаат на зборењата одма одобрила кредит. Мислам дека ваква беше прикаската колку што се сеќавам можда и грешам ако го најдам клипот ќе го постирам, а за ролсовите он не ги купувал за неговите санјасини туку тие му ги поклонувале него а уствари он не ги ни користел.
--- надополнето: 24 јуни 2012 во 15:34 ---

Колку не е како нашиве попови ај прочитај нешто па ке праиме муабет

ne be brat....prvata kola ja kupuva so gotovi pari, potoa kupuva ushte 36 za svoite sanjashini...drugite mu gi poklonuvaat.
Vo amerika ima otideno so negov avion....doma kaseta imam.
Negovata sekretarka bega so 42 000 000 dolari.
a i vo avtobiagrafijata kazuva za bankite.... toa shto go kazav vo predhodniot post

 

[OSHO-Lover]

ne be brat....prvata kola ja kupuva so gotovi pari, potoa kupuva ushte 36 za svoite sanjashini...drugite mu gi poklonuvaat.
Vo amerika ima otideno so negov avion....doma kaseta imam.
Negovata sekretarka bega so 42 000 000 dolari.
a i vo avtobiagrafijata kazuva za bankite.... toa shto go kazav vo predhodniot post

Може е така, али не е ни битно

 

[OSHO-Lover]

"Always remember, whatsoever I say to you, you can take it in two ways. You can simply take it on my authority, 'Because Osho says so, it must be true' – then you will suffer, then you will not grow. Whatsoever I say, listen to it, try to understand it, implement it in your life, see how it works, and then come to your own conclusions. They may be the same, they may not be. They can never be exactly the same because you have a different personality, a unique being. Whatsoever I am saying is my own. It is bound to be in deep ways rooted in me. You may come to similar conclusions, but they cannot be exactly the same. So my conclusions should not be made your conclusions. You should try to understand me, you should try to learn, but you should not collect knowledge from me, you should not collect conclusions from me. Then your mind-body will grow."

"My message is not a doctrine, not a philosophy. My message is a certain alchemy, a science of transformation."

...Osho...

 

[OSHO-Lover]

My whole love and respect is for the person who accepts himself totally, as he is. He has courage. He has courage to face the whole pressure of the society which is bent upon splitting him into divisions — into good and bad, into saint and sinner. He is really a brave, courageous being who stands against the whole history of man, of morality, and declares to the skies his reality, whatever it is.

OSHO
--- надополнето: 25 јуни 2012 во 23:42 ---
When death knocks at your door, all your certainties will be simply riddles and foolish. Don’t cling to any certainty. Life is uncertain — its very nature is uncertain. And an intelligent man always remains uncertain. This very readiness to remain in uncertainty is courage. This very readiness to be in uncertainty is trust. An intelligent person is one who remains alert whatsoever the situation — and responds to it with his whole heart. Not that he knows what is going to happen; not that he knows that ‘do this’ and ‘that will happen’. Life is not a science; it is not a cause and effect chain. Heat the water to a hundred degrees and it evaporates — it is a certainty. But like that, in real life, nothing is certain.

 

[OSHO-Lover]

 

[OSHO-Lover]

PYTHAGORAS IS THE FIRST EXPERIMENT in creating a synthesis. Twenty-five centuries have
passed since then and nobody else has tried it again. Nobody else before had done it, and nobody
else has done it afterwards either. It needs a mind which is both – scientific and mystic. It is a rare
phenomenon. It happens once in a while.
There have been great mystics – Buddha, Lao Tzu, Zarathustra. And there has been great scientists
– Newton, Edison, Einstein. But to find a man who is at home with both worlds, easily at home, is
very difficult. Pythagoras is that kind of man – a class unto himself. He cannot be categorized by
anybody else.
The synthesis that he tried was needed, particularly in his days, as it is needed today – because the
world is again at the same point. The world moves in a wheel. The Sanskrit word for ’the world’ is
SAMSARA. SAMSARA means the wheel. The wheel is big: one circle is completed in twenty-five
centuries. Twenty-five centuries before Pythagoras, Atlantis committed suicide – out of man’s own
scientific growth. But without wisdom, scientific growth is dangerous. It is putting a sword in the
hands of a child.
Now twenty-five centuries have passed since Pythagoras. Again the world is in a chaos. Again the
wheel has come to the same point – it always comes to the same point. It takes twenty-five centuries
for this moment to happen. After each twenty-five centuries the world comes into a state of great
chaos.
Man becomes uprooted, starts feeling meaningless. All the values of life disappear. A great
darkness surrounds. Sense of direction is lost. One simply feels accidental. There seems to be
no purpose, no significance. Life seems to be just a by-product of chance. It seems existence does
not care for you. It seems there is no life after death. It seems whatsoever you do is futile, routine,
mechanical. All seems to be pointless.
These times of chaos, disorder, can either be a great curse, as it happened in Atlantis, or they can
prove a quantum leap in human growth. It depends on how we use them. It is only in such great
times of chaos that great stars are born.
Pythagoras was not alone. In Greece, Pythagoras and Heraclitus were born. In India, Buddha and
Mahavira and many others. In China, Lao Tzu, Chuang Tzu, Confucius, Mencius, Lieh Tzu, and
many more. In Iran, Zarathustra. In the brahmin tradition, many great Upanishadic seers. In the
world of Judaism, Moses.... All these people, these great Masters were born at a certain stage in
human history – twenty-five centuries ago.
Now we are again in a great chaos, and man’s fate will depend on what we do. Either we will
destroy ourselves like the civilization that destroyed itself in Atlantis – the whole world will become
a Hiroshima; we will be drowned in our own knowledge; in our own science we will commit suicide,
a collective suicide. A few, a Noah and a few of his followers, may be saved, or may not be.... Or,
there is a possibility that we can take a quantum leap.
Either man can commit suicide, or man can be reborn. Both doors are open.
If such times can create people like Heraclitus and Lao Tzu and Zarathustra and Pythagoras and
Buddha and Confucius, why can they not create a great humanity? They can. But we go on missing
the opportunity.
The ordinary masses live in such unconsciousness that they can’t see even a few steps ahead. They
are blind. And they are the majority! The coming twenty-five years, the last part of this century, is
going to be of IMMENSE value. If we can create a great momentum in the world for meditation, for
the inward journey, for tranquillity, for stillness, for love, for God... if we can create a space in these
coming twenty-five years for God to happen to many many people, humanity will have a new birth,
a resurrection. A new man will be born.
And once you miss THESE times, then for twenty-five centuries again you will remain the same. A
few people will achieve enlightenment, but it will remain only for a few people. Here and there, once
in a while, a person will become alert and aware and divine. But the greater part of humanity goes
on lagging behind – in darkness, in utter darkness, in absolute misery. The greater part of humanity
goes on living in hell.
But these moments when chaos spreads and man loses his roots in the past, becomes unhinged
from the past, are great moments. If we can learn something from the past history, if we can learn
something from Pythagoras.... People could not use Pythagoras and his understanding, they could
not use his great synthesis, they could not use the doors that he had made available. A single
individual had done something immense, something impossible, but it was not used.
I am trying to do exactly the same again; I feel a very deep spiritual affinity with Pythagoras. I am
also bringing you a synthesis of East and West, of science and religion, of intellect and intuition, of
the male mind and the female mind, of the head and the heart, of the right and the left. I am also
trying in every possible way to create a great harmony, because only that harmony can save. Only
that harmony can give you a new birth.
But there is every possibility that what was done to Pythagoras will be done to me. And there is
every possibility what was done to Pythagoras’ followers will be done to my sannyasins. But still,
even knowing that possibility, the effort has to be made again. Because this is a valuable time. It
comes only once in twenty-five centuries when the wheel can move in a new way, can take a new
direction.
You all have to risk, and you have to risk all that you have. And risk it with great joy! because what
can be more joyous than to give birth to a new man, to become vehicles for a new man, for a new
humanity?
It is going to be painful as every birth is painful. But the pain can be welcomed if you understand
what is going to happen through it. If you can see the child coming out of it, then the pain is no more
pain – just as the mother can accept the pain of the child’s birth. The pain is irrelevant: her heart is
dancing with joy – she is going to give birth to life, she is being creative. She is making this world
more alive; a new child is being born through her. God has used her as a vehicle; her womb has
proved fertile. She is happy, in great joy. She rejoices, although the pain is there on the periphery.
But when this great joy is there, the pain simply functions as a background and makes the joy even
more loud. Remember...
My sannyasins can become an energy womb, an energy field. A great synthesis is happening here.
East and West ARE meeting here. And if we can make this impossible thing happen, man will live in
a totally different way in the future. He will not need to live in the same old hell. Man can live in love,
in peace. Man can live in great friendliness. Man can live a life which is nothing but a celebration.
Man can make this earth divine.
Yes: this very earth can become the paradise and this very body the Buddha.
Osho - Philosophia Perennis, Vol. 1

 

[OSHO-Lover]

IF THOU CANST AT LEAST: FOR A MOST RIGID LAW BINDS POWER TO NECESSITY.

PYTHAGORAS says there are two laws: one is of necessity. the other is of power. The law of
necessity applies to people who are unconscious. People who live mechanically, they live out of
necessity. There is another law higher than necessity: the law of power. The more conscious you
become, the more you go out of necessity, you transcend necessity, you start living out of power,
out of abundant power. Then your life is not of necessity.
For example: a person speaks out of necessity because he cannot resist the temptation to speak.
Buddhas also speak, but with no necessity: it is out of power, out of abundant power They are silent;
there is no temptation, no obsession to speak. They can remain silent for ever. But still they speak.
If they speak. they speak out of power.
You love out of necessity. Buddhas also love – they love out of... so much energy is there that it has
to be shared. So much power is happening, it has to be given. You live out of necessity, they live
out of power.
Buddhas are the greatest luxury in existence.
These two laws are rooted in one primordial law. They are part of one law, two aspects of one law.
In China that law is called TAO, in India that law is called DHAMMA, in Greece that law is called
LOGOS, Jews have called it TORAH. It is the SAME law.
The whole existence is based in one law, but that law has two aspects. One aspect for those who are
unconscious – they live like slaves, robots. And another aspect of freedom, of power, of immense
joy – that aspect happens only when you are awakened, enlightened. And to have these two laws
harmoniously adjusted in your life is the basic message of Pythagoras.
When these two laws are in harmony, you are in harmony. When these two laws are in harmony,
then your body follows the law of necessity and your soul follows the law of power. Then your mind
follows the law of necessity, and your heart follows the law of power. Then you are a meeting of the
sky and the earth, body and soul, the visible and the invisible. And that’s what Buddhahood is, that’s
what enlightenment is.

Osho - Philosophia Perennis, Vol. 1
--- надополнето: 27 јуни 2012 во 08:22 ---
OSHO,
MEMORY CAN’T RECALL YOUR FACE,
SO LOVE COMES, FACELESS.
UNFAMILIAR IS THE PART OF ME
THAT LOVES YOU.
SHE HAS NO NAME,
AND SHE COMES AND GOES
AND WHEN GONE,
I WIPE MY TEAR-STAINED FACE
SO THAT IT REMAINS A SECRET.

Dharma Chetana,
LOVE IS A MYSTERY – the greatest mystery there is. It can be lived, but it cannot be known;
it can be tasted, experienced, but cannot be understood. It is something beyond understanding,
something that surpasses all understanding.
Hence mind cannot take any note of it. It never becomes a memory – memory is nothing but notes
taken by the mind; memory is traces, footprints left in the mind. Love has no body, it is bodiless. It
leaves no footprints.
In Indian mythology, the god of love is known as Anang – ANANG means without body. All other
gods have bodies except the love god – he has no body. He comes... he goes... you cannot see
him, you cannot hear the sound of his approach. There is nothing visible about it, but still it is felt,
still it is lived.
Love has no face. It is utter formlessness. You will never be able to see love; it is not tangible. And
the higher it is, the more invisible it becomes; at the highest peak it is a pure nothingness. And
remember that love is a ladder from the lowest to the highest, from the earth to the sky.
The earthly love has a certain face; it is not the face of love, but the earthly form gives it a face – you
can recognize it. The lowest form has a certain tangibility about it imparted by the earthly. But as
you rise higher and higher in love – and the ultimate is prayer – then all tangibility disappears. And
when you for the first time feel love AS prayer, love as pure sky, uncontaminated by any form, then
certainly the other experience will arise: that it is felt by something in you which is not known to you.
It is felt by your superconscious.
Sex is unconscious, earthly, the lowest form of love. Love is conscious, higher than sex, just midway,
a stopping station between the earth and the sky. It is more poetic, but still the poetry is definable,
it is contained in the words. The highest form of love is prayer; it is no more expressible, it is
not contained any more in any definition. No words are adequate enough to express it – it is
inexpressible. And when the highest is felt, you can express it only through tears – or laughter,
or dance – very indirectly. And when the highest is felt, it provokes the highest in you: it is felt by the
superconscious.
These are the three stages of the mind: unconscious, conscious, superconscious. Unconscious is
material, super-conscious is immaterial, and conscious is just midway. If you fall backwards, it is sex
that goes on in the name of love; it is ninety-nine percent not love – only one percent love. What we
call love is fifty percent love and fifty percent something else. And what we call prayer is ninety-nine
percent love, only one percent something else.
And in the ultimate stage, love even transcends prayer – then it is pure silence. Then there are no
more tears, no more dance, no more singing... all has disappeared. One simply is.
As your love grows you will come to understand many things in your being which have remained
unknown to you. Love will provoke higher realms in you, and you will feel yourself very strange.
So, Chetana, you are right. You say:
MEMORY CAN ’T RECALL YOUR FACE,
SO LOVE COMES, FACELESS.
UNFAMILIAR IS THE PART OF ME
THAT LOVES YOU.
SHE HAS NO NAME,
AND SHE COMES AND GOES
AND WHEN GONE,
I WIPE MY TEAR-STAINED FACE
SO THAT IT REMAINS A SECRET.
Your love is entering into the world of prayer. It is tremendously significant, because beyond prayer
there is only God. Prayer is the last rung of the ladder of love. Once you have stepped beyond that,
it is nirvana, it is liberation.

 

[Lord Raven]

Drop guilt! - because to be guilty is to live in hell.​

Not being guilty, you will have the freshness​

of dewdrops in the early morning sun,​

you will have the freshness of lotus petals in the lake,​

you will have the freshness of the stars in the night.​

Once guilt disappears you will have​

a totally different kind of life, luminous and radiant.​

You will have a dance to your feet​

and your heart will be singing a thousand and one songs.​

- Osho​

 

[OSHO-Lover]

Еве нешто од Hsin Hsin MIng

EMPTINESS HERE, EMPTINESS THERE, BUT THE INFINITE UNIVERSE STANDS ALWAYS
BEFORE YOUR EYES.
INFINITELY LARGE AND INFINITELY SMALL; NO DIFFERENCE, FOR DEFINITIONS HAVE
VANISHED AND NO BOUNDARIES ARE SEEN.
SO TOO WITH BEING AND NON-BEING.
DON’T WASTE TIME IN DOUBTS AND ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
ONE THING, ALL THINGS: MOVE AMONG AND INTERMINGLE, WITHOUT DISTINCTION.
TO LIVE IN THIS REALIZATION IS TO BE WITHOUT ANXIETY ABOUT NON-PERFECTION.
TO LIVE IN THIS FAITH IS THE ROAD TO NON-DUALITY, BECAUSE THE NON-DUAL IS ONE
WITH THE TRUSTING MIND.
WORDS!
THE WAY IS BEYOND LANGUAGE, FOR IN IT THERE IS
NO YESTERDAY
NO TOMORROW
NO TODAY.

 

[Gurdjieff]

Eve neshto za Osho.
Bil profesor po filozofija i na negovite casovi anfiteatarot sekogash bil pol. Doshol eden od profesorite kaj nego da mu se zali, "kako e mozno na moite casovi da nema ni 10% od studentite, a kaj tebe sekogash e poln anfiteatarot"
Osho na negovite casovi nikogash ne ja predaval materjata shto bila vo programata, sekogash velel na studentite deka bilo koj moze da sedne i da ja nauci materjata napamet. Koga bil ispitot sekogash sedel so grp zavrten i im velel deka koj saka moze da prepishuva, negovo si e dali ke go nauci i razbere ili samo ke prepishe.Sekogash drzel predavanje za smislata na zivotot i vodel konverzacija so studentite za da razberat.