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he..he...te nadenav a?...Toa e pile svojstveno i za laznite makedoncinja
Osven kopi-pejst od po drugi forumi. Neshto tvoe da kazish?
Slabo.... Znam... Ne ti raboti tutkata...
Македонци, илири, траки, фрегаси...
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Gegar
Gege
Gegechel'
Gegechkari
Gegechkori
Gegechol'
Gegedzhyai
Gegedzhyay
Gegele
http://www.gegamavan.european-map-graphics.co.uk/
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dali bratucetkati ti e I .. nemoj da kazes deka..ne(so 2 tocki)..ne(so 2 tocki)?...
Gegar
Gege
Gegechel'
Gegechkari
Gegechkori
Gegechol'
Gegedzhyai
Gegedzhyay
Gegele
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GEGI (LAZNI ILIRI-VISTINSKI KAVKAZKI DECA)
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vistinskiot Pyrrhus lafel vaka..
lazniot Pyrrhus lafi vaka..
Gjuha shqipe..Located in Tiflis (KAVKAZ), Russia
Pra, з’e dallon Fjalorin tuaj nga ata qл ka botuar Akademia e Shkencave e Tiranлs mл 1980 e mл 2002?
bre..bre..100 % indoevropski,koj osven laznite iliri,nieden indo-evropeec vrska nema od nego...
za laznite iliri,eve sto e IE jazik...
Bhilai -- city latitude 24 North, longitude 32 East. (vo Indija)
This is the city of the Bhils.
The Bhil Brahmins, Bhil prince was known as Bhil-Pos.
This is the Philipos of Macedonia.
His son, Alexander The Great, claimed descent from Hammon.(coincidence?)
Претпоставувам, имаш текст на кој Пирро зборувал на мајчин јазик, не би било лошо да го видиме и за да споредиш текст на 3 јазика треба сите 3 јазика да ги знаеш ... или само претпоставуваш дека Пирро ги употребувал овие зборови ???
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Ne neshto tvoe nema?
Dosaden si be pile so edni isto, samo menjash boldirano.
Ja ti vikam nemash tolkav potencijal, ti ushte uporen i uporen kako prle pred magarica.
Brao za madinja go drzish i vikash zensko e.
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Pyrrhus of Epirus (1)
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Relief of a Greek warrior from[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Tarente, first quarter of the third[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]century (Allard Pierson[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Museum, Amsterdam) [/SIZE][/FONT] Pyrrhus (319/318-272): king of Epirus (306-302 and 297-272) and Macedonia (288-284 and 273-272), well-known for his war against the Romans.
Epirus
From a classical Greek point of view, the northwest was inhabited by a bunch of barbarian tribes, in which the fifth-century sources are nor really interested. They contradict each other about which nations could be classified as western Greeks, Epirotes, or Illyrians. It does not really help us that the tribes did not leave behind written texts. Several sanctuaries, like Dodona, appear to have been hellenized quite early, but the people of the northwest retained several very archaic traits. Several tribes were led by kings, something that was very unusual in the Greek world. On the other hand, the nearby Macedonians shared some of these characteristics. Like Macedonia, Epirus became a unified monarchy in the course of the fourth century. The tribe of the Molossians (in the interior) joined forces with the Thesprotians and the Chaones, and a more powerful state started to develop, with a king (Neoptolemus I), magistrates, coinage, a court, an assembly of tribal delegates, and a close alliance with king Philip of Macedonia. Supported by this powerful ruler, the unified Epirotes attacked and captured the Greek cities in the west. From now on, they had access to the sea. Urbanization started. The Molossian dynasty was sufficiently hellenized to claim descent from the the homeric hero Achilles.
King Alexander of Molossis, a contemporary of Alexander the Great, commanded an excellent army and was considered to be civilized enough to be invited to support the Greek colonies in southern Italy. He seriously weakened the native Italian tribes, but was murdered after a defeat. His ally, Rome, benefited: it overcame the Italian tribes and started to unify Italy. Sooner or later, the Greek cities in southern Italy would have to face this new power.
In 330, Alexander was succeeded by his relative Aeacides, who incurred the wrath of the Macedonian leader Cassander. In c.317 he organized a coup among the Molossians and put Neoptolemus II on the throne. After several difficult adventures, Aeacides' relatives found refuge at the court of another local king, Glaucias the Taulantian. He protected the Molossian royals and adopted Aeacides' baby son Pyrrhus.
The young king
Pyrrhus was born in 319/318 as the son of Aeacides and a Greek lady from Thessaly named Phthia, the daughter of a hero in the War of Greek liberation against the Macedonians (the "Lamian war"). The young boy grew up at the Taulantian court and was twelve when Glaucias made him king (306). It was obvious that Pyrrhus was to be some sort of puppet, and there was opposition among the Molossians. So when Pyrrhus visited his adoptive father to attend a wedding, his subjects revolted, plundered his property, and invited Neoptolemus II again (302). It seems likely that Cassander was behind the insurrection.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Demetrius with bull's horns,[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]the symbol of the sea-god[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Poseidon. Antikensammlung,[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Berlin; ©**)[/SIZE][/FONT]
However, Pyrrhus was not without support. In 307, the Fourth Diadoch War had broken out. Among the Successors of Alexander the Great, there was a commander named Antigonus Monophthalmus who attempted to restore the unity of the empire. He was opposed by men like Cassander of Macedonia, Seleucus of Babylonia, and Ptolemy of Egypt, who were attempting to gain independence. Antigonus' son Demetrius had invaded Greece, and Glaucias had allied himself to the enemy of his own enemy, Cassander. The alliance had been cemented by a marriage: Glaucias had given Pyrrhus' sister Deidamia to Demetrius as his bride. In other words, Pyrrhus and Demetrius were brothers-in-law. And Demetrius could use the young man against Cassander.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Seleucus I Nicator[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2](Louvre, Paris)[/SIZE][/FONT]
For the time being, he needed Pyrrhus in what is now western Turkey, where the great decisive battle between on the one hand king Antigonus and Demetrius and on the other hand the members of the coalition was fought at Ipsus (301). Pyrrhus fought bravely, but ultimately, the five hundred war elephants of Seleucus won the battle. Antigonus was killed in action and his son had to flee. However, Demetrius still possessed a large navy and had garrisons in the cities of Greece, where Pyrrhus may briefly have served as one of the governors of his brother-in-law. But not for a long time. In the negotiations that started after the battle of Ipsus, Demetrius agreed to hand over to his opponent Ptolemy of Egypt his wife's brother as a hostage. In Antiquity, this was a very common diplomatic practice: hostages ensured that the opposing sides would keep their promises.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Ptolemy I Soter[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2](Ny Carlsberg Glyptoteket, [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Kшbenhavn; ©!!!)[/SIZE][/FONT]
In 300 or 299 Pyrrhus, not yet twenty, arrived in Alexandria, the Greek-style capital of the ancient country of the Nile, and it appears that pharaoh Ptolemy really liked the valiant young man, who gave proof of his strength and courage during hunting parties and other exercises. Ptolemy's stepdaughter Antigone became Pyrrhus' bride. (She was the daughter of Berenice I, who had once been married to an otherwise unknown man named Philip and was later married to Ptolemy.) Pyrrhus' biographer Plutarch of Chaeronea remarks that the Molossian leader "had a particular art of gaining over the great ones to his own interest", and this appears to be true. On the other hand, the great ones knew how to use Pyrrhus. In 297, Ptolemy financed a new coup in Epirus -the fourth one during Pyrrhus' life- and sent the Molossian leader with an army of mercenaries back to Epirus. Pyrrhus played his cards carefully. He announced that he would share power with Neoptolemus, who believed the promises of the man who was, after all, his relative. Pyrrhus became king of the Molossians and leader of the Epirote confederacy for the second time, and acted as Ptolemy's watchdog in Europe, guarding the Egyptian interests against Cassander of Macedonia.
From now on, Pyrrhus started to embark upon larger projects. In 295, he killed Neoptolemus during a banquet and was able to make his people believe that his colleague had been disloyal. He had now secured his rear, and went for the big prize: the Macedonian kingship. In 298, Cassander had died, leaving the throne to his son Philip IV, who died within two months (of natural causes). His two brothers now divided the kingdom: Antipater received the western and Alexander V the eastern half (the river Axios being the border). As was to be expected, they immediately started to quarrel. Alexander felt threatened, and invited Demetrius and Pyrrhus to come to his assistance. Pyrrhus invaded Macedonia in 294 and restored the balance of power between the two brothers. As a quid pro quo, Pyrrhus was to receive a part of Molossis that had been conquered by Philip II of Macedonia, and the city of Ambracia (modern Arta). This was to become Pyrrhus' capital: a city with access to the sea that was neither Molossian, nor Thesprotian or Chaonian.
Pyrrhus may have had greater designs, but for the time being, he had to be content, because now Demetrius arrived. King Alexander went out to greet him and thank him (for nothing), and was killed by Demetrius during a banquet - a repeat of Pyrrhus' treatment of Neoptolemus. Almost immediately, the Macedonian army proclaimed Demetrius king (text). He went on to attack the second brother, Antipater, who fled and never returned. Demetrius was the new Macedonian king.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Agathocles (Kunsthistorisches[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Museum, Wien)[/SIZE][/FONT]
Meanwhile, Pyrrhus' wife Antigone had died, and the king of Epirus remarried to three other women. His first bride was a Greek lady named Lanassa, and her dowry consisted of the islands of Leucas and Corcyra (modern Corfu). She was the daughter of Agathocles, the king of Syracuse on Sicily. Pyrrhus also married a daughter of king Audoleon of the Paeonians (north of Macedonia), and Bircenna, the daughter of the leader of the Illyrians, Bardyllis. Through marriage ties, Epirus was now at peace with all its neighbors - after all, the new king of Macedonia, Demetrius, was married to Pyrrhus' sister.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Relief of a Greek warrior from[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Tarente, first quarter of the third[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]century (Allard Pierson[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Museum, Amsterdam) [/SIZE][/FONT] Pyrrhus (319/318-272): king of Epirus (306-302 and 297-272) and Macedonia (288-284 and 273-272), well-known for his war against the Romans.
Epirus
From a classical Greek point of view, the northwest was inhabited by a bunch of barbarian tribes, in which the fifth-century sources are nor really interested. They contradict each other about which nations could be classified as western Greeks, Epirotes, or Illyrians. It does not really help us that the tribes did not leave behind written texts. Several sanctuaries, like Dodona, appear to have been hellenized quite early, but the people of the northwest retained several very archaic traits. Several tribes were led by kings, something that was very unusual in the Greek world. On the other hand, the nearby Macedonians shared some of these characteristics. Like Macedonia, Epirus became a unified monarchy in the course of the fourth century. The tribe of the Molossians (in the interior) joined forces with the Thesprotians and the Chaones, and a more powerful state started to develop, with a king (Neoptolemus I), magistrates, coinage, a court, an assembly of tribal delegates, and a close alliance with king Philip of Macedonia. Supported by this powerful ruler, the unified Epirotes attacked and captured the Greek cities in the west. From now on, they had access to the sea. Urbanization started. The Molossian dynasty was sufficiently hellenized to claim descent from the the homeric hero Achilles.
King Alexander of Molossis, a contemporary of Alexander the Great, commanded an excellent army and was considered to be civilized enough to be invited to support the Greek colonies in southern Italy. He seriously weakened the native Italian tribes, but was murdered after a defeat. His ally, Rome, benefited: it overcame the Italian tribes and started to unify Italy. Sooner or later, the Greek cities in southern Italy would have to face this new power.
In 330, Alexander was succeeded by his relative Aeacides, who incurred the wrath of the Macedonian leader Cassander. In c.317 he organized a coup among the Molossians and put Neoptolemus II on the throne. After several difficult adventures, Aeacides' relatives found refuge at the court of another local king, Glaucias the Taulantian. He protected the Molossian royals and adopted Aeacides' baby son Pyrrhus.
The young king
Pyrrhus was born in 319/318 as the son of Aeacides and a Greek lady from Thessaly named Phthia, the daughter of a hero in the War of Greek liberation against the Macedonians (the "Lamian war"). The young boy grew up at the Taulantian court and was twelve when Glaucias made him king (306). It was obvious that Pyrrhus was to be some sort of puppet, and there was opposition among the Molossians. So when Pyrrhus visited his adoptive father to attend a wedding, his subjects revolted, plundered his property, and invited Neoptolemus II again (302). It seems likely that Cassander was behind the insurrection.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Demetrius with bull's horns,[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]the symbol of the sea-god[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Poseidon. Antikensammlung,[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Berlin; ©**)[/SIZE][/FONT]
However, Pyrrhus was not without support. In 307, the Fourth Diadoch War had broken out. Among the Successors of Alexander the Great, there was a commander named Antigonus Monophthalmus who attempted to restore the unity of the empire. He was opposed by men like Cassander of Macedonia, Seleucus of Babylonia, and Ptolemy of Egypt, who were attempting to gain independence. Antigonus' son Demetrius had invaded Greece, and Glaucias had allied himself to the enemy of his own enemy, Cassander. The alliance had been cemented by a marriage: Glaucias had given Pyrrhus' sister Deidamia to Demetrius as his bride. In other words, Pyrrhus and Demetrius were brothers-in-law. And Demetrius could use the young man against Cassander.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Seleucus I Nicator[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2](Louvre, Paris)[/SIZE][/FONT]
For the time being, he needed Pyrrhus in what is now western Turkey, where the great decisive battle between on the one hand king Antigonus and Demetrius and on the other hand the members of the coalition was fought at Ipsus (301). Pyrrhus fought bravely, but ultimately, the five hundred war elephants of Seleucus won the battle. Antigonus was killed in action and his son had to flee. However, Demetrius still possessed a large navy and had garrisons in the cities of Greece, where Pyrrhus may briefly have served as one of the governors of his brother-in-law. But not for a long time. In the negotiations that started after the battle of Ipsus, Demetrius agreed to hand over to his opponent Ptolemy of Egypt his wife's brother as a hostage. In Antiquity, this was a very common diplomatic practice: hostages ensured that the opposing sides would keep their promises.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2](Ny Carlsberg Glyptoteket, [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Kшbenhavn; ©!!!)[/SIZE][/FONT]
In 300 or 299 Pyrrhus, not yet twenty, arrived in Alexandria, the Greek-style capital of the ancient country of the Nile, and it appears that pharaoh Ptolemy really liked the valiant young man, who gave proof of his strength and courage during hunting parties and other exercises. Ptolemy's stepdaughter Antigone became Pyrrhus' bride. (She was the daughter of Berenice I, who had once been married to an otherwise unknown man named Philip and was later married to Ptolemy.) Pyrrhus' biographer Plutarch of Chaeronea remarks that the Molossian leader "had a particular art of gaining over the great ones to his own interest", and this appears to be true. On the other hand, the great ones knew how to use Pyrrhus. In 297, Ptolemy financed a new coup in Epirus -the fourth one during Pyrrhus' life- and sent the Molossian leader with an army of mercenaries back to Epirus. Pyrrhus played his cards carefully. He announced that he would share power with Neoptolemus, who believed the promises of the man who was, after all, his relative. Pyrrhus became king of the Molossians and leader of the Epirote confederacy for the second time, and acted as Ptolemy's watchdog in Europe, guarding the Egyptian interests against Cassander of Macedonia.
From now on, Pyrrhus started to embark upon larger projects. In 295, he killed Neoptolemus during a banquet and was able to make his people believe that his colleague had been disloyal. He had now secured his rear, and went for the big prize: the Macedonian kingship. In 298, Cassander had died, leaving the throne to his son Philip IV, who died within two months (of natural causes). His two brothers now divided the kingdom: Antipater received the western and Alexander V the eastern half (the river Axios being the border). As was to be expected, they immediately started to quarrel. Alexander felt threatened, and invited Demetrius and Pyrrhus to come to his assistance. Pyrrhus invaded Macedonia in 294 and restored the balance of power between the two brothers. As a quid pro quo, Pyrrhus was to receive a part of Molossis that had been conquered by Philip II of Macedonia, and the city of Ambracia (modern Arta). This was to become Pyrrhus' capital: a city with access to the sea that was neither Molossian, nor Thesprotian or Chaonian.
Pyrrhus may have had greater designs, but for the time being, he had to be content, because now Demetrius arrived. King Alexander went out to greet him and thank him (for nothing), and was killed by Demetrius during a banquet - a repeat of Pyrrhus' treatment of Neoptolemus. Almost immediately, the Macedonian army proclaimed Demetrius king (text). He went on to attack the second brother, Antipater, who fled and never returned. Demetrius was the new Macedonian king.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Agathocles (Kunsthistorisches[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Museum, Wien)[/SIZE][/FONT]
Meanwhile, Pyrrhus' wife Antigone had died, and the king of Epirus remarried to three other women. His first bride was a Greek lady named Lanassa, and her dowry consisted of the islands of Leucas and Corcyra (modern Corfu). She was the daughter of Agathocles, the king of Syracuse on Sicily. Pyrrhus also married a daughter of king Audoleon of the Paeonians (north of Macedonia), and Bircenna, the daughter of the leader of the Illyrians, Bardyllis. Through marriage ties, Epirus was now at peace with all its neighbors - after all, the new king of Macedonia, Demetrius, was married to Pyrrhus' sister.
A
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Гостин
more Spire...
pa toa slikata so zborovi e od lazno-ilirskite uceni..
tie preveduvale..ama bez MK delot (se gleda i zosto)...
koga ke go sporedis so Mk jazikot..ete koj bile ilirite...a koj se laznite iliri...kapis???????
ucete bre etimologija..
toa odi vaka..
DESARETI..
pobaraj ja Indija..
dobivas Bharat...
vo zemjata Barat (indija staroto ime) ili po nase(i indiski-sanscrit) Des-Bharati...
Des=zemja + Barati lugeto=DESARETI
od kade pa Desareti?..
Bha = radiance, splendour
Rath = engrossed
Bharatiya = those who remain engrossed in the worship of ‘tej’ (radiance, light etc.). That is to say, Bharatiya is one who is engrossed in spiritual practice.
toa e IE sanscrit jazik,a ne Arben ili Vuljaj..Ljujaj...
ete i zosto ne go davame sonceto sto cini radiance...
a blisku bile i Selenite a?..
PIRRO
Walking away
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Macedonia
While Pyrrhus was organizing his new capital and reorganizing his state, Demetrius expanded his power. He already controlled many Greek cities, had added Macedonia, and carried Thessaly and several states in Central Greece in 293. The only parts that he did not possess were Sparta in the south and Aetolia in the west. However, he had to cope with insurrections in Thessaly and Boeotia, and there were strong indications that Pyrrhus was involved. His sister Deidamia, Demetrius' wife, was by now dead. Worse, his wife Lanassa ran away and found refuge in the palace of Demetrius, to whom she married in 290. [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Demetrius with bull's horns,[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]the symbol of the sea-god[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Poseidon. Antikensammlung,[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Berlin; ©**)[/SIZE][/FONT]
The personal conflict between the two men escalated to an open war between Epirus and Macedonia when Demetrius wanted to conquer Aetolia and Pyrrhus announced to support those who were under attack. They were his southern neighbors, and if he saved them from Macedonian aggression, he ould subdue them himself. So when Demetrius invaded Aetolia, Pyrrhus did the same, but the two armies failed to make contact. Demetrius ravaged parts of Epirus, while Pyrrhus attacked the Macedonian vice-commander in Aetolia, Pantauchus. First, the Epirote king and the Macedonian officer fought a duel, and after Pyrrhus had been victorious, his army defeated its enemy. After this success, Pyrrhus invaded Macedonia proper, but was repelled.
In December 289, Demetrius and Pyrrhus renewed their alliance, but the Epirote was the moral victor. The defeat in Aetolia and the ensuing invasion had been heavy blows for Macedonian prestige. After all, since the days of king Philip II, its armies had almost never been defeated. From now on, Pyrrhus was often called "the eagle", a surname that expresses the admiration felt by many people, who were reminded of that other young warrior, Alexander the Great.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2] The situation in 289 (©**)[/SIZE][/FONT]
This was not the end of Pyrrhus' involvement in Macedonian affairs. Although the kingdom of Demetrius was smaller than that of king Lysimachus of Thrace, Ptolemy of Egypt or Seleucus of Asia, he was the strongest monarch of his age. His army was as large as that of Philip and Alexander, and his navy was stronger. Moreover, he could count on the Greeks. This power started to provoke resistance, and his competitors agreed to attack him. Ptolemy would send his navy into the Aegean Sea, and Lysimachus was to invade Macedonia. Seleucus, whose territories did not border on Demetrius', gave moral support.
At this moment, the Macedonians revolted against their king (288). It is not exactly clear why, but it is tempting to suppose that they were shocked by Demetrius' oriental court and his forced conscriptions, which must have shocked them after the quiet last years of Cassander. Perhaps, Pyrrhus and Lysimachus were involved. The revolt must have shattered Demetrius, who knew that he would lose his kingdom if he stayed in Macedonia. Therefore, he installed his son Antigonus II Gonatas as governor of Greece, and decided to launch an all-out attack in the east, as if he were a new Alexander. While Demetrius was away, Pyrrhus invaded Macedonia, where he was recognized as king. He ruled all the country between the Ionian Sea in the west and the Aegean in the east. A bit later, Lysimachus of Thrace arrived from the east and snatched away his part of Macedonia. The two kings accepted the river Axios as border.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Coin of Gonatas (©!!)[/SIZE][/FONT]
In 286, Pyrrhus, restless as ever, invaded Thessaly, which had until then remained loyal to Demetrius and Gonatas. There may have been some degree of coordination with the Athenians, who attacked Gonatas' garrison in Piraeus and liberated themselves from foreign rule. Antigonus was now reduced to central Greece and the Peloponnese, and was forced to conclude a peace treaty with Pyrrhus, in which he had to cede most of Thessaly (285). Pyrrhus was at the height of his power. Later that year, Lysimachus, Pyrrhus, and Gonatas learned that Demetrius had been taken captive by Seleucus. The latter treated the invader fairly and saw to it that he was never short of anything, especially wine. Demetrius drank himself to death.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2] The situation in 283 (©**)[/SIZE][/FONT]
Now that Demetrius was removed, the former allies Pyrrhus and Lysimachus started to quarrel. The latter simply bought Pyrrhus' commanders, made diplomatic overtures to the Macedonians, and in the summer of 285, the king of Epirus had to return to his home land. Southern Macedonia and Thessaly were now part of Lysimachus' empire, which stretched from Thermopylae to the Danube and from the Ionian Sea to the river Halys in central Turkey.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Pyrrhus[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2](Museo nazionale della[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]civiltа romana, Roma; ©**)[/SIZE][/FONT]
As it turned out, it was an empire built on sand. Seleucus needed only one battle, at Corupedium in 281, to overthrow Lysimachus - only to be killed himself when he arrived in Europe, by an usurper named Ptolemy Keraunos. This offered new chances to Pyrrhus, who had both the moral credit and the opportunity to become king of his former kingdom. However, he lacked the temperament to settle and rule. The warrior Pyrrhus had other plans.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Relief of a Greek warrior from[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Tarente, first quarter of the third[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]century (Allard Pierson[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Museum, Amst[/SIZE][/FONT]
While Pyrrhus was organizing his new capital and reorganizing his state, Demetrius expanded his power. He already controlled many Greek cities, had added Macedonia, and carried Thessaly and several states in Central Greece in 293. The only parts that he did not possess were Sparta in the south and Aetolia in the west. However, he had to cope with insurrections in Thessaly and Boeotia, and there were strong indications that Pyrrhus was involved. His sister Deidamia, Demetrius' wife, was by now dead. Worse, his wife Lanassa ran away and found refuge in the palace of Demetrius, to whom she married in 290.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Demetrius with bull's horns,[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]the symbol of the sea-god[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Poseidon. Antikensammlung,[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2]Berlin; ©**)[/SIZE][/FONT]
The personal conflict between the two men escalated to an open war between Epirus and Macedonia when Demetrius wanted to conquer Aetolia and Pyrrhus announced to support those who were under attack. They were his southern neighbors, and if he saved them from Macedonian aggression, he ould subdue them himself. So when Demetrius invaded Aetolia, Pyrrhus did the same, but the two armies failed to make contact. Demetrius ravaged parts of Epirus, while Pyrrhus attacked the Macedonian vice-commander in Aetolia, Pantauchus. First, the Epirote king and the Macedonian officer fought a duel, and after Pyrrhus had been victorious, his army defeated its enemy. After this success, Pyrrhus invaded Macedonia proper, but was repelled.
In December 289, Demetrius and Pyrrhus renewed their alliance, but the Epirote was the moral victor. The defeat in Aetolia and the ensuing invasion had been heavy blows for Macedonian prestige. After all, since the days of king Philip II, its armies had almost never been defeated. From now on, Pyrrhus was often called "the eagle", a surname that expresses the admiration felt by many people, who were reminded of that other young warrior, Alexander the Great.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2] The situation in 289 (©**)[/SIZE][/FONT] This was not the end of Pyrrhus' involvement in Macedonian affairs. Although the kingdom of Demetrius was smaller than that of king Lysimachus of Thrace, Ptolemy of Egypt or Seleucus of Asia, he was the strongest monarch of his age. His army was as large as that of Philip and Alexander, and his navy was stronger. Moreover, he could count on the Greeks. This power started to provoke resistance, and his competitors agreed to attack him. Ptolemy would send his navy into the Aegean Sea, and Lysimachus was to invade Macedonia. Seleucus, whose territories did not border on Demetrius', gave moral support.
Lysimachus (Archaeological museum, Selзuk)
At this moment, the Macedonians revolted against their king (288). It is not exactly clear why, but it is tempting to suppose that they were shocked by Demetrius' oriental court and his forced conscriptions, which must have shocked them after the quiet last years of Cassander. Perhaps, Pyrrhus and Lysimachus were involved. The revolt must have shattered Demetrius, who knew that he would lose his kingdom if he stayed in Macedonia. Therefore, he installed his son Antigonus II Gonatas as governor of Greece, and decided to launch an all-out attack in the east, as if he were a new Alexander. While Demetrius was away, Pyrrhus invaded Macedonia, where he was recognized as king. He ruled all the country between the Ionian Sea in the west and the Aegean in the east. A bit later, Lysimachus of Thrace arrived from the east and snatched away his part of Macedonia. The two kings accepted the river Axios as border.
In 286, Pyrrhus, restless as ever, invaded Thessaly, which had until then remained loyal to Demetrius and Gonatas. There may have been some degree of coordination with the Athenians, who attacked Gonatas' garrison in Piraeus and liberated themselves from foreign rule. Antigonus was now reduced to central Greece and the Peloponnese, and was forced to conclude a peace treaty with Pyrrhus, in which he had to cede most of Thessaly (285). Pyrrhus was at the height of his power. Later that year, Lysimachus, Pyrrhus, and Gonatas learned that Demetrius had been taken captive by Seleucus. The latter treated the invader fairly and saw to it that he was never short of anything, especially wine. Demetrius drank himself to death.
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-2] The situation in 283 (©**)[/SIZE][/FONT] Now that Demetrius was removed, the former allies Pyrrhus and Lysimachus started to quarrel. The latter simply bought Pyrrhus' commanders, made diplomatic overtures to the Macedonians, and in the summer of 285, the king of Epirus had to return to his home land. Southern Macedonia and Thessaly were now part of Lysimachus' empire, which stretched from Thermopylae to the Danube and from the Ionian Sea to the river Halys in central Turkey.
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As it turned out, it was an empire built on sand. Seleucus needed only one battle, at Corupedium in 281, to overthrow Lysimachus - only to be killed himself when he arrived in Europe, by an usurper named Ptolemy Keraunos. This offered new chances to Pyrrhus, who had both the moral credit and the opportunity to become king of his former kingdom. However, he lacked the temperament to settle and rule. The warrior Pyrrhus had other plans.
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ima li nekoj lazno-ilirski mornar da objasni od kade e imeto jadransko more?..
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пиро
воопштено сакаш да ми кажеш дека Албанскиот јазик е постар од Македонскиот ...
Ајде да се навратиме на ова :
кои се најстарите откритија за писменоста и на кое писмо се напишани и каде !?
и припреми се за противтезите од Гоца ...
PIRRO
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Да, да Гоца... Сметам дека јазикот на Илирите, значи јазикот на варварите северно од грците, јазикот на Хомер во Илиада и Одисеа е албанскиот јазик иако и во македонскиот,црногорскиот,хрватскиот (славјански јазици) се употребуваат многу зборови од тој јазик и спротивното, во албанскиот јазик се употрбуваат славизми... Ако твојата теза е дека античките македонци зборувале словенски јазик тогаш однапред ќе кажам дека си во заблуда но сепак не е лошо да ни ги кажеш твоите противтези :salut:
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PIRRO
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Повели почетниот текст на Илиада, пробај преведи го на македонски јазик да видиме каква теорија имаш ТРНУ ако воопшто имаш, мислам ако воопшто можеш да го споредиш денешниот македонски-славјански јазик со јазикот на античките илири,македонци...
http://homoecumenicus.com/homer_iliad_ioannidis.htm
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prvo, daj Homer na Original 
ORIGINAL, ne nekoj prevod od Arapski od sreden vek...
vtoro, vie Albancite mnogu zeleni kachite, epten. Podsekjate na Srbite...
Francija - Frankite = Albanija - Albancite , samo sho Albancite ne ve porobile tuku vi go dale imeto i del od jazikot.
Ostanatoto e tocno, golem del od predcite vi se starosedelci na Balkanot.
Toa e neosporna ISTORIJA.
Da bevte umni, ke trgnevte od pocetokot. Za sto zboruvame tuka? Za Istorija?
Najrasprostranet termin so koj se oznacuva naukata koja se zanimava so minatoto e Istorija / Istoriae / Istoria / History i site mozni verzii.
Za da ti napravam polesno, ke se posluzam so edna mnogu glupava metoda, ke prasuvam i sam ke gi davam odgovorite.
Koj go dava imeto na edna nauchna disciplina?
Ili toj koj ja sozdal, ili nekoj od ranite "praktikanti" na taa nauchna disciplina.
Covekot od sekogas zapisuval slucki, megjutoa zboruvam kako naucna disciplina.
Fakt e deka i za vreme na Antickata Makedonska Imperija naukata bila sponzorirana od samite Kralevi. (ne samo istorijata, voopsto naukata i kulturata)
Fakt e deka prvata rabota sho ja napravil Ptolomej odkako stanal Faraon bilo dokumentiranje/preveduvajne/arhivirajne na starite spisi i soznanija od "sekoj kraj na imperijata" vo Aleksandriskata Biblioteka.
I fakt e deka terminot "Istorija" ima Etimoloska podloga SAMO vo Makedonskiot Jazik.
gledam si procital 100 milioni gluposti, ama na casovi po Makedonski ne si odel
glagolot STORI
stori
storeno
se stori
storija
dali treba ponatamu da diskutiras za starosta na jazicite? Ubavi ni se, i nasiot nam, i vasiot vam. Ako sakas da veruvas deka bile prvo Albancite, pa dosle Amebite, pa dosol Gospod i ve prasal dali smee da pravi svet - VERUVAJ.
Ama nemoj na dedo ti da mu kazvas kaj se nivite
ORIGINAL, ne nekoj prevod od Arapski od sreden vek...
vtoro, vie Albancite mnogu zeleni kachite, epten. Podsekjate na Srbite...
Francija - Frankite = Albanija - Albancite , samo sho Albancite ne ve porobile tuku vi go dale imeto i del od jazikot.
Ostanatoto e tocno, golem del od predcite vi se starosedelci na Balkanot.
Toa e neosporna ISTORIJA.
Da bevte umni, ke trgnevte od pocetokot. Za sto zboruvame tuka? Za Istorija?
Najrasprostranet termin so koj se oznacuva naukata koja se zanimava so minatoto e Istorija / Istoriae / Istoria / History i site mozni verzii.
Za da ti napravam polesno, ke se posluzam so edna mnogu glupava metoda, ke prasuvam i sam ke gi davam odgovorite.
Koj go dava imeto na edna nauchna disciplina?
Ili toj koj ja sozdal, ili nekoj od ranite "praktikanti" na taa nauchna disciplina.
Covekot od sekogas zapisuval slucki, megjutoa zboruvam kako naucna disciplina.
Fakt e deka i za vreme na Antickata Makedonska Imperija naukata bila sponzorirana od samite Kralevi. (ne samo istorijata, voopsto naukata i kulturata)
Fakt e deka prvata rabota sho ja napravil Ptolomej odkako stanal Faraon bilo dokumentiranje/preveduvajne/arhivirajne na starite spisi i soznanija od "sekoj kraj na imperijata" vo Aleksandriskata Biblioteka.
I fakt e deka terminot "Istorija" ima Etimoloska podloga SAMO vo Makedonskiot Jazik.
gledam si procital 100 milioni gluposti, ama na casovi po Makedonski ne si odel
glagolot STORI
stori
storeno
se stori
storija
dali treba ponatamu da diskutiras za starosta na jazicite? Ubavi ni se, i nasiot nam, i vasiot vam. Ako sakas da veruvas deka bile prvo Albancite, pa dosle Amebite, pa dosol Gospod i ve prasal dali smee da pravi svet - VERUVAJ.
Ama nemoj na dedo ti da mu kazvas kaj se nivite
- Статус