Државен факултет за информатика
- Креатор на темата Димче_биљбиљче
- Време на започнување
Mind In Motion
Smirking Revenge
Ти ваљда не го сфаќаш поимот децентрализација, да ти појаснам, дека тоа е направено да не се концентрира моќта, во случајов универзитети, во Скопје или кај и да е. For the record.
Jane
Кајганџија
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Да го сфаќам, али ај да има еден саглам во скопје, па да направат друг во охрид, ама ова е многу глуп потег според мене. 4 години се надевав ќе отворат факултет како што треба за информатика и на крај во охрид го отворија...
Mind In Motion
Smirking Revenge
http://www.uist.edu.mk
Oфицијалниот сајт на универзитетот, има и пример од приемниот по англиски.
Лесен е боза. Слично како матурата.
Oфицијалниот сајт на универзитетот, има и пример од приемниот по англиски.
Лесен е боза. Слично како матурата.
ErT
Console Dude
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http://www.uist.edu.mk
Oфицијалниот сајт на универзитетот, има и пример од приемниот по англиски.
Лесен е боза. Слично како матурата.
*пее* Ќе биде веселоо!!
deXterche
тадаммм
Одговорите од тестотhttp://www.uist.edu.mk
Oфицијалниот сајт на универзитетот, има и пример од приемниот по англиски.
Лесен е боза. Слично како матурата.
Бреј еден тест не направиле свој
Осеќам ќе ги замине приватниве во "квалитет"темава гледам е застарена но да не отворам нова тема мислам би можел да прашам и овде дали некој е информиран до каде е работата со отварање на нов факултет за информатика во скопје односно ФИНКИ (факултет за информатички науки и компијутерско инжинерство)
ErT
Console Dude
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Не верувам дека ќе се отвори то (барем засега). Ќе биде голема катастрофа ако го направат то чудо.
се надевав дека ќе се отвори годинава. бидеќи и министеров за образование имаше давано некој изјави во врска со тоа дека ке се отвора.
Ајде се надевам деновиве ќе дојдам скопје на саем за факултетиве па ќе си видам сам или ако појди некој и види разбери нешто нека кажи
Ајде се надевам деновиве ќе дојдам скопје на саем за факултетиве па ќе си видам сам или ако појди некој и види разбери нешто нека кажи
Mind In Motion
Smirking Revenge
Ваљда бил пијан. Нема поента ако се отвори уште еден универзитет за информатика. Можда зборел дека го отвориле UIST. Неверувам во тоа.
Izgleda zatoa sto univerzitetov e najdobriot vo Makedonija eminentnite profesori pocnaa da si zaminuvaat vo sosedna Grcija kade nivnite prava kje bidat barem pocituvani. Drug del od profesorite si zaminuvaat zosto studentite ne uzivaat najobicni covekovi i studentski prava bidejki sepak univerzitetot stana privatna sopstvenost i one man show i se rakovodi po principot "kako kje mi prdne". Ako ne veruvate, del od prepiskata na profesorite koi se zaminale bidejki univerzitetot stanal privaten posed ala Gazda Zingo odnosno tekstilna fabrika. Jas bi se zaprasal dali bi se zapisal tamu.
Dear colleagues and friend.
As some of you may have already heard, it was the Rector's decision
that my employment at UIST should come to an end. It was really a
great, great pleasure having worked with all of you and I wish you
great success in everything that you are trying to accomplish at UIST
and in your life. I'm still coming back to Macedonia in August and I
will be there for the next year. So please don't hesitate to contact
me and get together every once in a while. My new email address is
mitrege@auburn.edu. I wold also like to ask you to please delete any
and all communication you may have had with me because such
communication may eventually be used against both of us.
--
Dr. George Mitrevski
Fulbright Scholar
Pedagogical Faculty, Bitola
+389 47 253 694
Dear colleagues and friends,
As some of you may have already heard, it was the Rector's decision to do not renew my employment at UIST. I really had a great, great pleasure having worked with all of you and I hoped you enjoyed working with me. I wish you great success in everything that you will initiate.
My future will probably not be so far from Ohrid, as I have been offered a researcher position in a famous laboratory in Computer Science, in Greece, that I am now going to accept. If you want to contact me, please write to mpuigt@gmail.com or mpuigt@ast.obs-mip.fr.
As it was written by George, please delete any and all communication you may have had with me because of possible consequences against both of us.
All the best,
Matthieu
A eve ja pricinata zosto profesorite si zaminale:
Dear Krste and the rest of the students,
Thanks for your support on this. As of three days ago according to the
Rector I was still employed and looked forward to coming back in
August. Obviously at the last moment the Rector decided that he had
other plans for me. Some of you may be glad that professor Puigt and I
will no longer be at UIST, and that's fine. We can't please everyone.
I just want to share few of my impressions regarding my experience at
UIST. First of all, I want to honestly tell you that your are truly a
very, very bright and unique group of students and that you will have
great success in life in whatever you decide to do. Second, I think
you need to be aware of the fact that my working experience has been
working at institutions that are run democratically, professionally,
in a truly academic atmosphere, and where students do really come
first. I'm not saying that this is true for all US universities, but I
would NOT work at any university that does not respect its employees,
it's professors, and most of all its students. I may have done and
said things that are contrary to my beliefs, but I am not a holy man,
I have committed errors in my life, but I do expect my errors to be
judged in a professional, and not in a dictatorial way. Sorry to say
that UIST does lack this professionalism in many ways.
I was not given a reason for why my employment was ended. The Rector
didn't even have the decency to tell me this himself, instead he
ordered his secretary to pass the good news. I'm sure he has a very
good logical and proper explanation, but he must also have another
explanation in the back of his head that he would rather not share
with anyone. My opinion is that the real reason is because I was a
trouble maker for the university. You know very well what my opinion
is about personal privacy and academic freedom, neither of which are
very respected in Macedonian educational institution. My opinion on
this conflicts with that of the Rector. There are other important
conflicting issues as well. I tried to express my opinion and suggest
changes to the Statute of the university, as well as the Student
Handbook, or Rulebook. For example, did you know that if a committee
decided that you have engaged in some immoral or unethical behavior
they can put your name and your misbehavior on a bulletin board,
something like a "Board of shame". I saw Krste on several occasions
kissing his girlfriend in public, and I'm wondering if this might be
an example of immoral behavior that needs to be reported. I think
China is probably the only country that they still do such things. If
you plan to continue your studies at UIST, and please don't be
influenced by what happened to me, I suggest that you read very
carefully the student rulebook, because you'll be affected by it on
almost daily basis.
Second, In my classes I tried to teach you content that was necessary
for your education and for your career, as well as discuss issues that
relate to what it means to study at a university that follows the
model of a typical public university in the US. From my experience at
UIST I can tell you that the great majority of the students were
excited about this model, they accepted it and they looked forward to
it. From my experience I can also tell you that the only thing that
UIST follows that resembles the US model is that the instruction is in
English. In every other way, especially in the way it is administered,
it follows examples of some of the worst models in Macedonia. There is
no respect for the most essential aspects of an academic institution,
and that is personal privacy and academic freedom. You take away these
two, and you no longer have an academic institution. Call it anything
but not a university. The Rector has asked me to hand over all of my
passwords as well as copies of all of my emails. My response was that
I would do that "when hell freezes over". I hope you are familiar with
this American term. During your education at UIST you might face
similar issues, and you will need to think very seriously how you
intend to respond.
I, and many of my colleagues were really excited to be part of this
experiment and a dream, to start something from scratch and to make it
at least better than what is available now. My personal opinion is
that if the university continues on this path, this is not likely to
happen. However, you really need to be aware that you have lot of
influence in how the university will progress. You need to be active
in how things are run, you need to object wen you believe things are
done to you unfairly, and never be afraid that you are going to fail a
course as a result of your objections. I have enough respect for my
colleagues to know that they would not demean themselves to that
degree. UIST is no one's personal "tekstilna fabrika". It belongs to
you and the people of Macedonia, you have a stake in it, you will be
educated there, eventually your children might follow you there.
As for my plans, I still have my Fulbright in Bitola for the fall
semester. I will probably remain in Macedonia through next summer and
then head back to my home institution in Alabama.
In several of my lectures we discussed the concept of "critical
thinking" and how to evaluate information. I hope you have acquired
some of those critical thinking skills and you should apply them
whenever you read or hear anything related to UIST, or related to what
happened to Puigt and me.
I can't request or encourage you to write a complaint about all this.
You as individuals have to make a decision on your own. And if Krste
or anyone else asks you to sign a complaint, don't feel intimidated if
you don't agree, just say "no thanks".
Please all of you feel free to keep in touch at my Auburn email
address: mitrege@auburn.edu.
Regards.
Dobro e da se znae zosto doagja upisna godina pa da ne se zaebe ushte nekoj kako onie koi vekje se tamu. Ovie dvajca profesori bea edni od najeminentnite iminja kazuvani i reklamirani na televizija a sega se frlaat ko partali bez nikakvo objasnuvanje. A eve go i objasnuvanjeto
Katerina Klimoska to students, Blagoja, faculty, rectorate
show details Jul 5 (4 days ago)
Dear students
On behalf of the Rector I would like to inform you that for every information that you need regarding the classes or marks from the Professors that are no longer engaged in UIS&T you can contact the Rectorate of the University.
In the past week we have heard that the Professors that are no longer engaged in UIS&T are trying to contact the students and spread rummer about the functioning of the University. This informations are not correct and valid and they are out of range of their professional engagements. If this unofficial meetings are used to spread lies about the functioning of the University in general or lies about employees of the University, this meetings will be considered as meetings against the interests and well being of the University and will be sanctioned according Universities honor codes and State Laws.
In order this situations to be avoided please for every doubt that you have contact the Rector's office.
On behalf of the Rector
--
Katerina Klimoska
Administrator
University for Information Science & Technology, "St. Paul the Apostle" Ohrid
+389 46 55 000 1
Vanco Nikoleski bb
6000 Ohrid
Republic of Macedonia
Znaci, ni vo komunisticko vaka ne se postapuvalo. I posle ova e evropski, amerikanski, svetski univerzitet?
Dear colleagues and friend.
As some of you may have already heard, it was the Rector's decision
that my employment at UIST should come to an end. It was really a
great, great pleasure having worked with all of you and I wish you
great success in everything that you are trying to accomplish at UIST
and in your life. I'm still coming back to Macedonia in August and I
will be there for the next year. So please don't hesitate to contact
me and get together every once in a while. My new email address is
mitrege@auburn.edu. I wold also like to ask you to please delete any
and all communication you may have had with me because such
communication may eventually be used against both of us.
--
Dr. George Mitrevski
Fulbright Scholar
Pedagogical Faculty, Bitola
+389 47 253 694
Dear colleagues and friends,
As some of you may have already heard, it was the Rector's decision to do not renew my employment at UIST. I really had a great, great pleasure having worked with all of you and I hoped you enjoyed working with me. I wish you great success in everything that you will initiate.
My future will probably not be so far from Ohrid, as I have been offered a researcher position in a famous laboratory in Computer Science, in Greece, that I am now going to accept. If you want to contact me, please write to mpuigt@gmail.com or mpuigt@ast.obs-mip.fr.
As it was written by George, please delete any and all communication you may have had with me because of possible consequences against both of us.
All the best,
Matthieu
A eve ja pricinata zosto profesorite si zaminale:
Dear Krste and the rest of the students,
Thanks for your support on this. As of three days ago according to the
Rector I was still employed and looked forward to coming back in
August. Obviously at the last moment the Rector decided that he had
other plans for me. Some of you may be glad that professor Puigt and I
will no longer be at UIST, and that's fine. We can't please everyone.
I just want to share few of my impressions regarding my experience at
UIST. First of all, I want to honestly tell you that your are truly a
very, very bright and unique group of students and that you will have
great success in life in whatever you decide to do. Second, I think
you need to be aware of the fact that my working experience has been
working at institutions that are run democratically, professionally,
in a truly academic atmosphere, and where students do really come
first. I'm not saying that this is true for all US universities, but I
would NOT work at any university that does not respect its employees,
it's professors, and most of all its students. I may have done and
said things that are contrary to my beliefs, but I am not a holy man,
I have committed errors in my life, but I do expect my errors to be
judged in a professional, and not in a dictatorial way. Sorry to say
that UIST does lack this professionalism in many ways.
I was not given a reason for why my employment was ended. The Rector
didn't even have the decency to tell me this himself, instead he
ordered his secretary to pass the good news. I'm sure he has a very
good logical and proper explanation, but he must also have another
explanation in the back of his head that he would rather not share
with anyone. My opinion is that the real reason is because I was a
trouble maker for the university. You know very well what my opinion
is about personal privacy and academic freedom, neither of which are
very respected in Macedonian educational institution. My opinion on
this conflicts with that of the Rector. There are other important
conflicting issues as well. I tried to express my opinion and suggest
changes to the Statute of the university, as well as the Student
Handbook, or Rulebook. For example, did you know that if a committee
decided that you have engaged in some immoral or unethical behavior
they can put your name and your misbehavior on a bulletin board,
something like a "Board of shame". I saw Krste on several occasions
kissing his girlfriend in public, and I'm wondering if this might be
an example of immoral behavior that needs to be reported. I think
China is probably the only country that they still do such things. If
you plan to continue your studies at UIST, and please don't be
influenced by what happened to me, I suggest that you read very
carefully the student rulebook, because you'll be affected by it on
almost daily basis.
Second, In my classes I tried to teach you content that was necessary
for your education and for your career, as well as discuss issues that
relate to what it means to study at a university that follows the
model of a typical public university in the US. From my experience at
UIST I can tell you that the great majority of the students were
excited about this model, they accepted it and they looked forward to
it. From my experience I can also tell you that the only thing that
UIST follows that resembles the US model is that the instruction is in
English. In every other way, especially in the way it is administered,
it follows examples of some of the worst models in Macedonia. There is
no respect for the most essential aspects of an academic institution,
and that is personal privacy and academic freedom. You take away these
two, and you no longer have an academic institution. Call it anything
but not a university. The Rector has asked me to hand over all of my
passwords as well as copies of all of my emails. My response was that
I would do that "when hell freezes over". I hope you are familiar with
this American term. During your education at UIST you might face
similar issues, and you will need to think very seriously how you
intend to respond.
I, and many of my colleagues were really excited to be part of this
experiment and a dream, to start something from scratch and to make it
at least better than what is available now. My personal opinion is
that if the university continues on this path, this is not likely to
happen. However, you really need to be aware that you have lot of
influence in how the university will progress. You need to be active
in how things are run, you need to object wen you believe things are
done to you unfairly, and never be afraid that you are going to fail a
course as a result of your objections. I have enough respect for my
colleagues to know that they would not demean themselves to that
degree. UIST is no one's personal "tekstilna fabrika". It belongs to
you and the people of Macedonia, you have a stake in it, you will be
educated there, eventually your children might follow you there.
As for my plans, I still have my Fulbright in Bitola for the fall
semester. I will probably remain in Macedonia through next summer and
then head back to my home institution in Alabama.
In several of my lectures we discussed the concept of "critical
thinking" and how to evaluate information. I hope you have acquired
some of those critical thinking skills and you should apply them
whenever you read or hear anything related to UIST, or related to what
happened to Puigt and me.
I can't request or encourage you to write a complaint about all this.
You as individuals have to make a decision on your own. And if Krste
or anyone else asks you to sign a complaint, don't feel intimidated if
you don't agree, just say "no thanks".
Please all of you feel free to keep in touch at my Auburn email
address: mitrege@auburn.edu.
Regards.
Dobro e da se znae zosto doagja upisna godina pa da ne se zaebe ushte nekoj kako onie koi vekje se tamu. Ovie dvajca profesori bea edni od najeminentnite iminja kazuvani i reklamirani na televizija a sega se frlaat ko partali bez nikakvo objasnuvanje. A eve go i objasnuvanjeto
Katerina Klimoska to students, Blagoja, faculty, rectorate
show details Jul 5 (4 days ago)
Dear students
On behalf of the Rector I would like to inform you that for every information that you need regarding the classes or marks from the Professors that are no longer engaged in UIS&T you can contact the Rectorate of the University.
In the past week we have heard that the Professors that are no longer engaged in UIS&T are trying to contact the students and spread rummer about the functioning of the University. This informations are not correct and valid and they are out of range of their professional engagements. If this unofficial meetings are used to spread lies about the functioning of the University in general or lies about employees of the University, this meetings will be considered as meetings against the interests and well being of the University and will be sanctioned according Universities honor codes and State Laws.
In order this situations to be avoided please for every doubt that you have contact the Rector's office.
On behalf of the Rector
--
Katerina Klimoska
Administrator
University for Information Science & Technology, "St. Paul the Apostle" Ohrid
+389 46 55 000 1
Vanco Nikoleski bb
6000 Ohrid
Republic of Macedonia
Znaci, ni vo komunisticko vaka ne se postapuvalo. I posle ova e evropski, amerikanski, svetski univerzitet?
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- 24 март 2010
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- 22
Ме чуди како нема контра реплики/прашања и заинтересираност околу погорниов пост?
Ајде и овде да прашам.. Се цитирам од IT:
Универзитетов стана приватен и тоа од Ѕинго? WTF?
Од кај е веста? ако е ова точно, целосно се разочарав.. Мислев едно нешто направиле како што треба..
Може дополнителни информации?
Ајде и овде да прашам.. Се цитирам од IT:
Универзитетов стана приватен и тоа од Ѕинго? WTF?
Од кај е веста? ако е ова точно, целосно се разочарав.. Мислев едно нешто направиле како што треба..
Може дополнителни информации?
Decki vidite vaka stoet rabotite na UIST vo Ohrid: univerzitetot nikoj da ne ve mamit deka e privaten, taka mislet deka e nov I mnogu malku se znajt za nego. Univerzitetot si e drzaven, od ministerstvo za obrazovanie imat konkurs za studenti objaveno, pa nemat nikakva logika vo to so se mislit deka univerzitetot bil privaten, to vrska nemat. UNIVERZITETOT E DRZAVEN
I vi se molam to so nekoj profesor od stranstvo dosol ovde, pa predaval I si osol, to ne znacit deka ne cinit univerzitetot. Se znajt zs idet strancite ovde – za PARI. A toj profesorot od Ameriak so bese, so kazvese deka univerzitetot ke ee amerikanski, ap ne znam evropski, takvite kako toj profesor idet I tie ovde za pari da predavet. Baska profesorot od Amerika, imat dobivano stipendija od Fullbright, to mozit da se vidit na forumov. Pa taka, luge mili vidite zs idet strancite ovde vo Makedonija. STRANSKITE PROFESORI IDET I RABOTET ZA PARI
I vi se molam to so nekoj profesor od stranstvo dosol ovde, pa predaval I si osol, to ne znacit deka ne cinit univerzitetot. Se znajt zs idet strancite ovde – za PARI. A toj profesorot od Ameriak so bese, so kazvese deka univerzitetot ke ee amerikanski, ap ne znam evropski, takvite kako toj profesor idet I tie ovde za pari da predavet. Baska profesorot od Amerika, imat dobivano stipendija od Fullbright, to mozit da se vidit na forumov. Pa taka, luge mili vidite zs idet strancite ovde vo Makedonija. STRANSKITE PROFESORI IDET I RABOTET ZA PARI
Evo kako eminentnite profesori od stranstvo se odnesvet kon studentite na uist. EDEN PRIMER DOSTOEN ZA POCIT (bravo za profesorot po fizika!)
From: Gregory Hillhouse <gregory.hillhouse@uist.edu.mk>
Date: Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM
Subject: Holiday Greetings
To: students@uist.edu.mk
Dear Students
I hope that you are enjoying a well-deserved holiday and I am looking forward to see you again in the new academic year. I am also very excited about welcoming new faculty members from Germany, Tunisia, France, England, Belgium, Italy and USA (Princeton University). Considering that our university is still a “baby” (to quote President Ivanov), we have made excellent progress towards realizing our dream of producing world-class, innovative, and skilled graduates who will contribute towards the technological and economic development of Macedonia.
As an educator, it has been extremely satisfying to see the positive changes undergone by many students. In particular, we have seen the change from a go-with-the-flow attitude towards one of motivation, focus and purpose. It has also been very rewarding to see how many students have easily adapted to instruction in English, the global language of communication for science, engineering and IT. Indeed, we are very happy and privileged to be living in Ohrid and to be teaching students of such exceptional caliber.
You are very fortunate to be part of this exciting and visionary initiative and we encourage you to take full advantage of academic programs offered by UIST.
I would like to mention that both Prof Rana and myself were recently offered attractive employment packages at one of the world’s top universities (ranked within the top 5). However, we really identify 100% with the bright outlook and vision of UIST, and hence we declined the offer and chose to stay in Macedonia.
As always, please feel free to contact me if you would like to discuss career options or seek advice on any UIST-related issues. Enjoy the rest of the holiday and we look forward to seeing you next semester.
With best wishes
Prof Gregory Hillhouse
From: Gregory Hillhouse <gregory.hillhouse@uist.edu.mk>
Date: Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM
Subject: Holiday Greetings
To: students@uist.edu.mk
Dear Students
I hope that you are enjoying a well-deserved holiday and I am looking forward to see you again in the new academic year. I am also very excited about welcoming new faculty members from Germany, Tunisia, France, England, Belgium, Italy and USA (Princeton University). Considering that our university is still a “baby” (to quote President Ivanov), we have made excellent progress towards realizing our dream of producing world-class, innovative, and skilled graduates who will contribute towards the technological and economic development of Macedonia.
As an educator, it has been extremely satisfying to see the positive changes undergone by many students. In particular, we have seen the change from a go-with-the-flow attitude towards one of motivation, focus and purpose. It has also been very rewarding to see how many students have easily adapted to instruction in English, the global language of communication for science, engineering and IT. Indeed, we are very happy and privileged to be living in Ohrid and to be teaching students of such exceptional caliber.
You are very fortunate to be part of this exciting and visionary initiative and we encourage you to take full advantage of academic programs offered by UIST.
I would like to mention that both Prof Rana and myself were recently offered attractive employment packages at one of the world’s top universities (ranked within the top 5). However, we really identify 100% with the bright outlook and vision of UIST, and hence we declined the offer and chose to stay in Macedonia.
As always, please feel free to contact me if you would like to discuss career options or seek advice on any UIST-related issues. Enjoy the rest of the holiday and we look forward to seeing you next semester.
With best wishes
Prof Gregory Hillhouse