Војна во Украина (исклучиво воена перспектива)
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Има, дневно по 300 луѓе умираат таму, украинските портали по Фејсбук сами пишуваат дека таму е кланица.
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Following the latest video footage it was able to make updates in the frontline around Spirne. Ukrainian Army managed to recover the rest of the urban area during the last days while Russian Army & DPR still in control of the gas station.
During the last hours Russian Army, DPR & LPR forces increased the buffer zone around Yakovlivka town and began advancing towards different axis, but specially towards the town of Rozdolivka and the city of Soledar.
Few changes in Bakhmut front during the last days. Russian Army & DPR forces took control over some blocks at Vatutina street in Zabakhmutka district.
Map corrections were made some kilometers south, where Russian Army & DPR forces advanced from Kurdyumivka around water channel during the last days.
On the other hand, Ukrainian Army managed to repell Russian Army & DPR forces attack south of Neskuchne, which confirms Ukrainian forces still in control over the town.
During the last hours Russian Army, DPR & LPR forces increased the buffer zone around Yakovlivka town and began advancing towards different axis, but specially towards the town of Rozdolivka and the city of Soledar.
Few changes in Bakhmut front during the last days. Russian Army & DPR forces took control over some blocks at Vatutina street in Zabakhmutka district.
Map corrections were made some kilometers south, where Russian Army & DPR forces advanced from Kurdyumivka around water channel during the last days.
On the other hand, Ukrainian Army managed to repell Russian Army & DPR forces attack south of Neskuchne, which confirms Ukrainian forces still in control over the town.
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Автоматски споено мислење:
Situation around Bakhmut: Russian Army & DPR forces regained southern part of Fedora Maksymenka street and reached the outskirts of Miasokombinat district. On the other hand, Ukrainian Army regained some positions in Opytne suburb.
Situation south of Bakhmut: Russian Army & DPR forces advanced south of Ozarianivka towards Druzhba. Clashes with Ukrainian Army continue at the western outskirts of Mayorsk.
On eastern front, Ukrainian Army made new advances east of Stelmakhivka and troops are slowly aproaching to Kolomyichykha town.
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Не знам зошто Русите имаат голем проблем околу Бахмут со месеци не можат да ја пробијат како што треба одбраната.
Автоматски споено мислење:
Situation around Bakhmut: Russian Army & DPR forces regained southern part of Fedora Maksymenka street and reached the outskirts of Miasokombinat district. On the other hand, Ukrainian Army regained some positions in Opytne suburb.
Situation south of Bakhmut: Russian Army & DPR forces advanced south of Ozarianivka towards Druzhba. Clashes with Ukrainian Army continue at the western outskirts of Mayorsk.
On eastern front, Ukrainian Army made new advances east of Stelmakhivka and troops are slowly aproaching to Kolomyichykha town.
Украинците на еден напад и пробив до 30км овие со месеци...
Сепак доколку успеат да го завземат до крајот на јануар Бахмут им се отвора ширум вратата за Славјанск и Краматорск места на кои има огромна концентрација на украински сили.
Друго, гледам видеа на огромна руска техника која веќе влегува во Белорусија прашањето е дали има можност да се повтори 24.02 само во некакви пошироки размери ??? или пак преку Белорусија да навлезат се до Лавов каде би ја отсекле Украина од секаква надворешна помош.
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Некои извори кажуваат дека продорот од Белорусија ќе биди ноќта 25/26 декември, а Бериќ вели не пред Јануари-средина на Февруари
Премалку опрема имаат во Белорусија за да се започни фронтален напад од таков вид
А за Бахмут...највероватно на сите лини па и тука русите упорно бомбардираат за да ја ослабнат воената моќ на укрите, а за одење напред највероватно се чека команда
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Мое мислење објективно е да не се напаѓаат големите градови (пример Харков, Киев, Запорожје, Одеса) директно бидејќи така се ризикува голема загуба на војници - еден човек е потребно многу време да се издигне, а да го снема е потребна 1 секунда.
Второ, руската армија доколку сака победа да се концентрира на уништување на ПВО кога ќе го нема ПВО-то тогаш можеш со авијација да правиш што сакаш.
Многу погрешна процена направија на почетокот и затоа толку голема цена платија.
Автоматски споено мислење:
Потполно се согласувам. Ако го познавате израелско-арапскиот конфликт ќе видите како во неколку наврати ИДФ напаѓа уште пред да дојде до голема ескалација. Едноставно луѓето си имаат добра разузнавачка служба, добиваат информација и уште пред непријателот да биде спремен го напаѓаат и така елиминираат мал проблем кој подоцна можел да прерасне во нешто поголемо.
Кваката е во тоа што руската страна потфрли со нејзината тајна служба и инфомацијата околу Украина, тие мислеа дека туку-така ќе влезат во Киев, Харков, Одеса, па еве гледаме каде се сега.
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Би ти користело да ги пролисташ барем последниве стотина страници.
Да се информираш. Да не се повторуваме пак со истите работи за секој нов дискутант.
Добредојде на дискусијата. Се надевам дека ќе придонесеш со нешто повеќе од повторување на истите празни муабети кои се десетици пати дискутирани до смрт.
Да се информираш. Да не се повторуваме пак со истите работи за секој нов дискутант.
Добредојде на дискусијата. Се надевам дека ќе придонесеш со нешто повеќе од повторување на истите празни муабети кои се десетици пати дискутирани до смрт.
Немој ни случајно да ја критикуваш Русија. Тоа автоматски значи дека си евреин нацист, со лгбт ориентација, силно подлегнат под западна пропаганда.
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^^ Сега на пола украинска армија колективно им течат лиги додека со мобилните во рака ја снимаат секоја битка во надеж дека ќе го снимат првото уништување на Т-14... Иако ништо чудно ова да е само пи-ар потег и тоа повеќе за домашната јавност. Глејте тенкови во магла. 
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To the chagrin of many Americans, the war in Ukraine continues to grind on. The ramifications of the Biden proxy war extend far past spending. It includes using presidential draw-down authority to pull hundreds of millions in weapons and anti-air missile systems from American stockpiles. Biden's newly announced pledge to send Patriot missiles to Ukraine means we may be short weapons if a problem comes up somewhere else.
This is why NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg commenting on the state of Russia-West relations said "Even if the fighting ends, we will not return to some kind of normal, friendly, relationship with Russia. Trust has been destroyed." He claimed that NATO sought to build positive relations with Russia immediately after the Cold War - despite the fact it expanded to Russia's doorstep soon after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Some of us take the position that this was all set in motion by the U.S. choreographed coup in Kiev eight years ago under the Obama Administration. It would be hard to overstate the significance those events played in creating the situation currently before us. Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger is one of those calling for urgently finding a path of negotiated settlement to the war in Ukraine. He warns the entire world is in danger as nuclear-armed superpowers inch closer to a disastrous confrontation.
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Sadly, US senator Bernie Sanders on Tuesday agreed, due to fairly intense pressure from the White House, to withdraw the so-called ‘Yemen War Powers’ resolution from a vote in the Senate. The crucial bill would have restricted US military involvement in war-torn Yemen and reasserted Congress’ war-making authority. As a footnote, the word was put out that President Joe Biden would most likely veto the bill passed if it passed. White House officials said the bill “could complicate the effort to back Ukraine in its war against Russia.”
Recently, in a phone call, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky "thanked" President Joe Biden for the "unprecedented defense and financial assistance that the U.S. provides to Ukraine." that of course did not stop him from asking for billions more. So far the total that has been either proposed, pledged, or enacted exceeds a mind-boggling $100 billion. With every billion dollars representing roughly three dollars for every man woman and child in America, this means it has already cost each of us around 300 dollars. When you consider how many people, such as children and those barely getting by don't share in this burden, the amount placed upon each taxpayer soars. Much of this money has been doled out with little oversight.
It is important to remember that under Biden's tutelage this "conflict" has become not so much about defending Ukraine but ending Putin and Russia. It is not about the people of Ukraine but much more. The Ukrainian people and much of Europe have become mere pawns in a game. Unfortunately for the Biden camp, for all the money being poured into this "theater" it would be naive to think Putin will not achieve his goals or come out of this conflict the victor.
Автоматски споено мислење:
Ukrainian Narrative Continues To Morph Ugly
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To the chagrin of many Americans, the war in Ukraine continues to grind on. The ramifications of the Biden proxy war extend far past spending. It includes using presidential draw-down authority to pull hundreds of millions in weapons and anti-air missile systems from American stockpiles. Biden's newly announced pledge to send Patriot missiles to Ukraine means we may be short weapons if a problem comes up somewhere else.
This is why NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg commenting on the state of Russia-West relations said "Even if the fighting ends, we will not return to some kind of normal, friendly, relationship with Russia. Trust has been destroyed." He claimed that NATO sought to build positive relations with Russia immediately after the Cold War - despite the fact it expanded to Russia's doorstep soon after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Some of us take the position that this was all set in motion by the U.S. choreographed coup in Kiev eight years ago under the Obama Administration. It would be hard to overstate the significance those events played in creating the situation currently before us. Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger is one of those calling for urgently finding a path of negotiated settlement to the war in Ukraine. He warns the entire world is in danger as nuclear-armed superpowers inch closer to a disastrous confrontation.
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Sadly, US senator Bernie Sanders on Tuesday agreed, due to fairly intense pressure from the White House, to withdraw the so-called ‘Yemen War Powers’ resolution from a vote in the Senate. The crucial bill would have restricted US military involvement in war-torn Yemen and reasserted Congress’ war-making authority. As a footnote, the word was put out that President Joe Biden would most likely veto the bill passed if it passed. White House officials said the bill “could complicate the effort to back Ukraine in its war against Russia.”
Recently, in a phone call, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky "thanked" President Joe Biden for the "unprecedented defense and financial assistance that the U.S. provides to Ukraine." that of course did not stop him from asking for billions more. So far the total that has been either proposed, pledged, or enacted exceeds a mind-boggling $100 billion. With every billion dollars representing roughly three dollars for every man woman and child in America, this means it has already cost each of us around 300 dollars. When you consider how many people, such as children and those barely getting by don't share in this burden, the amount placed upon each taxpayer soars. Much of this money has been doled out with little oversight.
It is important to remember that under Biden's tutelage this "conflict" has become not so much about defending Ukraine but ending Putin and Russia. It is not about the people of Ukraine but much more. The Ukrainian people and much of Europe have become mere pawns in a game. Unfortunately for the Biden camp, for all the money being poured into this "theater" it would be naive to think Putin will not achieve his goals or come out of this conflict the victor.