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Zelensky is traveling to the US to present his plan, which some sources have claimed has three points, which I outlined last time, but as reminder:
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Putin released his new statement regarding the recent developments about potentially greenlighting these deep strikes into Russia. He makes an extremely significant point that most people have missed, which explains why, specifically, Russia considers this as a direct involvement by NATO in the war.
Most people simply assumed that Russia fears having some important rear areas being destroyed. But what Putin points out is the distinction between Ukraine’s own paltry drone strikes deep into Russia, which can be carried out by Ukraine acting independently, with the long range strikes of these advanced weapons systems which require direct Western integration, support, and ultimately, participation in the strikes. That’s because many of these systems, like the Storm Shadows, as it was explained to us long ago, require the originating country’s direct involvement in programming the coordinates into them, not to mention the initial satellite surveillance necessary for obtaining the targeting itself.
This was why, you may recall, Germany expressly forbid sending Taurus missiles, as it was declared that German technicians would need to be on the ground directly programming the targeting solutions into the missiles, which would mean their explicit involvement in the war as combatants. You can hear the leaked German Army call discussing precisely this, here.
For those that still don’t understand, let me explain a little more clearly: when Ukraine sends its cardboard drones to Moscow, it can get the coordinates on google maps or whatever other open source database, and does not really need Western involvement. But advanced missiles and weapons systems are often run by proprietary software that requires special keys, programs, equipment, etc., to input the coordinates into them which cannot be done by the Ukrainians themselves, because giving them such digital ‘keys’ could compromise the entire system even in the home NATO countries in case of future conflict.
Thus, Putin is saying that for these systems to strike deep into Russia would necessarily mean NATO would be directly involved as a combatant in striking Russian territory in a more express way than ever before. The most obvious immediate Russian response would likely be to arm the Houthis with advanced anti-ship missiles which would straightaway endanger the entire US fleet.
The ramifications of this are far greater than most can imagine, given the cascading effect it would have. The US fleet is there to deter Iran and Hezbollah in protecting Israel. Should the Houthis possess an ability to completely cripple the US fleet, the falling chips would be: Israel’s defeat, which would mean the entire Empire’s defeat in the Middle East as Iran would reign supreme. This catastrophic sequence of events would result in the entire eventual collapse of the Western order. As such, the US obviously would not like to risk this scenario.
From today’s NY Times article, this angle is confirmed:
Further down, they note again:
А освен тоа го имаме и следново:
there have been some odd new reports claiming that drones flying from either Norway or Finland have been attacking Murmansk, with radar maps showing various NATO aircraft surveilling Russia’s borders at the time of the attack:
And a last report which makes an interesting connection to the A-22 repurposed drone craft that Ukraine used in a failed attempt to strike Olenya strategic base near Murmansk:
Насловот како да е директно од Вавилнската Пчела: „Русија окупира 10 руски села!“
Zelensky's Last Hail Mary Gets Off to Rocky Start
It seems every news cycle there is now some major new development surrounding Ukraine, which threatens to plunge the war into some elevated state of risk and threat.
simplicius76.substack.com
Putin released his new statement regarding the recent developments about potentially greenlighting these deep strikes into Russia. He makes an extremely significant point that most people have missed, which explains why, specifically, Russia considers this as a direct involvement by NATO in the war.
Most people simply assumed that Russia fears having some important rear areas being destroyed. But what Putin points out is the distinction between Ukraine’s own paltry drone strikes deep into Russia, which can be carried out by Ukraine acting independently, with the long range strikes of these advanced weapons systems which require direct Western integration, support, and ultimately, participation in the strikes. That’s because many of these systems, like the Storm Shadows, as it was explained to us long ago, require the originating country’s direct involvement in programming the coordinates into them, not to mention the initial satellite surveillance necessary for obtaining the targeting itself.
This was why, you may recall, Germany expressly forbid sending Taurus missiles, as it was declared that German technicians would need to be on the ground directly programming the targeting solutions into the missiles, which would mean their explicit involvement in the war as combatants. You can hear the leaked German Army call discussing precisely this, here.
For those that still don’t understand, let me explain a little more clearly: when Ukraine sends its cardboard drones to Moscow, it can get the coordinates on google maps or whatever other open source database, and does not really need Western involvement. But advanced missiles and weapons systems are often run by proprietary software that requires special keys, programs, equipment, etc., to input the coordinates into them which cannot be done by the Ukrainians themselves, because giving them such digital ‘keys’ could compromise the entire system even in the home NATO countries in case of future conflict.
Thus, Putin is saying that for these systems to strike deep into Russia would necessarily mean NATO would be directly involved as a combatant in striking Russian territory in a more express way than ever before. The most obvious immediate Russian response would likely be to arm the Houthis with advanced anti-ship missiles which would straightaway endanger the entire US fleet.
The ramifications of this are far greater than most can imagine, given the cascading effect it would have. The US fleet is there to deter Iran and Hezbollah in protecting Israel. Should the Houthis possess an ability to completely cripple the US fleet, the falling chips would be: Israel’s defeat, which would mean the entire Empire’s defeat in the Middle East as Iran would reign supreme. This catastrophic sequence of events would result in the entire eventual collapse of the Western order. As such, the US obviously would not like to risk this scenario.
From today’s NY Times article, this angle is confirmed:
Further down, they note again:
Автоматски споено мислење:
А освен тоа го имаме и следново:
there have been some odd new reports claiming that drones flying from either Norway or Finland have been attacking Murmansk, with radar maps showing various NATO aircraft surveilling Russia’s borders at the time of the attack:
Here’s an animated one showing two Swedish recon flights—the S102B and TP 102C SIGINT planes:
The enemy is trying to attack the Olenya strategic aviation airbase in the Murmansk region
2 drones were shot down near the village of Vysoky. Preliminary, the Ukrainian Armed Forces tried to attack the Olenya airfield with an A-22 Flying Fox UAV, the media writes.
RVvoenkor
The same has continued around Kaliningrad:
And a last report which makes an interesting connection to the A-22 repurposed drone craft that Ukraine used in a failed attempt to strike Olenya strategic base near Murmansk:
Автоматски споено мислење:
свака част на порталот Скопје, достигна ново ниво
Насловот како да е директно од Вавилнската Пчела: „Русија окупира 10 руски села!“
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Не знам дали имаш 15 години, или немаш 2 грама мозок. Навистина сте отидени со паметот со тие нуклеарките секој ден од уста што не ги вадите.
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Ти си мутав, али мутав не може да знае дека е мутав....тоа е трагедијата за некои.
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Во ред, оди сеа Ред Алерт пушти и издркај го еднаш
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Не мора да ги игнорираш. Доволно е да прифатиш дека и другите држави имаат, и дека никој нема да употреби. Не мора да тупиш секој ден те едно исто.
Последно уредено:
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Јака логика, значи сите имаат и ако американците или британците ги напаѓаат со крстосувачи ракети длабоко у руска територија русите не треба да користат нуклеарно оружје затоа што сите имаат....у уста ве ебам неписмена.
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Не бе, твојава логикта е појака. Летаат нуклеарки на сите страни светот оди у курац, а Путин пие вино и го гледа тој свечен чин на 100 инчен монитор.
polska ima? germanija? bugarija? romanija?
seriozno mislis deka ako rusite go sprzat berlin ke letaat nuklearki?
da ne pravime muabet za varsava ili sofia.
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Не е Путин тој што ќе гледа на монитор, не е Русија таа што ја нападна САД. Ама ти си ограничен, мутав.
polska ima? germanija? bugarija? romanija?
seriozno mislis deka ako rusite go sprzat berlin ke letaat nuklearki?
da ne pravime muabet za varsava ili sofia.
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Ќе ви го изгори гзот Путин па ќе квичите
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Неписмена џукела, заради вакви морони американциве ја гураат цела Европа у кнофликт.polska ima? germanija? bugarija? romanija?
seriozno mislis deka ako rusite go sprzat berlin ke letaat nuklearki?
da ne pravime muabet za varsava ili sofia.
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Не бе, другиве се со лак и стрела и камења. Оди легни си вошкар еден. 2 чисти немаш во тоа тикватаpolska ima? germanija? bugarija? romanija?
seriozno mislis deka ako rusite go sprzat berlin ke letaat nuklearki?
da ne pravime muabet za varsava ili sofia.
Автоматски споено мислење:
Никој никого нема да изгори
kopilj, da bas so lak i strela se.... ajde kolku nuklearki ima bugarija i polska daj da slusneme?