Второ, покажи ми ЕДЕН, ЕДИНСТВЕН атеист од т.н. Founding Fathers..?
Извини што ќе ти постирам некои извадоци од Докинс на англиски, доцна е за преведување:
SECULARISM, THE FOUNDING FATHERS AND
THE RELIGION OF AMERICA
It is conventional to assume that the Founding Fathers of the
American Republic
were deists. No doubt many of them were,
although it has been argued that the greatest of them might have
been atheists. Certainly
their writings on religion in their own time
leave me in no doubt that most of them would have been atheists
in ours. But whatever their individual religious views in their own
time, the one thing they collectively were is
secularists...
...The religious views of the Founding Fathers are of great interest
to propagandists of today's American right, anxious to push their
version of history. Contrary to their view, the fact that the United
States was not founded as a Christian nation was early stated in the
terms of a treaty with Tripoli, drafted in 1796 under George
Washington and signed by John Adams in 1797:
As the Government of the United States of America is not,
in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has
in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion,
or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never
have entered into any war or act of hostility against any
Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no
pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce
an interruption of the harmony existing between the two
countries.
The opening words of this quotation would cause uproar in today's
Washington ascendancy....
The paradox has often been noted that the United States,
founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in
Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by
its constitutional monarch, is among the least. I am continually
asked why this is, and I do not know. I suppose it is possible that
England has wearied of religion after an appalling history of interfaith
violence, with Protestants and Catholics alternately gaining
the upper hand and systematically murdering the other lot...
--- надополнето: 6 јануари 2012 во 03:42 ---
Иако не сум атеист, ми пречи оваа традиција на деистички критериуми според кои религиозните луѓе се „поморални“ од атеистите. Во вистински секуларна држава, религијата е сосема одвоена од политиката
Баш околу ова, пред малку го скратив цитатот за да не замарам со англиски, но само за потврда дека си во право:
All the Founding Fathers, whatever
their private religious beliefs, would have been aghast to read the
journalist Robert Sherman's report of George Bush Senior's answer
when Sherman asked him whether he recognized the equal citizenship
and patriotism of Americans who are atheists:
'No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they
be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.
Интересно е што не кажуваш свое мислење, туку го пренесуваш ставот на Латас.