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тогаш ваков тип (за производство на ел. енергија, не за затоплување на вода) е прескап дури и за едно ЕУ домаќинство.
Еве некои проценки на ниво на домаќинство
њама леб од сончева енергијаОва сигурно не важи за случајот на Струмикс пошто тој сака да ја загрева/догрева водата, а не да произведе ел. енергија за домот како што разбрав.
Овој отишол чекор понатаму па пресметал дека на сончевите панели му треба едно 100 години за да ја вратат инвестицијата
Еве некои проценки на ниво на домаќинство
Solar power is still not cost effective with photovoltics (PV) costing in the neighborhood of 30 cents per kilowatt and 20-22 cents per kilowatt for solar thermal plants. Taxpayers subsidize this inefficient roll out of solar panels by way of government (on the backs of taxpayer) subsidized incentives instead of waiting for the technology to improve.
Solar thermal essentially uses mirrors to heat water or other liquids, turn it into steam that cranks turbines to provide electricity. PV, by contrast, takes the rays of the sun and converts it into electricity without water or a turbine.
There is hope in a company called Ausra (manufactures a solar thermal product) who have developed technology that cuts the cost of solar thermal to 8 cents per kilowatt. They use batteries to provide power when the sun isn't shining.
Solar panels for PV use the same expensive silicon that computer chips do. The shortage of the silicon is driving up prices. It is not clear if or when at all that solar power will become cost competitive with oil, coal or nuclear power.
I recently got an estimate to have solar panels installed at my home. In five to seven years the system will pay for itself. The life of the system is 20-25 years. That sounds really impressive until you consider that the real ROI without government subsidies and those shadowy solar energy credits is probably closer to 12-15 years. Then add potential maintenance costs. WOW! That’s not a low price! And that is a system that feeds directly to the grid. In other words, the grid is your battery. I wanted solar in case something happened to the grid. What most places are willing to sell me, won’t work if the grid goes offline. Great.
иThe last time I looked, the interest on what it would cost to go off-grid exceeded what I pay for grid energy. That didn’t even consider depreciation (batteries aren’t forever), the likely increase in my insurance premium, or the jump in my property tax assessment. I haven’t run the numbers, but I suspect that even if somebody *gave* me the PV panels, I still couldn’t afford to go off-grid.
Travis Bradford е автор на блог и напис Solar energy is cost-effective nowSo…is anyone here actually running their house and vehicles off of solar power then?
I don’t think so.
Is Travis Bradford?
Why is that?
њама леб од сончева енергијаОва сигурно не важи за случајот на Струмикс пошто тој сака да ја загрева/догрева водата, а не да произведе ел. енергија за домот како што разбрав.
Овој отишол чекор понатаму па пресметал дека на сончевите панели му треба едно 100 години за да ја вратат инвестицијата
Solar panels 'take 100 years to pay back installation costs'
By Martin Hickman, Consumer Affairs Correspondent
Solar panels are one of the least cost-effective ways of combating climate change and will take 100 years to pay back their installation costs, the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (Rics) warned yesterday.
In a new guide on energy efficiency, Rics said that roof panels for heating water and generating power are unlikely to save enough from bills to make them financially viable in a householder's lifetime. In the case of solar panels to heat water for baths and showers, the institution estimates the payback time from money saved from electricity and gas bills will take more than 100 years – and up to 166 years in the worst case.
Photovoltaic (PV) panels for power – and domestic, mast-mounted wind turbines – will take between 50 and 100 years to pay back.
Given that the devices have a maximum lifetime of 30 years, they are never likely to recoup the £3,000 to £20,000 cost of their installation, according to Rics' building cost information service. Instead, it suggested people wanting to cut fuel bills should insulate lofts and cavity walls, install efficient light bulbs and seal windows.
Joe Martin, author of Rics' Greener Homes Prices Guide, said there was an argument for installing solar panels but it was not an economic one. "We wanted to bring some reality to this because there are a lot of missionaries out there. The whole push for household renewable power is that you can do these things and make back money but that's not true on existing property," he said.
The solar power industry accused Rics of failing to take account of the rising cost of energy and other financial benefits of renewable power in its figures. Jeremy Leggett, of Solar Century, said: "They are grossly irresponsible."
Rics assessed the cost, annual savings, disruption and payback time of various energy-saving methods and gave each an overall rating of one to five stars.
Solar panels for heating and power and wind turbines generating between 3kW and 5kW merited two stars. Smaller 1.5kW turbines of the type installed on roofs paid back in 25 years, received a three-star rating.
By contrast, cavity wall insulation had a five-star rating: spending £440 would save £145 a year in fuel bills, paying back in three years, while an investment of £325 in extra loft insulation would save £60 annually, paying back in five years.
The figures were compiled before energy companies put up bills by up to 30 per cent last month and ignore state subsidies.
Last year, the Department for Trade and Industry slashed grants for the installation of household renewable power by 83 per cent, infuriating the fledgling micro-generation industry which complained the move rendered solar panels unaffordable to all but the wealthy.
Jeremy Leggett, executive chairman of Solar Century, complained that Rics' figures failed to assume any rise in energy prices, when a conservative estimate of 10 per cent a year would transform the calculations.
In addition, Rics had failed to take account of a number of other benefits – renewable obligations certificates worth £160 a year to householders from next year; reductions in energy consumption of up to 40 per cent for schemes with a meter; the rising payments from energy companies for spare electricity put back into the national grid; and the increased value of an energy-efficient home.
He estimated the current payback of power-generating PV panels was 13 years.
Rics countered by saying it had not taken account of maintenance costs and that it deliberately chose not to include "ifs" in its figures. "I doubt however you do the sums, they [solar panels] make sense," a spokesman said.