МАКЕДОНСКОТО ВОСТАНИЕ ПРОТИВ БУГАРИТЕ

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Пере, комуникацијата на Ерменија со Македонија не одела по северниот брег на Црното море, туку по јужниот каде била расптостелена на времето Македонската империја, Селеукидите, а подоцна и “Византија“.

Бугарите се движеле по северниот дел на црното море.

Гледајќи ги сликите, природно ми се наметнува Охрид да биде на Азовското море.
Тоа да биде центарот од каде би се ширела бугарштината. :D
 
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Да, ама комуникациjата на арменските Бугари е била одгоре (од север). Немало е друг начин да се заобиколи пустото му Црно море...
 
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Да, ама комуникациjата на арменските Бугари е била одгоре (од север). Немало е друг начин да се заобиколи пустото му Црно море...
- Да, тие заедно со скандинавските, германските и француските бугари се движеле од север бидејки од југ им било вруќина. :facepalm:
 

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Побугарениов спомна "Ерменски бугари".:pos: :nesvest:
 
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anaveno

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Bulgar city is situated about 200 km from Kazan city but it is worth seeing. Hundreds of years ago Bulgar city was the most powerful city of Volga Bolgars people - Tatar people ancestors.

In Central Asia and Iran the best leather and leather footwear is called Bolgar since that time.

The coat of arms of Russian Tatarstan republic consists of winged snow leopard with round shield sideways. The front right pad is uplifted. The sun's disk is a background. Tatar people national ornamental pattern is framing the whole composition. The inscription means "Tatarstan" . The wings of snow leopard consist of seven feathers, the shield rosette consists of eight petals. The colors of Tatarstan republic coat of arms are the colors of Tatarstan national flag.

Where do the Bolgars of the Volga come from? As early as AD 550, Gothic annals mention the Turkic tribes of Bolgars living to the north of the Black Sea. The powerful state of the Bolgars in the Black Sea area held out in the wars with Byzantium, but fell under the pressure of the Turkic Khazars, a vanished people, who dominated much of Eurasia in the seventh century.

P.S. Bidejki dobiv poraki deka nie demek sme zboruvale bugarski, duri i kucinjata i pesovite laele po bugarski:

Kuche=1. koccinAya;2 kokku.=1. a small species of dog from Cochin;2.wild dog

Pes,pazac=1. Pazu;2. pazva4s,3.pEy=1. a domestic or sacrificial animal;3. madness, as of a dog

Zalaja= zayAlu= m. a dog

Zagar=zaGkhakarNa=m. `" shell-eared "'N. of one of Siva's attendants L. ; of a dog Vcar

ovcar(ski) pes=of a dog Vcar

Vaka, javno, gitla od t.n. ProtoIndoEvropski jazik!

Blgarite bile I SE TURKI, CIJ JAZIK NE E PIE!
Pa, lajte si uste poveke....
 
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Добре де - нека бидат ерменските Бугари



Арменците принадлежат к'м онези малочислени народи, които в'преки древността на произхода си с'штествуват и днес. Те спадат к'м народите от аријската раса.Според нај-стари данни, с'временните арменци произлизат от древни балкански племена, смесили се с фригијците и предвождани от Армениус, са преминали от Балканскија полуостров в Мала Азија. От името на вожда им Армениус, според гр'цки и римски историци или от царја им Арам, според арменски историци, този народ носи името арменци.
 
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anaveno

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In modern Chinese the Bulgarians are known as 'ba-go' or 'bao- guo',:nesvest: and B. Simeonov:nesum::nesum: concludes that the ancient word 'bulgar' should occur as 'pu-ku' :vozbud:or 'bu-gu'.:pos2:

Exactly the same name of a tribe or a group of tribes is repeatedly mentioned in different Chinese sources from 103 BC up to the 8-th century AD. They speak about a people or tribe pu-ku/bu-gu inhabiting the western as well as the eastern parts of Central Asia...:pos2:


Statuette of a Macedonian soldier, from a 3rd century BC burial site north of the Tian Shan, Urumqi Xinjiang Museum (drawing).


Mozebi ovoj ve narekol TUTO BULGARI?:pos2:
Sreka sto ne "svalil shapkata"...
gu-gu;ga-ga;ra-ra:pos2:

P.S. Mozebi bulgarite se izgubenite Acevi vojnici vo Kina?:toe::pos2:

Добре де - нека бидат ерменските Бугари

Begaj be,TURSKITE BUGARSKI PLEMINJA POZNATI KAKO RAZNI BULGARI, SITE SE NARECENI SPORED REKITE OD STEPITE NA AZIJA.

Kakvi Ermenii, kakvi bakraci. Ta ne ste vie ALBANCI? Ili ste?
 
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Овоj боец е мирмидонец (видно од шлемот) А Мирмидонците са Бугари.. Така е рекол Jован Малала:

Ахил замина заедно с Атридите,
като водел своја собствена војска
от три хилјади души, наричани тогава
мирмидонци, а сега б'лгари.

 
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anaveno

Гостин
izgleda,vie ste SHQIPTARI.
Sakas Armenska istorija a?

eve ti:
ON THE PROBLEM OF AUTOHTONITY OF THE TURKIC POPULATION OF GARABAG

First of all we need to remember that such names as Girdman, Barda, Gandja, Shirvan/ Barsel are etymologized from the Turkic language and corresponds to the Turkic world outlook. Kalankaytukskiy mentioned in his "History of Albanians" about the Trtu river [93]. This river is present "Ter-ter" river is situated in Azerbaijan. Considering that the Albanians as Bulgar- Oguz were the main part of the Skifians we can make some parallel. The city of Volga Bulgarian- "Bulgar" of the medieval authors was situated near the city of "Saksin" [94].
The historic Caucasian Albaniya was a part of the historic Sakasena/ Shakashena [95].
We above pointed that the carriers of the ethnonims of Sklavin/ as- Sakaliba were Bulgarins and not Slavs.
But the Arabians historians and geographians called Volga (Bolga-r) [96] "nahr as- Sakaliba".

Describing the Teymurlang's war against Tokhtamish khan Nizameddin Shami wrote: "Emir Teymurlang went to the travel and was ready to the persecution of Tokhtamish. Passing through Itil (Volga), called among the Turkic peoples as Turatur, achieved to the enemy" [97]. Thus, as we may see from the source one of the names of the Volga river Turatur is not only analogical to the Trtu of Ka-lankaytukskiy but as Trtu and Turatur are in the lands of the same people-the Skifians-Bulgar in the following sources. According to the Bible tradition Kalankaytunskiy is linking Albans to the Keturi-ans [98].

Herodotus notes that the grand son of Skif from Arpaksay was Katiar [99]. We can not consider these facts as accidental: The leader/ Basilefs of the Caucasian Albani-ans Zaber (this name is etymologized from the Turkic Chapar [100]- "messenger"), the leader of the Bulgar living near to the Black sea who is mentioned in relation with the 558 events - Zabergan.

Al Bakuvi citating of Kazvini notes that one of the Saklab city (Bulgar- Alekperov) - was Shushit [101], and one of the cities ofGarabag (on the historic territory of the Caucasian Albaniya) is Shusha. All these facts let us to judge that the Al-banians are the Turkic - Bulgarians, the representatives of the Sako - Oguz tribal unity. Concerning the name of Albaniya/Arran there are not the same opinion.

By re-suming the above mentioned, I would like to stress the role of volf among Albanians/ Bulgars and how the Turkic people manifested it. According to the Turkic tradition "light" is preceded to the Oguz Khagan which is head by "gurd/ volf. In the Gurd word there is "ku/gu" which is meaning, "light", for example "Kuar" (the Khazarian God of rain), Kuman/Polovtsi (the tribal name).

It means we need to take into consideration the ideas of the ancient author Gay Yuliy Solin: "The Albanians. . . are born having white hairs and their white hairs are considered to be the good sign; therefore, the color of the head gave the name for the people" (Alekperov) [102]. On the basis of the above said taking into consideration the synonimic nature of the concepts "ku (t)/ al (p)" as "light", we consider that the name Albaniya derives to the Turkic concept- "a land of fireous (light) men". The name Albaniya is identical to the name of Azerbaijan which does not derive the name ofAtropat (the rulers of Minor Midiya/Atropatena- the IV b. c.) but must be etymologized as a "Land of Fireous Men (Gods)". Finally, comparing the facts ofAl-Khorezmi that Germany is a land of Saklabs (Bulgars) with that Albanians are also the representatives of the Oguz/Bulgars community, we are doing some analogy ALBANIYA (AZERBAIJAN) - (when "b" is transformed into "m") ALMANIYA/GERMANY (103). Resuming the above mentioned we can conclude that the Turkic people are autohtonics not only of Caucasus but also of other places of the Asia and Europe. There-fore, the assortments of the Armenian (Hay) scholars regarding of the ethic origin of the Albanians do not correspond to the reality. It is wellknown that the history is repeated. It is possible that the modern Arme-nian ideologists do not make a conclusion from the history.


gledas toa KU-GU,:vozbud:SHQIPTARSKO (ALBANSKO) IME
koj ima tatkvi iminja Shushi,Shaki,Shako,?
gledas SAKALIBI=SLAVSI?
NEMA SLAVSI ,NEMA 7 ANTI,IMA 7 SAKALIBI=BULGARI,SAMO TURKI BULGARI...

мирмидонци, а сега б'лгари.
mirmidoncite ne ziveele vo Azija i pod shatori....
vie ste izgubena vojska Aceva?
ete vi materijal za nova teorija....
samo kako pozoltevte?
:pos2::pos2::pos2:

BULGAR-SHQIPTAR:nenene:MIRMIDON=MAKEDON
 
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anaveno

Гостин
Taka be Pere, da se znae koj e koj na Balkanot. Leka-poleka, ke se osvestite.

Vie i Shqipot (kako i del od servite) ste vsushnost navodnite Slavsi, od pozadi i od Kavkaz, a ne Karpatite.
Toa go pokazuva i arheologijata, nema nisto otkaj Karpatite.

Seti se na shqipskoto raduvanje za genite. Tie ne razbiraat deka odejki nanazad vo mutaciite, se doaga do famoznite godini na t.n. slavski invazii, nikako porano....
 
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FilipMacedon

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Овоj боец е мирмидонец (видно од шлемот) А Мирмидонците са Бугари.. Така е рекол Jован Малала:

Ахил замина заедно с Атридите,
като водел своја собствена војска
от три хилјади души, наричани тогава
мирмидонци, а сега б'лгари.

Сега сфаќам зошто Божидар Димиртов и таквите како него во Бугарија се опасни по психичко здравје. :pos:
 
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anaveno

Гостин
Нели Кутригурите на Кубер са протерани каj Албаниjа?
Neznam.

Prasaj go Bozho Dimitrov, negovite predci bile so briceni glavi, i toj e istoricar pogolem od Mashala Mahala, i toj kazuva deka ne ste Mirmidonci.

Jas mu veruvam na Bozho, gledash i bratucedite mu mu bile cudni, ne-sloveni, ami azijati.

Slusaj go Bozho i pishi nesto za shalvarite...
 
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Тоа го напишал Jован Малала (Ionnis Malalae), не сум jас авторот. Chronographia, rec. L. Dindorf, Bonnae, 1831, c. 19—97
 

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