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Cruciani et al.’s E-V13 and J2-M12 coalescence times bear a striking similarity to carbon-14-based date calculations for certain archaeological sites in the
Maritsa river valley and its tributaries, near the city of Nova Zagora, Bulgaria (Nilolova, 2002). These sites are associated directly with the proto-Thracian culture of the southern Balkans that came to dominate the region during the first millennium BCE.
Sites surveyed included Ezero, Yunatsite, Dubene-Sarovka and Plovdiv-Nebet Tepe, all of which had deep associations with the developing EBA proto-Thracian culture of the region. It is evident that if Cruciani et al. (2007) are approximately correct in their dating of the expansion of E-V13 from the Balkans, then Oppenheimer’s theory of the role of E3b in Neolithic Britain is flawed fundamentally. E3b1a2 could not have arrived in Britain during the Neolithic era (6.5-5.5 kya) if it had not yet expanded from the southern Balkans.
Бирд
каде виде ти тука територии од Шкипот?
во Велс (Abergil gradot) е мислам најголемиот пик на E1b1b1a2 (E-V13) во Британија.
Тамошните мажи го имаат во процент од 39% (сличен на оној на Косово).
Таму тоа го именуваат како
СЕВЕРНО АФРИКАНСКА ДНК.
и го објаснуваат со присуство на римски војници не од Италија,туку од Северна Африка.
меѓутоа,во околните градови,тој ген го нема.
значи,градот паднал во бунило 2.000 год.?
Hg2 is almost completely absent from North Wales.
Except for the high frequency of hg21 in Abergele, the observed haplogroup frequencies match their geographic distribution in Europe (Rosser et al. 2000). The high frequency of hg21 in Abergele may indicate high genetic isolation and drift in some parts of North Wales, a hypothesis that is consistent both with the tight clustering of Abergele haplotypes within....
и се најде Бирд да ги оправа Арапите во Илири?
кој,всушност ја фура тезата?
тие што имаат најмногу Арапи-Италијанците и Албанците и Грците.
според Хрватите (Marijana Pericic) што ги спомнуваш,стопати ти кажав и постирав линк...дека Шкип=Ром од Шутка.
зошто баш пиковите на тој ген се најголеми во подрачјата што ги освоиле Арапите?
зошто баш оваа теза бриши Арапи,пиши Илири,потекнува од тие бивши Арапски територии?
p.s....
Interestingly,
the Albanians tend to see themselves as descendants of the Illyrians
, but the genetic evidence would seem to support a much greater Thracian presence, in line with the rest of the Balkan peninsula, but at a higher percentage.
In a spirit of compromise, they are sometimes also described as "Thraco-Illyrians," a blending of the two "barbarian" tribal groups north of the Greeks.
Steve Bird
mnogu naucno....
a kompromis za jazikot,arheologija,antropologija,kulturologija....?
p.s..
prepiska na Bird so drugite "cuknati"...
Bird:
Pericic (Kosovo)
R1b-M173 R1a-M17 I1b*-P37 E3b1-M78 J2e-M102 H
I1a
21.2% 13.5% 11.5% 42.3% 1.9% 3.8%
5.8%
Roewer (Albania)
R1b R1a I1b1-P37 and I1b2 E3b J2
H I1a
25% 5% 9% 40% 16%
2% 2%
nekoj cuknat:
On Behalf Of Steven Bird
The H haplotype is typical of
gypsy populations
Piccaso:
iliri sme:pos2:
p.s...
he..he
Piccasoooooo
Hello!
What you think, about Genetic Drift in Kosovo, wbout who accent
Pericic?
Can you tell more about that genetic drift?
Jafety R1b-U152
I think that 45% V-13 in Kosovo is a result of the recent demographic explosion in Kosovo. Albanians were not so numerous there before, in the 19th century. After WWI the healthcare situation improved resulting in a geometric growth of population among minorities who bear many children.
This applies both for Albanians and Roma.
So I think that 4 of 9 "founding patriarch" of the Kosovar population was V-13 by chance (as it is 25% in Albania) and thus the frequency was retained even after the demographic growth.
The same applies for Roma in Hungary for example. Most of them are H1 now (with a population over 800 thousand) as were 100 years ago (but population below 100 thousand). Now H1 makes up more than 5% of Hungary's population, and keeps expanding. Thats how relative haplogroup frequencies can change.
sto ke mu odgovoris,covekot ceka 5 meseci?
p.s...
ova ke bide posledno objasnuvanje,zosto Picasso i Shqipot ne se ancient.
napomnav prethodno,deka i Dienekes grkot potpomognat od Arabo-Subsaharite koi se imenuvaat kako Grci,napravile tabela za generaciite V-13.
za Shqipot soodnosot e ist kako i za vlasite i dostiga do 250 g. po Risteta.
sto znaci toa?
toa znaci,sekoj maz nosi y-hromozom.
odejki nanazad,vo prosek sekoj maz-sin na 25-30 god. se stignuva do spomenatite godini.
potoa,postoi dupka od 10-20 vekovi,sporedeno so presmetkite za juzna gejlada.
ispaga,deka spored V-13,tuka ne ziveele luge.
A Brigite?
vprocem i spored legendite,prvite gejci bile od kaj Arapite.
presmetkite za V-13 go potvrduvaat toa.
Makedoncite (koi Picasso postojano gi spomnuva) se dvizat vo rasponot 235-750 ad.
i ete,vo gejskata propaganda,toa se SLAVSITE,KOI GLEDAME,I HRONOLSO VREMENSKI,ODGOVARAAT NA PROCOPIUS I KOMPANIJA.
arno ama...
V-13 NE E SLAVSKI GEN,GO NEMA VO RUSIJA,POLSKA......V-13 e neli original od tuka?
koi se sega cuknati?
pa koi se togas tie?
najverojatno Turcite vardarioti koi se spomnuvaat vo istorijata i kojznae uste koi ne koi bile doneseni od Romeite.
no,tie,ne se Etnicki Makedonci,onie od Antikata.
mozebi,do denes se pomesani so Etnickite Makedonci,
iako vo istorijata sekogas se spomnuvaat kako posebni grupacii vo Makedonija,barem do 10 vek,i toa e toa.
da e V-13 tolku star na Balkanov kako sto go prikazuvaat,kade e togas da receme vo Turcija?
Zarem koga tamu se odselile Brigite ne odnele gen,celo tursko krajbrezie bilo polno so anticki grci,ilirite ja osnovale troja,Makedoncite tamu imaa carstva,Pergam,Selevkidite i t.n.?
od kade V-13 vo Spanija i Portugalija kade sto nemalo gejski kolonii,a spored istrazuvacite na V-13,toj nastanal tuka i tocka?
znaci,ne e samo da se percis so V-13,treba i da gi razberes y-hromozomite.
ocigledno,Picasso ne gi razbral.
i mnogupati povtoreno,kade e arheologijata,lingvistikata,antropologijata i t.n. za potkrepa na kakva i da bilo teorija?
Picasso ne e nisto podobar od da receme od nekojsi El Peregrino koj na drug forum bara da mu pomognat da si ja najde vrskata so nas tuka,bidejka sega ziveel vo Meksiko,napravil dnk analiza,ima V-13,predcite mu se od Spanija,i spored toa ispaga deka covekot e potomok na Aleksandar Makedonski.
p.s.
i toa defekniot gen kaj Shqipot V-13 (i gejcite,juznoitalijancite,arapite)...
zosto go nema kaj Makedoncite (onie de so ist V-13:kesa
...
kako moze za ist gen,kaj vas da bide defekten gen,a kaj drugi ne?
ti teknuva sega koj e defekten?
defektot ne e mehanicki,tuku e vnatre vo vas,uste od dedo noe....
i poracaj mu na Bird...
od kade R1a vo Britanija?
p.s...
i da bide pojasno,od kade ARABSKI GENI VO BRITANIJA
najtaze od arheologijata
Romans called this god Juppiter Dolichenus, but it was originally an ancient weather god, known to
the Semitic peoples of the Middle East as Hadad and to the Hittites as Teshab.
prasaj go Bird,dali ilirite ili nekoj od Arabija i bliskiot istok mu se molel na ovoj bog,tamu vo Britanija.
p.s.
i uste taze
i prasaj go,bidejki dosega se nemase poim,od koga vo Britanija se noseni geni odvamu-ottamu?
UK's oldest Roman Coin found in Thatcham
Imagine finding a 2,000 year old Roman coin near the ancient path of the Ridgeway that had slipped from the fingers of a Celtic warrior in 207BC. ...
This coin is very important. It means that these Republican denarii were around in Britain
before the Claudian
invasion in AD 43 and possibly even
before Caesar.
A find like this could update all of our history books.
i specijalno...
The silver denarius depicts the helmeted head of Roma on the obverse and the galloping
Dioscuri on the reverse....
