Илири = Словени

[anaveno]

Aminta

Aminta

Aminta=AmI-minAti=to destroy , neutralize..
A74minanta=to vanish , disappear...

amin=sick

 

[anaveno]

Ilir...slobodno mi se diga...
Protoform: *s´ilir-

Meaning: to stand erect

Tamil: ilir (-pp-, -tt-)

Meaning in Tamil: to stand erect as the hair stands on end from fright, etc.; sprout, germinate

Tamil derivates: cilir (-pp-, -tt-) to sprout, shoot, bristle as the hair on the body; cilir-cilir- to get goose-skin from intense emotion; ciluppu (ciluppi-) to bristle; cilumpu (cilumpi-) id., have an uneven surface by the rise of splinters, fibres, etc.; cilumpu, cilukku splinter or fibre rising on a smooth surface of wood

Number in DED: 2565

 

[Vlora]

Ilir...slobodno mi se diga...
Protoform: *s´ilir-

Meaning: to stand erect

Tamil: ilir (-pp-, -tt-)

Meaning in Tamil: to stand erect as the hair stands on end from fright, etc.; sprout, germinate

Tamil derivates: cilir (-pp-, -tt-) to sprout, shoot, bristle as the hair on the body; cilir-cilir- to get goose-skin from intense emotion; ciluppu (ciluppi-) to bristle; cilumpu (cilumpi-) id., have an uneven surface by the rise of splinters, fibres, etc.; cilumpu, cilukku splinter or fibre rising on a smooth surface of wood

Number in DED: 2565

LOL:pos2: Poleka be drugarce, so treses gluposti.

ILIR alb. I LIR - SLOBODEN

Mislam deka ova poubavo stoi

 

[Let 3]

LOL:pos2: Poleka be drugarce, so treses gluposti.

ILIR alb. I LIR - SLOBODEN

Mislam deka ova poubavo stoi

Албански, Албанија, Албанец
Илирски, Илирик, Илир
Сосем различни називи и поими
ќКако настана Албанец од Илир ??
Кој кога го сменил и зошто. Ете на пример Македонија, Македонец, Македонски си останаа исти веќе неколку иљади години а ти велиш дека Албанец е Илир а не наведуваш кој кога ви го смени називот и што беше причината?

 

[anaveno]

LOL:pos2: Poleka be drugarce, so treses gluposti.

ILIR alb. I LIR - SLOBODEN

Mislam deka ova poubavo stoi

freedom=liri, çiltërsi

ilir=liri:pos2:

Proto-IE: *līn-

Meaning: flax

Old Greek: líno-n n. `Lein, -pflanze, Flachs, Leinwand, Linnen, leinenes Bettlaken, (leinener) Faden, Angelschnur, Netz'

Slavic: *lьn'

Baltic: *lin-a- c., -ā^ f.

Germanic: *līn-a- n.; *līn-(i)ōn- f.

Latin: līnum, gen. -ī n. `Lein, Flachs; Faden; Leinwand', linteum `Leinwand, leinene Decke', līnea f. `Leine, leinener Faden; Schnur; Strich, Linie; Umriss, Skizze'

Celtic: OIr līn `Netz', Ir līon `Flax, Netz'; Cymr llin `Flachs, Lein'; lliain, lēine `Hemd' ( < *leiniā ?), Corn lien `Leinen'; Bret lien `Leinen'

Albanian: li, gen. liri (geg. linji) m. `flax'

Russ. meaning: растение (лен)

References: WP II 440 f

ilir..mi se digna (albanija,zemja na visoko,visoka zemja):pos2:
tamam etimologija

 

[Vlora]

Албански, Албанија, Албанец
Илирски, Илирик, Илир
Сосем различни називи и поими
ќКако настана Албанец од Илир ??
Кој кога го сменил и зошто. Ете на пример Македонија, Македонец, Македонски си останаа исти веќе неколку иљади години а ти велиш дека Албанец е Илир а не наведуваш кој кога ви го смени називот и што беше причината?

Lol i za tebe drugar.

[FONT=Arial, verdana, helvetica]Ptolomeu de Alexandria cita, já no Século II d.C., a "tribo de Albanoi", habitantes hoje da Albânia central. Dessa única tribo o nome espalhou-se para incluir o resto do país como Arbri e, finalmente Albânia. Estudiosos não puderam determinar a origem do nome "Shqipëria", com o qual os albaneses denominam sua terra. Acreditam que seja derivada de "shqipe" ou "águia" que se modificou em "shqipria", que quer dizer "a terra da águia". [/FONT]

Ptolemy of Alexandria quotes, already in the Century II AD, the tribe of Albanoi ", today's inhabitants central Albania. Only the name of that tribe spread to include the rest of the country as Arbri and finally Albania. Scholars could not determine the origin of the name "Shqiperia", with which the Albanians call their land. Believe that it is derived from "shqipe" or "eagle" that was changed from "shqipria" which means "the land of the eagle."

http://orbita.starmedia.com/~familia-amato/storia.htm

The name arbëresci (arvanitas) that comes from the name ethnic Arber-ESH (Arben-ESH in the northern dialect) comes from Arber, the former name of Albania, which has its origins in the name of a tribe Illyria, the Albanoi, mentioned by Ptolemy in its geography, in the second century AD.


Pliny mentions a people termed Albonenses among the fourteen petty tribes of the Liburni

 

[AngPu]

LIR isto e i bog na Moreto vo Keltskata mitologija, kojznae e stho e po sredini i original

 

[Vlora]

freedom=liri, çiltërsi

ilir=liri:pos2:

Proto-IE: *līn-

Meaning: flax

Old Greek: líno-n n. `Lein, -pflanze, Flachs, Leinwand, Linnen, leinenes Bettlaken, (leinener) Faden, Angelschnur, Netz'

Slavic: *lьn'

Baltic: *lin-a- c., -ā^ f.

Germanic: *līn-a- n.; *līn-(i)ōn- f.

Latin: līnum, gen. -ī n. `Lein, Flachs; Faden; Leinwand', linteum `Leinwand, leinene Decke', līnea f. `Leine, leinener Faden; Schnur; Strich, Linie; Umriss, Skizze'

Celtic: OIr līn `Netz', Ir līon `Flax, Netz'; Cymr llin `Flachs, Lein'; lliain, lēine `Hemd' ( < *leiniā ?), Corn lien `Leinen'; Bret lien `Leinen'

Albanian: li, gen. liri (geg. linji) m. `flax'

Russ. meaning: растение (лен)

References: WP II 440 f

ilir..mi se digna (albanija,zemja na visoko,visoka zemja):pos2:
tamam etimologija

PA KACHI SE I VIDI GO BALKANOT

I LIR = SLOBODEN

LIRI = SLOBODA

Mislam deka mozes da gi razlikuvas

 

[anaveno]

dosega postiravme i za Ptolomej, i za sto ne za laznite iliri..
Arbor
The questing word maven might think that arbour or arbor derived from arbor Latin ‘tree,’ but it does not. It too is an herbal grandchild, stemming from Old French herbier ‘herb garden’ and transforming down through the years via these way-station forms: herber> erber > arber > arbor > arbour. After this word had begun to be spelled arber, the Latin word for tree arbor, also used in English (e.g. America's ‘Arbor Day’ to celebrate tree planting) began to influence how arber was spelled. In linguistic study, this orthographical influence is sometimes termed attraction.

 

[anaveno]

PA KACHI SE I VIDI GO BALKANOT

I LIR = SLOBODEN

LIRI = SLOBODA

Mislam deka mozes da gi razlikuvas

слободен дух - shpirt i lirë
слободен народ - popull i lirë
слободен,-на,-но - mb. i (e, të) lirë

колку што гледам,се латински зборови:shpirt=spirit
populi=populos

najsmesno vi e imeto Shqip=kamen...:pos2:
od kade samo vi go izmislija zapadnjacite:pos2:

mozevte da bidete od malorka:pos2:
vaka,poveke lici kako çmuar:pos2:

 

[Vlora]

dosega postiravme i za Ptolomej, i za sto ne za laznite iliri..
Arbor
The questing word maven might think that arbour or arbor derived from arbor Latin ‘tree,’ but it does not. It too is an herbal grandchild, stemming from Old French herbier ‘herb garden’ and transforming down through the years via these way-station forms: herber> erber > arber > arbor > arbour. After this word had begun to be spelled arber, the Latin word for tree arbor, also used in English (e.g. America's ‘Arbor Day’ to celebrate tree planting) began to influence how arber was spelled. In linguistic study, this orthographical influence is sometimes termed attraction.

Izvini, ali gledam deka so tebe ne se diskutira. Ja za babi ti za zabi.

So ova nisto ne mi dokazuvas, gluposti. Jas ti kazuvam so kazal Ptolomej i Plin, a ti me tupis so gluposti. A za toa deka e lazna, mislam deka postojat dokumenti od kade sto se izvadeni. Ne se plasi, ne go kazale toa albancite.

Aj pozdrav

 

[Let 3]

Lol i za tebe drugar.

[FONT=Arial, verdana, helvetica]Ptolomeu de Alexandria cita, já no Século II d.C., a "tribo de Albanoi", habitantes hoje da Albânia central. Dessa única tribo o nome espalhou-se para incluir o resto do país como Arbri e, finalmente Albânia. Estudiosos não puderam determinar a origem do nome "Shqipëria", com o qual os albaneses denominam sua terra. Acreditam que seja derivada de "shqipe" ou "águia" que se modificou em "shqipria", que quer dizer "a terra da águia". [/FONT]

Ptolemy of Alexandria quotes, already in the Century II AD, the tribe of Albanoi ", today's inhabitants central Albania. Only the name of that tribe spread to include the rest of the country as Arbri and finally Albania. Scholars could not determine the origin of the name "Shqiperia", with which the Albanians call their land. Believe that it is derived from "shqipe" or "eagle" that was changed from "shqipria" which means "the land of the eagle."

http://orbita.starmedia.com/~familia-amato/storia.htm

The name arbëresci (arvanitas) that comes from the name ethnic Arber-ESH (Arben-ESH in the northern dialect) comes from Arber, the former name of Albania, which has its origins in the name of a tribe Illyria, the Albanoi, mentioned by Ptolemy in its geography, in the second century AD.


Pliny mentions a people termed Albonenses among the fourteen petty tribes of the Liburni

Тоа се келти кои во тоа време поминале низ тие простори и еден дел од нив останал и основал населба која Птолемеј ја споменува како Албанополис (град на АЛБАНОИТЕ) и која исчезнува набрзо кога Келтите заминале или се асимилирале. После тој помен од страна на Птоломеј нема никаков помен на слично име се до 11сти век кога Ана комнен споменува АРБАНОН. Значи 10 века никој нигде никогаш не споменал некакви Албани. Ги нема во ни еден единствен извештак за илирските народи, племиња, а кои биле доста споменувани од страна на историчарите. Во 4ти век ПНЕ, дл од Келтите се иселиле од островот (Велика Британија) ипа преку (денешни) Франција, Швајцарија, Италија, Балканот заминале на Исток и во Азија. На бреговите на Каспиското море, на север и зад градот Баку се наоѓа област АЛБАНИЈА, тоа име му го дадоа Келтите кои таму се населиле затоа што ПРЕД да се населат Келтите, таа област се викала КАШ. Значи настанокот на АЛБАНОПОЛИС или град на АЛБАНОИ е во директна врска со преминување на Келтите (Албион во Шкотска) низ тие простори. Помпеј Трог за нив вели “Велат дека Албаните дошле некогаш со Херкул од Италија од планината Албани, кога по убиството на Херион го носел неговото стадо од Италија“. Значи најверојатно при преселбата на Келтите еден дел на Келтското племе Албанои, останало во областа Мат, и се населиле формирајќи свој град Албанополис кој повече никогаш никаде не се споменува.

 

[anaveno]

Izvini, ali gledam deka so tebe ne se diskutira. Ja za babi ti za zabi.

So ova nisto ne mi dokazuvas, gluposti. Jas ti kazuvam so kazal Ptolomej i Plin, a ti me tupis so gluposti. A za toa deka e lazna, mislam deka postojat dokumenti od kade sto se izvadeni. Ne se plasi, ne go kazale toa albancite.

Aj pozdrav

Ptolemy's Geography - Index of Places na AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA od CEL SVET:

• Abacaena • Abathuba • Abdara • Abdira • Abella • Abellinum • Abi R. • Abieta • Abila columna • Abravannus R. • Abrostola • Abrystum • Abula • Abuncis • Abydos • Abydus • Acabe M. • Acabis • Acamas Pr. • Acanthine I. • Acanthon • Acci • Accipitrum I. • Acelum • Achaeorum Acte • Acholla • Acinippo • Acithius R. • Acmonia • Acoris • Acra • Acrae • Acrath • Acritas Pr. • Acruvium • Aculea • Acusion • Addyme • Adeba • Adra • Adramyttium • Adria • Adru I. • Adrumetus • Adulae M. • Adulis • Aduliticus Bay, Adulis Bay • Aeas M. • Aeculanum • Aedonis I. • Aegaea • Aegara • Aegean Sea • Aegialus • Aegimius I. • Aegitharsus Pr. • Aegusa I. • Aemiliana • Aeminium • Aenesiphyra • Aenesippa I. • Aenona • Aeoli I. • Aeolis • Aequum • Aesepus R. • Aesernia • Aesis • Aesis R. • Aesisium • Aethale I. • Aethiopia below Egypt • Aethiopian M. • Aethusa I. • Aetna • Aetna M. • Aex • Aezani • Africa • African I. • Aganombri M. • Agarum Pr. • Agarus R. • Agatha • Agatha I. • Agathonis I. • Agathyrnum • Agdan • Agedicum • Aginnum • Agna R. • Agrigentinum Emporium • Agrigentum • Agrilium • Agurium • Alaba • Alabanda • Alabastrites M. • Alabastron • Alabus • Alaesa • Alanus M. • Alauna • Alaunus R. • Alavona • Alba • Alba Fucinis • Alba Pompeia • Albaugusta, Alba Augusta • Albi Camini • Albi Clivi • Albiana • Albingaunum • Albintimilium • Albion I. • Albocela • Albus Portus • Aleria • Aleta • Aleta • Aletium • Alexandri Castra • Alexandria • Alexandria Troas • Alibaca • Alinda • Alista • Allifa • Almaena • Alo • Alona • Alontium • Alopecia I. • Alpes Cottiae M. • Alpes Graiae M. • Alpes M. • Alsium • Altar of Neptune • Altars of Alexander • Altars of Caesar • Alternia • Altinum • Aluca • Alvona • Alvum • Alydda • Amadoca • Amadoci M. • Amathus • Amathusia • Ambisna • Ameria • Amici I. • Amiternum • Ammaea • Ammaedara • Ammon • Ammonis • Amorgus I. • Amorium • Ampelos Pr. • Ampsagas R. • Amuncla • Amyzon • Ana R. • Anabis • Anagnia • Anas R. • Anaunium • Ancona • Ancrina • Ancuron city • Ancyra • Andecrium • Andelus • Anderedum • Andomatunnum • Andriaca • Andron city • Anemusa • Angulus • Antaei • Antandrus • Antecuia • Antibacchi I. • Antinoцpolis • Antiochia on the Meander • Antiphellus • Antiphili • Antiphili Portus • Antiphra • Antipolis • Antipyrgos • Antissa • Antium • Antivestaeum Pr. • Anxanum • Apamea • Apamea Cibotos • Apari • Apenestae • Aperlae • Aperroe • Aphrodisia • Aphrodisium • Aphrodisium • Aphroditopolis • Apis • Apocopa • Apollinis Pr. • Apollinopolis Major • Apollinopolis Minor • Apollo Pr. • Apollonia • Apollonia • Apollonia on the Rhyndacus • Appennini M. • Apphar • Apsorrus • Apsorrus I. • Aqua Calida • Aqua Flavia • Aqua Sextia • Aquae Augustae • Aquae Calidae • Aquae Calidae • Aquae Calidae • Aquae Calidae • Aquae Hypsitanae • Aquae Lesitanae • Aquae Neapolitanae • Aquae Quacernorum • Aquileia • Aquilonia • Aquinum • Ara Eratonis Pr. • Ara Minervae I. • Arabriga • Araducca • Araducta • Arae Philaenorum • Arae Sestiorum Pr. • Arandis • Arar R. • Araurus R. • Arausion, Arausio • Arauzona • Araxa • Arba • Arbis • Arcesine • Archile • Arcilacis • Arcilacis • Arcobriga • Arcobriga • Ardanis Pr. • Ardea • Ardotium • Arelatum, Arelate • Arenosum Coast • Argennum Pr. • Argennum Pr. • Argennum Pr. • Argenomescum • Argenteola • Argentoratum • Argentovaria • Argentus R. • Argenua • Argita R. • Argoda • Argyruntum • Aricia • Arimantis • Ariminum • Arina • Aripa • Aritium • Arna • Arnus R. • Aromata • Aromata Pr. • Arpi • Arretium • Arsa • Arsenaria • Arsi • Arsinoл • Arsinoл • Arsinoл • Arsinoл • Artabri • Artamis • Artane • Artigis • Arucci • Aruccia • Arunda • Asana R. • Ascania L. • Ascanius R. • Ascerris • Asculum • Asia • Asindum • Aspis • Aspis • Aspis M. • Aspis Pr. • Aspucca • Assarath • Assarath R. • Assesia • Asso • Assorus • Assurus • Assus • Asta • Asta • Astaboras R. • Astacilis • Astacus • Astapus R. • Astarta I. • Astigis • Asturica Augusta • Astypalaea • Astypalaea I. • Asyla • Asyphus M. • Atagis R. • Atella • Aternus R. • Ateste • Athribis • Atina • Atoa • Atria • Atrianus R. • Attacum • Attii Pr. • Atuatucum • Aturis R. • Audum Pr. • Audus M. • Audus R. • Aufidena • Aufidus R. • Augala • Augila • Augusta Auscorum • Augusta Bagiennorum • Augusta Emerita • Augusta Praetoria • Augusta Rauricorum • Augusta Taurinorum • Augusta Treverorum, Augusta Trevirorum • Augusta Vessonum • Augusta Viromandeum • Augustobona • Augustobriga • Augustobriga • Augustodunum • Augustonemetum • Augustoritum • Augustum • Auritina • Ausa • Ausancali • Ausigda • Ausoba river • Austri Cornu Pr. • Ausum • Autoba • Automalax • Autraca • Autricum • Autuchi Temple • Auximis • Auzia • Avalites • Avalites Bay • Avaricum • Avarus Pr. • Avennion, Avennio • Aventicum • Avia • Avia • Avidus • Avitta • Avium I. • Avus R. • Axiaces R. • Axima • Axume, Axum • Azagarium • Azama • Azar M. • Azicis • Azilis • Azuis

Ptolemy in Book 5 chapter 15 titled "Location of Illyria or Liburnia, and of Dalmatia" (The Fifth Map of Europe) Never mentions the alleged "ALBANOPOLIS" that they support he has, and can be found at 46 degrees and 41 degrees 45', but when you look up what he really has writen, you find the city of Thermidava.

Ptolemy's Goegraphy can be found at : HERE

The Apostle Bartholomew is reported to have labored in the area around the south end of the Caspian Sea, in the section that was then called Armenia. The modern name of the district where he died is Azerbaijan and the place of his death, called in New Testament times Albanopolis, is now Derbend which is on the west coast of the Caspian Sea. The apostle Bartholomew is said to have been martyred in the year 68 AD.
http://www.biblepath.com/bartholomew.html

p.s.
daj da go vidime Albanopolis na mapata na Makedonecot Ptolomej

 

[AngPu]

SHS bez Makedonija

Na sajtot za ilirite http://www.illyrians.org/odyse.html

Probable etymology of Illyria:
Root / lemma: ai̯os- : `metal (copper; iron)' derived from Root / lemma: eis-1 : `to move rapidly, *weapon, iron' as Aɫas(ja), the old name of Cyprus : Hittite PN Wilusa (gr. reading Ilios) [phonetic mutation of the old laryngeal he- > a-, i-]: gall. Isarno- PN, ven. FlN 'Iσάρας, later Īsarcus, nhd. Eisack (Tirol); urir. PN I(s)aros, air. Īär, balkanillyr. iser, messap. isareti (Krahe IF. 46, 184 f.); kelt. FlN Isarā, nhd. Isar, Iser, frz. Isère; *Isiā, frz. Oise; *Isurā, engl. Ure, usw. (Pokorny Urillyrier 114 f., 161); nhd. FlN Ill, Illach, Iller, lett. FlN Isline, Islīcis, wruss. Isɫa, alb. VN Illyrii.

Posle nesto drugo

Here also the Illyrian people's-name Kšrkurej (cf. I–llurej); from there the name of the island? (Schwyzer 66). Acc. to Mayer KZ 70, 76ff. prop. the "oak-island", from the Illyr. word for `oak' to Lat. quercus, Goth. fairguni `mountain' etc. Other combinations in Specht Sprache 1, 40f.

Imase poveke etimologii, samo nemam vreme da gi baram

 

[anaveno]

Pa,ocigledno e deka nekoj saka da go vrze poimot Illyr so Tirolci i Finci,da mu zvuci poevropski.

Gledas kakvi gimnastiki ima kaj gegite,zborovi koi nemaat nikakva etimoloska vrska so jazikot im,se vmetnuvaat kako lazno-ilirski.

korenot ILL nema nikakva vrska so metalite.

A rabotata e prosta.
il=place; house, home; domestic life; wife; lady of rank in towns or forest-pasture tracts; family; constellation, zodiacal sign; clearing-nut
il=non-existence; death; a negative sign
ovie zborovi se i vo korenot na Pelazgite-Makedonidite,i se povrzani so ILIJA-Bog-Svetlina-Nebo

odime na druga grupa zborovi,vazna za Al-Arnautite (onie sto otidoa i ne se vratija,od Kavkaz)...
IL=ilati,iyela,eliSyati,...to come
ilayati,elayati=to keep still , not to move ; to become quiet
Old Germ. i7llu, Mod. Germ. Eile=progress , motion
Il na Caus. P. %{Ila4yati} , to move

Kako sto gledame,ako se i Iliri,togas tie se The Caucasus preselnici,i Arapite,pa Turcite se vo pravo.

Ocigledno,Shqiptarite igraat so ILE (mamat,toa i decata go znaat).