Неутралност 2019та, макар и да завршеше со атентат од азовци. Ќе се жртвуваше ама немаше милиони Украинци да страдаат.
2008 February 1, 14:25 (Friday)
B. MOSCOW 182
Classified By: Ambassador William J. Burns. Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
1. (C) Summary. Following a muted first reaction to Ukraine's intent to seek a NATO Membership Action Plan (MAP) at the Bucharest summit (ref A), Foreign Minister Lavrov and other senior officials have
reiterated strong opposition, stressing that Russia would view further eastward expansion as a potential military threat.
NATO enlargement, particularly to Ukraine, remains "an emotional and neuralgic" issue for Russia, but strategic policy considerations also underlie strong opposition to NATO membership for Ukraine and Georgia.
In Ukraine, these include fears that the issue could potentially split the country in two, leading to violence or even, some claim, civil war, which would force Russia to decide whether to intervene. Additionally, the GOR and experts continue to claim that
Ukrainian NATO membership would have a major impact on Russia's defense industry, Russian-Ukrainian family connections, and bilateral relations generally. In Georgia, the GOR fears continued instability and "provocative acts" in the separatist regions. End summary.
Ова дипломатска комуникација што беше во 2008ма беше извадена од Wikileaks во 2010та и сите што имаат интернет конекција можеа да ја видат и да ја прочитаат.
Wikileaks:
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html
Плус еве, незнам колку беше ова дискутирано на темава, оти е од ланска година Мај. Се работи за Discord Leaks, за жал не се достапни во полн состав на интернет. Ајде можеби ќе ги прикачи некој па ќе можиме да видиме.
The article reveals a stark contrast between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s public image as a composed, statesmanlike figure enduring Russia’s invasion and
his private, more aggressive stance as uncovered in leaked U.S. intelligence documents from the Discord leaks. While Zelenskyy has earned Western trust by refraining from using provided weapons to strike inside Russia,
classified intercepts show him proposing audacious moves to his aides and military leaders. T
hese include occupying Russian border villages to gain leverage in negotiations with Moscow, bombing the Soviet-era Druzhba pipeline supplying oil to Hungary (a NATO member), and seeking long-range missiles to hit Russian targets—actions he’s publicly avoided advocating.
Specific instances include a late January 2023 meeting where Zelenskyy suggested strikes in Russia and troop movements to occupy border cities, and a February meeting with General Valery Zaluzhny where he expressed frustration over Ukraine’s lack of long-range capabilities, proposing drone attacks on Rostov. Another document details his mid-February suggestion to Deputy Prime Minister Yuliya Svrydenko to destroy the Druzhba pipeline to disrupt Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban’s oil-dependent economy. These revelations, part of the broader D
iscord leaks by Jack Teixeira, highlight Zelenskyy’s private willingness to escalate, despite U.S. concerns about provoking a wider conflict.
In an interview with The Washington Post in Kyiv, Zelenskyy dismissed these claims as “fantasies” but defended Ukraine’s right to unconventional tactics given the war’s toll—mass graves, torture, and thousands dead. The article notes U.S. efforts to restrain Ukraine, such as halting planned attacks around the invasion’s anniversary,
reflecting White House fears of nuclear escalation. The leaks, while damaging trust and exposing U.S. spying on allies like Zelenskyy, underscore his determination to shift the war’s dynamics, even if it risks Western unease.