Нуклеарна војна, и загрижувачкиот тренд на неразбирање на последиците од истата

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Имаше синоќа на тв, како им експлодира нивна ракета од 9 мегатона, во силос, во Арканзс, 1980...
Автоматски споено мислење:

Мислам дека заговарањето на војна, уште од 2014 со портокаловата револуција и Мајдан, е поради економската немоќ и Огромните долгови на богатите западни држави, а кој сакаат да ги префрлат на третиот свет
 
Последно уредено:
За овој зборат ќе бил следниот канцелар...

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Имаше синоќа на тв, како им експлодира нивна ракета од 9 мегатона, во силос, во Арканзс, 1980...
Автоматски споено мислење:

Мислам дека заговарањето на војна, уште од 2014 со портокаловата револуција и Мајдан, е поради економската немоќ и Огромните долгови на богатите западни држави, а кој сакаат да ги префрлат на третиот свет
Долгови кон кои, Ротшилд?
За овој зборат ќе бил следниот канцелар...

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После 1945г, поточно после Адолф Хитлер, нема кој да ја води Германија и германците. Германија умре 1945, ова е само кукла.
 
Долгови кон кои, Ротшилд?
После 1945г, поточно после Адолф Хитлер, нема кој да ја води Германија и германците. Германија умре 1945, ова е само кукла.
1. имаат отпечатени премногу долари и евра, а немаат покритие ни во роба, не па во злато
2. буквално се должни на Кина , а да не зборувам и крадење кога ќе им текне, башка замрзнување на иновина.. еден ден се тоа ќе дојде за Наплата, со војните само купуваат време..
 
Ахем, да се задржиме на тема.
 

We are probably closer to a nuclear war than any previous point in my lifetime.
As a Generation X kid who grew up during the Cold War, fear of nuclear war is still a deeply ingrained instinct. We read Alas Babylon in school and saw The Day After to give us a sense of what a nuclear apocalypse might be like. Everyone understood it was the summum malum, the end of civilization as we know it.
The fear of nuclear war did not stop all conflict during the Cold War, but it did ensure that conflicts were limited. During that tense time, there were no world wars or sustained fighting between the nuclear powers themselves. Instead, wars took place among proxies far from the territory of the superpowers, such as the wars in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
A few decades after the end of the Cold War—during which no one was particularly worried about a nuclear war—a new conflict with Russia has arisen due to major disagreements about the nature of the international order and our respective places within it. What began in 2014 as a limited confrontation between Russia and a western-backed Ukraine has evolved into an enormous conventional war.
After the West increased its support to Ukraine following Russia’s 2022 invasion, there was some recognition among western leaders about the dangers of provocation. Even so, such risk has increased in an incremental fashion. At first, western leaders thought it was too much to provide tanks, but soon the West relented, and the Ukrainians received M1 Abrams and Leopard II tanks.
Then, there was a lot of hemming and hawing about providing F-16 fighter jets. This surprised me, as they are not materially better than Ukraine’s MiG-29s, but, apparently, one of the Russian objections was that F-16s can carry nuclear armaments and risk confusion about western intentions. But now Ukraine has these as well.
We have since crossed the last phase line. Having provided Ukraine the Storm Shadow and ATACMS medium-range missiles, we have now authorized their use against Russian territory, in spite of increasingly desperate Russian warnings. After this authorization, Ukraine promptly fired them into Russian territory. Russia claims that these weapons can only be targeted with direct western involvement and that the West is practically and morally responsible for their use.
While Russia has conveyed many warnings, so far it has avoided directly targeting western countries and personnel. This week something different happened. First, after the West’s official authorization to use smart missiles against Russian territory, Russia expanded its nuclear doctrine to authorize the use of nuclear weapons against Ukraine. Then, in response to a Ukrainian attack using these sophisticated weapons, Russia launched several intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM) with multiple independent reentry vehicles (MIRVs) against the Ukrainian city of Dnipro.
This is extremely serious. These launches and missile trajectories can be detected from space through our nuclear warning satellites. While Russia made normal deconfliction communications in advance of the missile launch, it is not clear if anyone on our side knew for certain whether or not the Russian MIRVs had nuclear warheads.
Nuclear warheads are typically the only thing delivered through MIRVs. Perhaps as the hypersonic weapons approached the target, the crews at NORAD were on the edge of their seats with anticipation, like a scene from the movie War Games. Dramatic footage of their impact showed sophisticated, fast-moving warheads that cannot easily be intercepted.
Regardless of anyone’s feelings about the war, Ukraine is not winning, and it will not recover its lost territories. It is not a question of its people’s commitment or the West’s. We have given them everything we could in terms of money and matériel, and they have fought with bravery and tenacity.
But this is a war of attrition, and reality has a vote. Ukraine has far fewer people than Russia, is losing territory at an accelerating pace, has likely lost several hundred thousand men killed, and many of the remaining men are avoiding service, remaining overseas, and building lives elsewhere.
When the conflict devolved into a war of attrition in late 2022, it was pretty clear that there was no realistic prospect for a Ukrainian victory. This was even more clear after the failure of the 2023 Ukrainian summer offensive.
The Kursk incursion earlier this year was supposed to boost Ukrainian spirits and change the strategic landscape. But the initial success of that campaign has proven to be entirely ephemeral, and this risky move accelerated the collapse of the Ukrainian front. It seems western leaders are only coming around to this realization now.
While Joe Biden and Kamala Harris promised to prosecute the war to the maximum extent, Trump made it clear in his presidential campaign that he would force through a peace deal of some kind. This is what the American people chose.
With only a couple of months left in office, Biden could have tried to stabilize things, avoid provocations, and begin negotiations. Such a course would take into account the decision of the American people to reject his Ukraine policy. But, instead, he—or more likely the interventionists of the Deep State like Anthony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, and Victoria Nuland—has taken new and provocative steps in authorizing the use of ATACMs against Ukraine and possibly assisting in their targeting, as Russia claims.
These weapons will not win the war. Ukraine has had access to HIMARS rockets and Storm Shadow long-range missiles for over a year now. While these have hit targets inside Ukraine’s disputed territory and had some effect, Russia has developed various countermeasures, and these weapons have not been enough to turn the tide.
While western rhetoric condemns Putin as an irrational madman, our actions suggest that our leaders believe he is restrained and will remain so. In other words, in spite of many warnings, Biden’s team has proceeded as if Russia is bluffing and will bluff forever. But what if we are wrong?
The Russian use of an ICBM is the first combat usage of such weapons in history. This is a very clear warning that Russia has nearly run out of patience with the West’s practice of incrementally increasing its assistance to Ukraine. Such weapons can reach European capitals in minutes, whether armed with conventional or nuclear payloads.
For NATO and the West, escalating brinkmanship might be justified if victory were in sight, some high principle like anti-communism were involved, or if any of this contributed to American security. But none of these things are true. We are risking the annihilation of the world over a border dispute that has nothing to do with our country or its security. The American people have rejected our continued involvement in this tragic war, but there are unfortunately many opportunities for escalation and miscalculation in the weeks ahead.
The only thing standing between the world and a nuclear war is the rational restraint of Vladimir Putin and any hope he harbors of a deal under President Trump. Let us hope Russia’s leaders remain more rational and restrained than our own in the weeks ahead.
 
Многу важно.

„Kirby, responding to questions about escalation and the possibility of using nuclear weapons, said that Americans do not want escalation, and if there is any nuclear element, their European allies will suffer. In doing so, he implicitly excludes the possibility of the United States being affected.
Lavrov noted that this makes the situation somewhat more dangerous. If this mindset prevails, it may lead to reckless actions, which would be disastrous.“


Со други зборови Кирби кажува дека ако има нуклеарна ескалација: ЕУ вазалите ќе јадат нуклеарки... Ваљда не треба да потсетувам дека тука спаѓа и Македонија.

 
Последно уредено:
Е како бе мислат дека нема да страдаат?

Зарем целото знаење за нуклеарното оружје, неговите можности и начинот на функционирање магично исчезнало кај Американците после крајот на Студената војна?

Какво е тоа размислување?

Еве конкретно - што ќе праат против Сармат?
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Американците ваљда се тешат дека Европа може да се искористи и како бафер зона од Русија за нуклеарки или си прават весели математики дека при нуклеарна ескалација Русија сите нуклеарки ќе ги потроши на европско НАТО а за нив и Канада нема да останат.
 
Американците ваљда се тешат дека Европа може да се искористи и како бафер зона
Ова. И демек Еуропјаните ќе нападнеле ама САД не, па Русите само на ЕУ да врателе... Ќе има тука јасна порака праќање, веројатно и нуклеарна доктрина менување. Ако запукаат нуклеарки кон РФ, да нема сомнеж дека САД секако ќе го јадат лавововскиот дел од рускиот нуклеарен одговор.

САД со ова сакаат да направат притисок, демек еве ние ќе ги жртвуваме еуропските за ЕУ-РФ меѓусебно да се сjeбaт а САД да останат нечепнати.
 
Легендата вели дека @Marquess некогаш некаде напишал мислење кое било подржано со аргументи, и не било спpдaчење и (обид за) тролање. :unsure:
 
И најмирната држава почна фимови да си прави за некаква нуклеарна војна :
 

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