Grcki fkn Lagi
"In all there were about three thousand Hellenic heavy infantry, accompanied by all the Macedonian cavalry with the Chalcidians (also Hellenes), near one thousand strong, BESIDES an immense crowd of barbarians (i.e., non-Hellenes)."
(Thukydides 4.124)
ako Helenite i Makedoncite bile isto, togas zoshto avtorot koristi dva razlichni termini? NEMA POTREBA
i, ako Makedoncite bile Heleni, zoshto pozadi "Macedonian cavalry" ne stoi "also hellenes" ?
ZATOA SHTO MAKEDONCITE nikogas ne bile Heleni.
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"In the past you rivaled the Achaians and the KINSMEN Macedonians and their ruler, Philip, about the hegemony and glory, but now that the freedom of the Hellenes is at stake at a war against an alien people (Romans), ...but now if you invite them do not you see that you invite them against
your ownself and the whole of Hellas. ...And does it worth to ally with the barbarians (i.e., the non-Hellenes) against the Epeirotans, the Achaians,
the Akarnanians, the Boiotians, the Thessalians, almost ALL THE HELLENES with the exception of the Aitolians who are a wicked nation... So Lakedaimo-nians it is good to remember your ancestors,... be afraid of the Romans... and DO ALLY yourselves with t he Achaians and Macedonians. And if the most influential amongst yourselves oppose that then stay neutral and do not side with the unjust.
(Polybios 9.37.7-39.7; Speech of Lyki-skos, the representative of Akarnania)
bidejki avtorot e Grk - e jasno deka zboruvano od Grcko ime
"In the past you rivaled the Achaians and the KINSMEN Macedonians and their ruler, Philip..."
zatoa shto konfliktite megju Atinjanite i nekolku drugi Elenski gradovi-drzavi na edna strana i MAKEDONCITE od druga strana se NEPOBITEN FAKT!!! vo minatoto si "rivaluval, some jedan" s´s Makedoncima i si najebal, brat , Philipco lom te naprail 8) sloboden avtorski prevod :wink:
ponatamu....
"...but now that the freedom of the Hellenes is at stake at a war against an alien people (Romans),..."
koga eden anticki hellen zboruva za sebe i pred svojot narod, normalno deka kje koristi TOCNO takva forma na izrazuvanje ( PRVO LICE MNOZINA - NIE - hellenite)
ponatamu, istiot tekst...
"... be afraid of the Romans... and DO ALLY yourselves with t he Achaians and Macedonians.
AKO ZBORUVAM I PISHUVAM VO PRVO LICE MNOZINA = NIE, treba da sum SHIZOFRENICEN SAM SO SEBE - Makedoncite (ako anticki helleni = anticki makedonci) da pravam nekakvi KOALICII PROTIV RIMJANITE!!!
deka bile pederi starite grci poznato mi e, ama i deka shizofrenicni...
more to come... :viol1:
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"This is a sworn treaty made between us, Hannibal the general, Mago, Myrkan, Barmokar and all other Carthaginian senators present with him,
and all Carthaginians serving under him, on the one side, and Xenophanes the Athenian, son of Kleomachos,
the envoy whom King Philip, son of Demetrios, sent to us on behalf of himself, and
the Macedonians and
allies, on the other side. `In the presence of ZEUS, HERA and APOLLO*; in the presence of the Genius of Carthage; ...and in the presence of all the gods who possess Carthage; and in the presence of
ALL THE GODS
who possess Macedonia AND THE REST OF HELLAS**; and in the presence of all the gods of the army who preside over this oath. Thus said Hannibal the general and all the Carthaginian senators along with him and the Carthaginian soldiers: ...That King Philip and the Macedonians AND the REST OF THE HELLENES <->
who are their allies shall protect the Carthaginians,...
King Philip and the Macedonians AND the HELLENES <->
who are their allies shall be protected and guarded by the Carthaginians..."
(Polybios 7.9.1-7; Treaty of alliance between king Philip V of Macedonia and Hannibal)
* = Hanibal i jak batka po ime Xenophanes the Athenian, son of Kleomachos si sedat, pijat i prat cunki DOGOVORI ZA NE-NAPAGJANJE I MEGJUSEBNA ZASHTITA...
pa ne e glup Filip da go pushti sin mu, ne ednas no istorijata se slucile takvi raboti ko "pushtas svoj pratenik - ti ja nosat glavata negova vo edno vrekjule" pushti nekoj grk tamu, koj go eba

majtapot na strana, HANIBAL I GRKOT ´PRAT MUABET!!!
** = Ako Hanibal i Grkot Prat Muabet, pazi sea batka... hronoloshki...
- da si mi ziv i zdrav ti - grkot = tvojte bogoj = zevz, hera, apolo440 8)
PLUS...
"...ALL THE GODS who possess Macedonia..." <--- mora, poshto Caro cunki MAKEDONEC E!!!
pazi sea... ushte Hanibal i grko si prat muabet, neli... poshto gi spomnaja i Kartaginskite bogoj malku,t.e. SITE
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"...and in the presence of all the gods who possess Carthage..."
mora i "...AND THE REST OF HELLAS..." <--- se gleda deka pravi Razlika megju Makedonski i Elinski = Staro-Grcki Bogovi...
vo ponatamoshniot text kolku pati avtorot NAGLASUVA "...who are their allies..." se OCIPULITELNO 8)
tuka ste bugari i grci vci? batko Kuzman ima lek za vas :viol1:
In the curent researches are used Anti-Schizophrenic-philter-903.2.8.
and anti-spy Samuilova BB :wink:
A Traditional Not-Trade Mark of Macedonia
ajt sea na skolija