ПЕЛАЗГИ/ ИЛИРИ/ МАКЕДОНЦИ/ TRAKI/ FRIGI/ АЛБАНЦИ

[enhallon]

shqip!

 

[Picasso`]

Ke postiram moj veke postoecki post, na zaklucena tema koj sigurno ne beshe avtenticen za "istoricarite" tuka i sekako ne beshe zabelezan.

Ke zaboravev i ova.
Romanski zborovi so Trakaski substrat i prevod nivni na albanski.

abur -- avull
akata -- kap
alak -- lakлr
baci -- bari
baliga -- bajga
balta -- balta
barza -- bardhл
balaur -- Bolla (njл lloj pлrbindлshi)
balan -- njeri me flokл tл bardhл
brad -- bredh
brau -- brez
bukura -- e bukur
bukuros -- bukurosh
bunget -- bung
buza -- buza
kasiula -- kлsula
kapusha -- kлpusha
katun -- katund
sjoara -- sorra

(Nekoi istoricari smetaat deka imeto na glavniot grad na Romanija, t.e. Bukuresht ima albansko znacenje, ili znaci BUKUR ESHTE, vo prevod Ubavo e.)

Podolu nekolku referenci, shto gi "pravat" trakite i ilirite edna posebna grupa.

Цитат:
"One thing seems very likely to be true: the substrate of Romanian is practically the same language as the "mother" of Albanian!"
Цитат:
"Georgiev, puts Albanian in close typological relationship to a Thracian language"!
Цитат:
Cabej seems to have believed that Thracian and Illyrian were quite similar in structure and even in lexicon.

Цитат:
"There are evident traces of a Thracian tribe in the area of Shkoder"!
Цитат:
“Similarities between Romanian and Albanian regard mainly the Tosk dialect. This linguistic evidence made Arshi Pipa say that he saw a Thracian component in Toskeria, while Ghegeria, according to him, was mostly Illyrian”.
Цитат:
“Illyria (Albania), Thracia and Troya too have spoken Etruskians dialects prior Micenaen migration”!
Цитат:
There is no well-defined difference between the aboriginal Thracians and the native Illyrians.All of the Thracian tribes and the Illyrian tribes practiced TATTOOING, which distinguished them from the Celtic tribes that had from time to time dominated them.
Цитат:
Herodotus and other Greek historians portrayed the Illyrians as a semi-savage people; they viewed them as the most savage tribes of Thrace. Both peoples they described as practitioners of the art of tattooing. They painted their bodies and sacrificed human victims to their gods. The women of Illyria occupied as exalted position in tribal society and even exercised political authority. The queens are referred to as despots or royal personages. -- Vol. XIV, p. 326. Article "Illyria."
Цитат:
ēziē ..... dele / mezēnai Na ovoj trakaski natpis gledame zborovi I ZI DELE MES.

 

[enhallon]

eve gi i tapiite na starosta na albanskiot jazik!!

 

[enhallon]

ot strannci albanologi!!

 

[enhallon]

SILEN sakas seuste tapii???

 

[enhallon]

jas zo zadovolstvo ke go cekam Silen da mi njade nekoi slicni tapii od jazikot na anticnite makedonci so vasiot jazik i bilo nkeoj drug fakt so ke ve vrzi so anticnite makedonci ama fakti ne zborovi od www.google.com!! pa ako mi najdes sega ke mu pisam email na toj ebaniot Karamanlis da ja trgne vetoto:-D:smir:

 

[Serpico]

Enhalon, ајде утре на кафе, јас и ти. Одма добијаш доказ шо бараш
Нека е попладне, после 6 - а после ќе му пишеш меил на Караманлис

Ај добра ноќ.

 

[enhallon]

Enhalon, ајде утре на кафе, јас и ти. Одма добијаш доказ шо бараш
Нека е попладне, после 6 - а после ќе му пишеш меил на Караманлис

Ај добра ноќ.

dokazite se kazuvaat tuka pred mazi.a so zadovolstvo ke pijame kafe kazi go i mestoto .jas momentalno sum vo tetovo.

 

[PIRRO]

Enhalon, ајде утре на кафе, јас и ти. Одма добијаш доказ шо бараш
Нека е попладне, после 6 - а после ќе му пишеш меил на Караманлис

Ај добра ноќ.

ПОСТОИ ДОКАЗ ДЕКА АНТИЧКИТЕ МАКЕДОНЦИ ЗБОРУВАЛЕ СЛОВЕНСКИ ?... Е ТОА БИ БИЛИ ИНТЕРЕСНО ДА СЕ ВИДИ,ПРОЧИТА... ТОА БИ БИЛО СПРОТИВНО НА ОВА ....


The Macedonians were also a Pelasgian people (Justinus, lib. VII. 1). Their language though was not so Latin as was the dialect of the Dacians and the Sarmatians, because neither the Macedonians, nor the populations of Illyricum figure in the list of the Latin barbarian peoples which we find with Horace. Nevertheless, we have the following important data about the Latin character of the language of the Macedonians.

In 196bc, after the Romans defeated king Filip of Macedonia, there were celebrated with great solemnity the so-called Isthmic games, where an immense multitude of inhabitants of all the lands which had been subjected to king Filip of Macedonia had gathered. On this occasion, after the proconsul Titus Quinctius Flaminius and the Romans commissaries occupied the seats reserved for them at this festivity, the herald, stepping in the center of the arena, spoke in the Latin language these words: that the Roman Senate and the general Titus Quinctius Flaminius, following the defeat of king Filip, order that all the inhabitants of the provinces which had been under the rule of king Filip, be exempted from all the taxes, and live according to their own laws. Hearing the voice of the herald, an extraordinary joy got hold of the entire mob. They could not believe that they had understood well what had been said, and looked at one another with astonishment, as if all this were only the illusion of an empty dream….and being unable to believe their own ears, they asked their neighbors.
The herald was called again, because each of them wanted, not only to hear, but also to see the one who announced their freedom; then the herald pronounced again the same words. The mob, in its excess of joy, started to applaud with repeated shouts, which seemed without end, so that is was easy to understand that for this mob the dearest of all riches was freedom (Livy, Hist. rom. I. XXXIII. 92).

Also in Latin was made the publication of the new organization of Macedonia, and in 167bc the consul Emilius Paulus, after defeating king Perseus of Macedonia, convoked an assembly at Amphipolis. Here, in the middle of an immense multitude of Macedonians, and in the presence of the 10 representatives sent by Rome to regulate the affairs of the conquered country, the consul Emilius Paulus presented in Latin language the wish of the Senate and its decisions, while the praetorian Octavius, who was also present, repeated the same words, interpreting them in Greek language (Livy, Hist. rom. I. XLV. 29).
Both proclamations therefore, that from 196bc, as well as that from 167bc, had been made in the Latin popular language, not in order to impose onto the freed people the national language of the victor, but because their idioms were barbarian Latin.

A barbarian Latin language was also spoken in the provinces of the Illyricum even before Roman conquest. Under the name Illyria were understood in older times all the lands westwards of Thessaly and Macedonia, up to the sea and to Istria; and in the times of the empire, belonged to Illyricum the Noricum, Pannonia, Dalmatia, Mesia and the two Dacia from across the Danube (Sextus Rufus, Breviarium, c. VIII; Bocking, Not. Dign. II. 6).
The Illyrii, according to Suidas, were a people of Thracian nationality, and the Thracians, according to Strabo, spoke the same language as the Getae.
Pannonia was conquered only in 9ad; and 21 years after this conquest, Velleius Paterculus wrote the following: “In all the Pannonias, there exist not only Roman customs and mores, but also a sort of Roman language, and many also occupy themselves with literature” (II. 110. 5; Vopiscus, Aurel. C. 24).

The Roman language which was spoken by the inhabitants of Pannonia in the times of Paterculus, was therefore an ancient national language, not imposed by the conqueror’s civilization. It continued to be that until the times of the emperor Julianus (361-363), a language paene barbara, as the historian Aurelius Victorus tells us (De Caes. 37. 7; Schuchardt, Der Vokalism. d. Vulgarlat. III. 44).

 

[TpH_Bo_OkO]

ПОСТОИ ДОКАЗ ДЕКА АНТИЧКИТЕ МАКЕДОНЦИ ЗБОРУВАЛЕ СЛОВЕНСКИ ?

http://rosetta-stone.etf.ukim.edu.mk/

 

[goca]

Ова прераснува во глупост , колку пати ви се кажа дека во Албанија има артефакти со словенско писмо или пелазгиско како сакате , колку пати да ви се каже дека албанскиот јазик е новокомпониран и во себе содржи англо - саксонски зборови ...
Ако продолжите со лаги тоа незначи дека ќе ја потиснете вистината ... ајде малку историја , доста глупости ...

 

[AngPu]

Epa se Slavjanini posto vo 6-iot vek dojdoa Sllovenite i o opustosija Ballkan toa ne e Mal Genocid.

Sllovenite gi asiilira 90% od Aborginalskoto naselenie na Balkanot samo malku ostanaa od cistite palkanski avtenticni narodi koj sega se Albancite i Grcite.

Дека са масовните гробници.


Сега малку за зборовите од тие квази научници албанолози (ебига митница)

БИЈА - BILIA (БИЛЈА, БИЉАНА) квази научниците ги мрзи да бараат, полесно им е да пишуваат глупости.
IRANIAN MISA, INDIAN BIJA (field for seed), во исто време и ВИ го кажувам потеклото за ЧАЈ, кој го пиете многу.

Да ве превртам уште еднаш и тие квази научници. Келтите го имаат истиот збор.
in Irish Gaelic, the name "bile" translates to "sacred tree." Наша Билјана - БИЛКА (свето и лековито дрво, си правиш ЧАЈ и се лечиш)

 

[AngPu]

[SIZE=-1]Напишале ZI - LUTTO
Па дали сте бе нормални.
З`Л (ЗОЛ, ЗЛОБЕН) ЛУТ

"Io son essa che lutto, / madre" makes Amata's anger

Ајде малку школа сега за З`Л и ЛУТА

[/SIZE]LYSSA was the goddess or daimona (spirit) of rage, fury, raging madness, frenzy, and, in animals, of the madness of rabies. The Athenians spelt her name Lytta. ЛУТА

The Lutto River, Lutto River flows into Russia

Кај нас постојат многу теченија наречени ЗЛИ ДОЛ

ете колу се валидни тие научници

 

[Messerschmitt]

[SIZE=-1]Напишале ZI - LUTTO[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Па дали сте бе нормални. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]З`Л (ЗОЛ, ЗЛОБЕН) ЛУТ[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]"Io son essa che lutto, / madre" makes Amata's anger[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]Ајде малку школа сега за З`Л и ЛУТА[/SIZE]

LYSSA was the goddess or daimona (spirit) of rage, fury, raging madness, frenzy, and, in animals, of the madness of rabies. The Athenians spelt her name Lytta. ЛУТА

The Lutto River, Lutto River flows into Russia

Кај нас постојат многу теченија наречени ЗЛИ ДОЛ

ете колу се валидни тие научници

Ti od ZI ides na ZOL a ja ti kazuvam Buvalno sto toa na Albanski Znaci ZI = Crno istotaka znaci i Taga.

a ne ZI pa do ZOl ia epten rabota ZI na Skriptata sto e najdena znaci Crno na lbnski

PR:

GURI I ZI = Crniot Kamen

 

[fanatic]

Bravo Pirro!mnogu interesni fakti, ne e vazno dali ke veruva ili ne nekoj tuka, se velit deka najhrabriot e toj sto ja priznava vistinata,a tuka ne gledam nikoj hrabar.
mene ne mi preci da veruvam deka anticnite makedonci se predci na ovie denesni, no za da se veruva trebat fakti i argumenti. edna golema razlika tuka e i jazikot pa se znae denesniot makednosk.се тоа сто го казуваш е ок за тебе и што мислиш тагаш кај е проблемот? калакурница ви одговара вас зашто сами знаете кој сте и што сте и којсе вашите врски со азербејгјан и гего мирдити. Мене ме чуди едно .Зашто не им погледнете на фактите и реалноста во очи.Таа вистината боли ама таа е никој нее крив ,тоа сте што сте.Како што кажав дајте еден постар документ од 200 години/еден единствен документ кој што ке каже дека денешните албанци се наследници на илирите.Ако споредиш фолкорот на азербејџан и на денешните гего мирдити ке видиш не само штое сл.туку и доста идентични.