Швајцарците изгласаа "ЗА" за прием на Бугари и на Романци
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Amnaesiac
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Браво бе, сакав да ја постирам оваа вест уште утрово и тоа со 60% изгласале, Ама си реков ај ќе почекам некој од источните ни братучеди да го направи тоа.
Но причината беше дека со неуспешниот референдум уште 6 договори потпишани меѓу Берн и Брисел од кои Швајцарија имаше големи поволности ќе беа поништени.
спиеше ли ноќеска?
Но причината беше дека со неуспешниот референдум уште 6 договори потпишани меѓу Берн и Брисел од кои Швајцарија имаше големи поволности ќе беа поништени.
спиеше ли ноќеска?
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ЈОК! Има собирано картони за нова населба во Берн!
Б
Бат Елохим
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Ова е жива вистина.
Во Англија на пример, Романците се барани како работници, нормално за да не си ги прљаат рацете англичаните, ама Бугари работници никој не сака. Поготово така, да спакуваат парталите и да идат на своја рака.
Или ќе спијат по паркови. и ќе преживуваат со криминал. трето тешко.
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Moraa da glasaat ZA, bidejki ako glasaa protiv Romanija i Bugarija mozea da gi blokiraat dogovorite koi Svajcarija gi ima so EU, vo pogled na otvoren pazar i slobodna trgovija. Vo Svajcarija sekoe treto rabotno mesto zavisi od izvozot koj Svajcarija go ima vo EU zemjite.Ako im se zatvori Eu pazarot, tie se gotovi...
Amnaesiac
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тоа се 6-те договори кои ги наведов во погорната порака потпишани 1999 год., така да не се причина бугарите за успешниот референдум, но сепак можам да ја разберам нивната радост. веројатно и ние би реагирале така.
Баш така друже, колку и да плукаме и се*енме какви се романците и бугарите, и колку они се лоши и цигани, реалноста е дека они можат да идат кај сакаат, а ние уште долго ќе сме заглавени во гетово :nenene:Oстанува фактот дека Македонците ќе си спијат само во своите Македонски “топли“ домови,и во 2009та.
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Ke vidime do koga ke odat vo zemjite na EU... Eve go krikot na Britanija po ekonomskata kriza, protiv ne-britanskita rabotna sila..
We need to be freed from the EU
"British jobs for British workers" simply cannot happen while we're still in the prison of nations that is the European Union. For we've signed away, without any consultation with the British people or, whisper it if you dare, any vote or referendum on the subject, our right as a country to decide who comes to this country or who works in this country.
We can all pore over the provisions of the Posted Workers Directive if we choose, agree with the Lindsey workers or not as we wish, but the basic fact is that the government, Acas, unions and hundreds or thousands of angry workers cannot have any effect upon the situation. For it is the law, confirmed by the highest court that applies to us, the European Court of Justice (ECJ), that this is so. The Laval and Viking cases are simply confirmation of how the unions themselves were sadly hoodwinked by Jacques Delors. He promised them a "social Europe" and they thought that was what they wanted. What's come back to bite them is that the Europe on offer is not what they thought. The absolute free movement of labour is what is on offer and there's no way of changing that without leaving the EU itself.
The ECJ rulings are not mistakes: they are the aim, the purpose. To stop any country, any nation, from deciding who may live or work in that country or nation. We must all be Europeans now and any dissent, any action that might change or threaten that has been made illegal.
This point is a great deal more important than those few hundreds of jobs that have brought thousands out on wildcat strikes. You may have noticed that there are huge infrastructure spending plans in the works. Tens of billions of pounds, possibly hundreds of billions, for a Severn Barrage, windmills on every mountain top, the insulation of every house, the Olympics. At least half of the argument for these spending plans is that they will mitigate, even end, the recession, that millions of jobs will be created for the willing British worker to do. But given our EU membership we cannot in fact ensure this. We must tender such contracts out right across the union, we cannot even prefer our own companies or people, let alone insist that our tax money should be spent on our own. When the very point of a fiscal stimulus is to provide an alternative to rotting on the dole it beggars belief that we'll be spending British taxes on foreigners' jobs. As we will be, for we already know that one third of those working on the Olympic sites are indeed foreigners.
There are those who say that to raise these points is xenophobia, that there's some heinous sin of protectionism being committed in simply pointing out the truth. But even that apostle of free markets and opponent of protectionism for either goods or labour, Milton Friedman, pointed out that you cannot simply open the floodgates one bright and sunny day. Huge changes like this require time, a certain management, otherwise society itself will fracture under the stress. Which is why we in Ukip call for two things. Firstly, a cap on the total number of inward migrants. How many can we absorb in: not that people cannot come here to work, but how many can we as a society cope with coming? The second is that there be a system of work permits. Again, we don't want to either stop or dissuade those whose skills we desire, we just want to be able to make sure that it is those with the skills that we desire and need who come.
Neither of these things are possible while we remain in the European Union, so they are both simply two of the many reasons we argue that we must leave. Reform from within is not going to be possible. They didn't listen to the Dutch or the French on their referendums, they're not listening to the Irish now and they'll not listen to anything that we say while we stay in. Only by leaving can we control our own destiny once again.
There are of course those who say that there is nothing wrong here. Like Lord Mandelson: well, he would say that wouldn't he?
Instead, Mandelson declared that he received a ministerial salary and a transitional Ł78,000 a year EU allowance following his decision to quit the trade commissioner's job and return to the cabinet.
Not only is he getting that Ł78,000 a year, he's also due a conditional pension, the whole package being worth Ł1m. To get that cash he's got to continue to uphold his oath as a commissioner: that he'll continue to support the aims and the objectives of the European Union. Thus the "move along now, nothing to see here" nature of his remarks on the issue. They would rather we didn't see that we've lost control not just of our own country but of our own fate.
While this is satire the basic point holds. There'll be some fudge, some symbolic act and victory will be declared. But the underlying reality, that we've parcelled up our right to govern ourselves and posted it to Brussels will remain. We're simply not in charge of our own country: all we're asked to do is pay for it without being able to influence what happens.
British jobs for British workers will only be a possibility when Britain is ruled by Britons again. When we leave the European Union and become a free and independent nation, when we who live here are able to decide what are the laws here, something that is the very essence of the democratic ideal. //02.07.09 mInA (Nigel Farage)
We need to be freed from the EU
"British jobs for British workers" simply cannot happen while we're still in the prison of nations that is the European Union. For we've signed away, without any consultation with the British people or, whisper it if you dare, any vote or referendum on the subject, our right as a country to decide who comes to this country or who works in this country.
We can all pore over the provisions of the Posted Workers Directive if we choose, agree with the Lindsey workers or not as we wish, but the basic fact is that the government, Acas, unions and hundreds or thousands of angry workers cannot have any effect upon the situation. For it is the law, confirmed by the highest court that applies to us, the European Court of Justice (ECJ), that this is so. The Laval and Viking cases are simply confirmation of how the unions themselves were sadly hoodwinked by Jacques Delors. He promised them a "social Europe" and they thought that was what they wanted. What's come back to bite them is that the Europe on offer is not what they thought. The absolute free movement of labour is what is on offer and there's no way of changing that without leaving the EU itself.
The ECJ rulings are not mistakes: they are the aim, the purpose. To stop any country, any nation, from deciding who may live or work in that country or nation. We must all be Europeans now and any dissent, any action that might change or threaten that has been made illegal.
This point is a great deal more important than those few hundreds of jobs that have brought thousands out on wildcat strikes. You may have noticed that there are huge infrastructure spending plans in the works. Tens of billions of pounds, possibly hundreds of billions, for a Severn Barrage, windmills on every mountain top, the insulation of every house, the Olympics. At least half of the argument for these spending plans is that they will mitigate, even end, the recession, that millions of jobs will be created for the willing British worker to do. But given our EU membership we cannot in fact ensure this. We must tender such contracts out right across the union, we cannot even prefer our own companies or people, let alone insist that our tax money should be spent on our own. When the very point of a fiscal stimulus is to provide an alternative to rotting on the dole it beggars belief that we'll be spending British taxes on foreigners' jobs. As we will be, for we already know that one third of those working on the Olympic sites are indeed foreigners.
There are those who say that to raise these points is xenophobia, that there's some heinous sin of protectionism being committed in simply pointing out the truth. But even that apostle of free markets and opponent of protectionism for either goods or labour, Milton Friedman, pointed out that you cannot simply open the floodgates one bright and sunny day. Huge changes like this require time, a certain management, otherwise society itself will fracture under the stress. Which is why we in Ukip call for two things. Firstly, a cap on the total number of inward migrants. How many can we absorb in: not that people cannot come here to work, but how many can we as a society cope with coming? The second is that there be a system of work permits. Again, we don't want to either stop or dissuade those whose skills we desire, we just want to be able to make sure that it is those with the skills that we desire and need who come.
Neither of these things are possible while we remain in the European Union, so they are both simply two of the many reasons we argue that we must leave. Reform from within is not going to be possible. They didn't listen to the Dutch or the French on their referendums, they're not listening to the Irish now and they'll not listen to anything that we say while we stay in. Only by leaving can we control our own destiny once again.
There are of course those who say that there is nothing wrong here. Like Lord Mandelson: well, he would say that wouldn't he?
Instead, Mandelson declared that he received a ministerial salary and a transitional Ł78,000 a year EU allowance following his decision to quit the trade commissioner's job and return to the cabinet.
Not only is he getting that Ł78,000 a year, he's also due a conditional pension, the whole package being worth Ł1m. To get that cash he's got to continue to uphold his oath as a commissioner: that he'll continue to support the aims and the objectives of the European Union. Thus the "move along now, nothing to see here" nature of his remarks on the issue. They would rather we didn't see that we've lost control not just of our own country but of our own fate.
While this is satire the basic point holds. There'll be some fudge, some symbolic act and victory will be declared. But the underlying reality, that we've parcelled up our right to govern ourselves and posted it to Brussels will remain. We're simply not in charge of our own country: all we're asked to do is pay for it without being able to influence what happens.
British jobs for British workers will only be a possibility when Britain is ruled by Britons again. When we leave the European Union and become a free and independent nation, when we who live here are able to decide what are the laws here, something that is the very essence of the democratic ideal. //02.07.09 mInA (Nigel Farage)
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Ова е за друг подфорум. „Свет, случувања...“
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I referendumot ne se odnesuvase samo na Bugarija i Romanija, tuku za prodolzuvanje na dogovorot za sloboden pazar na trud so cela EU + Bugarija i Romanija
Swiss vote yes to free movement of labour with EU
GENEVA (AFP) – Swiss voters agreed Sunday to prolong free movement of labour with the European Union, extending the policy to workers from EU newcomers Bulgaria and Romania, referendum results showed.
Some 59.6 percent said yes to the government's motion extending the agreement, while 40.4 percent voted no, according to official results from country's 26 cantons released through the Swiss news agency ATS.
The Swiss government, along with most of the country's political, business and social establishment had been pressing for the extension of the accord with the EU, which came into force in 2002.
But the extent of their victory suprised obeservers, after the last opinion poll 10 days ago had indicated only a slender lead for the pro-European camp.
Swiss vote yes to free movement of labour with EU
GENEVA (AFP) – Swiss voters agreed Sunday to prolong free movement of labour with the European Union, extending the policy to workers from EU newcomers Bulgaria and Romania, referendum results showed.
Some 59.6 percent said yes to the government's motion extending the agreement, while 40.4 percent voted no, according to official results from country's 26 cantons released through the Swiss news agency ATS.
The Swiss government, along with most of the country's political, business and social establishment had been pressing for the extension of the accord with the EU, which came into force in 2002.
But the extent of their victory suprised obeservers, after the last opinion poll 10 days ago had indicated only a slender lead for the pro-European camp.
Amnaesiac
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како завидлив македонец би ти одговорил, поарно во домови (топли или не) отколку како што спијат ромите во скопје, под железничка, под мостот близнаци меѓу општина аеродром и општина гази баба, на двете страни од реката вардар источно од мтв (едната во општина гази баба а другата во општина аеродром, иако ги дели воздушна линија од околу 30 метри), ама ти си прилепчанец па не знам дали ги знаеш овие локации) но оваа локација сигурно ја знаеш во паркчето на плоштад Македонија, кое е многу блиску до седиштето на најпрофитабилната македонска (т.е. германска или унгарска) компанија Македонски Телеком АД (или познатиот T-home brand), а да ги спомнам тука и седиштето на Еуростандард банка, УНИ банка, Интернационална и Приватна Банка, Комерцијална банка, Стопанска Банка и корпорацијата Дал Фуфо (или како се викаше), ноќниот клуб на Трифуновиот син B2 (морав да ја сменам јазичната поддршка, за да го запазам оригиналното име), најтрендовскиот бар Trend, Insomnia на кеј, BarCelona, неправилно напишаниот La Cafe (и двата на ул. Македонија, иако треба Le а не La) и нашиот автентичен Pub London (веднаш до Trend), сопственост на Македонија Турист АД.Oстанува фактот дека Македонците ќе си спијат само во своите Македонски “топли“ домови,и во 2009та.
Ако ништо друго, екстремните контрасти на површина од 50 метри квадратни (а да не го поминувам Камениот мост, бидејќи таму ќе наидам на италијански имиња) зборуваат за мултикултуралноста на нашето општество и големата толеранција која владее во него.
а такво нешто ги чека бугарите
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