OSHO

[OSHO-Lover]

 

[Ipsissimus]

A kako go vikash ti toa koga nekoj zbori vo tvoe ime i ti nametnuva zborovi shto ne se tvoi,a tvdi deka ti si rekol.Na pr: jas nikade nemav kazano deka nemam iskustvo,nego ti rekov deka toa iskustvo e sekojdnevno,sekoj saat ,sekoja minuta.A ti uporno tvdish deka sum rekol deka nemam iskustvo. Drug pr: nikade ne rekov deka ucenjeto na G. e filozofija, a ti uporno tvdish deka jas sum go rekol toa.

Никој не ти наметнува зборови што не се твои. Ти самиот кажа дека освен читање негледаш друг начин за запознавање со таа филозофија. Еве го тој момент:

Ne gledam drug nacin za zapoznavanje na toj tip na filozofija osven na citanje knigi,ako imash drug predlog..kazi.

Kako go znam znacenjeto na citatite od G. -,najverojatno so prodlavocuvanje na negovoto ucenje!!!

Епа и јас тоа прашував, ама ти велиш дека сум провоцирал.
И Ошо и Гурџиев не се потпираат само на читање. Двајцата си имаат "пракси".

 

[Gurdjieff]

Никој не ти наметнува зборови што не се твои. Ти самиот кажа дека освен читање негледаш друг начин за запознавање со таа филозофија. Еве го тој момент:



Епа и јас тоа прашував, ама ти велиш дека сум провоцирал.
И Ошо и Гурџиев не се потпираат само на читање. Двајцата си имаат "пракси".

Pak vadish samo delovi od moite postovi,shto ne ja dolovuvat celinata......ok, ne e problem
Aj da ne gi zamarame drugite so nashata slobodna volja.....

 

[OSHO-Lover]

YOU HAVE SAID THAT THERE ARE NO GOALS IN LIFE, NO PURPOSE. AND YET WE ARE ALL
HERE WITH ENLIGHTENMENT AS OUR GOAL. PLEASE SPEAK ON THIS.
If you are here with enlightenment as your goal you cannot be here. Physically you may appear to
be here but you cannot be with me. The goal is in the future, I am here! And a mind which is goal
oriented is bound to be in the future – we will never meet.
I know you are here to attain something – that’s why you are missing it. I am here to persuade
you to drop the very idea of attaining anything whatsoever: enlightenment, moksha, nirvana, God,
included. If you drop this goal oriented mind – and there are none but goal-oriented minds, there is
no other mind – if you drop it, you are enlightened.
Enlightenment is not a search, it is a realization. It is not a goal! It is the very nature of life itself.
As life is, it is enlightened. It needs nothing to be added to it, to improve it. Life is perfect. It is not
moving from imperfection to perfection, it is moving from perfection to perfection.
You are here to attain something. That is functioning as a barrier. Drop that barrier. Just be here!
Forget about any purpose, life cannot have any purpose. Life is the purpose, how can it have any
other purpose? Otherwise you will be in an infinite regress: then that purpose will have another
purpose, then that other purpose will have another purpose.... Life has no purpose, and that’s why
it is so beautiful.Hindus have called it LEELA, a play. It is not even a game.
Now in the West the word GAME has
become very very important; hundreds of books have been published within two, three years with
GAME in the title: THE MASTER GAME, THE ULTIMATE GAME, GAMES PEOPLE PLAY, and so
on and so forth. But there is a difference between game and play. Hindus have called life PLAY
not a game, because even a game has something as a purpose: a result to be attained, victory to
be achieved, the opponent has to be conquered.... Then a play becomes a game; then it becomes
serious.
Grownups play games, children only play. Just the very activity is enough unto itself. It has an
intrinsic end, there is no goal added to it. Life is a LEELA, it is a play, and the moment you are ready
to play, you are enlightened.
Try to understand from some other dimension. You are already that which you are trying to be. The
more you try, the more you will miss. You leave all effort, you simply accept yourself, you just be that
– suddenly it is there! It has always been there but you were seeking so seriously, and that was the
only cause for missing it.
You are here to attain something: enlightenment, samadhi, satori – or something. To me all those
words are nonsense, because they give you again a new line of desiring. They again open a door
of desire.
In the world you desire money, power, prestige; then you get fed up with it, then you see the whole
thing is just rubbish – even if you get it you are defeated, if you don’t get it you are defeated. Then
you come to feel that this whole thing is nonsense. Now suddenly you start playing new games:
enlightenment, meditation, yoga, God, the other world, the other shore! Again the mind is at ease;
a new world of desire has opened; now you will be after these goals.
And money is not so elusive as meditation. This world at least is solid; that shore, that world, the
other world, is absolutely fantasy. Now you are in a deeper ditch than before. With the first you could
realize that it is useless, with the second now it will take millions of lives to realize that this too is
useless.
When a person comes to discover that all goals are useless – with no exception all goals are useless,
then there is nothing to do, one just has to BE. One relaxes, one relaxes so totally because there
is nothing to do that there is no tension. Suddenly your boundaries melt like snow melting in the
morning sun. With nothing to do you disappear, the ego disappears. With nothing to do, nothing to
be, nothing to achieve, who will you be? The whole identity evaporates. This is enlightenment.
Then you start a totally different way of life. You start being playful, you start being alive moment to
moment with nowhere to go – whatsoever the life gives, you accept it with deep gratitude. Grace
happens to you. This is what I call: to become a god. The moment you start playing, living in the
moment, you have become a god.
I am here to persuade you that you are already gods. You may be here to become gods – that’s
your trip, I’m not concerned with it. I know what I am here for: just to persuade you to look at your
own face once again; to search within and not to go without, searching for something which doesn’t
exist.Life is a purposeless play, a play of infinite forces – beautiful if you don’t have an achiever’s mind,
ugly if you have ambition to become something, to be something, to do something.
Relax. Drop the future completely. Only this moment exists, and this moment is eternity. And this
life only is all that is there, don’t think of the other shore.
Just the other day I was telling you the Chinese allegory of the man who returned from the middle
of the river. Why did he return from the MIDDLE of the river? Because there is no other shore, this
is the only shore. And why did he start laughing? Because he suddenly realized he himself is the
Buddha whom he has been seeking.
Zen Masters teach their disciples that: if while meditating some day you come across Buddha – kill
him immediately. Don’t spare a single moment – kill him immediately! Otherwise he will lead you
astray.
They are right. While you are meditating Krishna comes with his flute, it is so beautiful.... Again you
are dreaming, again you are caught in dream and desire. And Jesus comes, and you are caught in
the web of the mind; it is a spider’s web. And then Buddha comes, and you forget yourself.
So Zen Masters say: Kill the Buddha immediately. Clear the way. Don’t allow anybody else to be
there; that is, don’t allow any goal to be there; just be total, alone – in your absolute purity. This is
enlightenment.
I should repeat it, because I know you will forget and forget and forget: you are already that which you
are seeking. Let this be the basic mantra. If you can understand this mantra, you have understood
all.
Give it a try. Goals – too many lives you have already given to them. Now try to live moment to
moment, as if there is no future. In the beginning it will be only AS IF, but by and by you will become
aware that that AS IF is the only reality. In the beginning it may be just like acting. Soon you will
realize that this acting is the only reality.
You have come with a goal but I won’t allow you to remain with a goal. If you don’t escape me the
goal is bound to drop. Just hang around a little more and the goal is bound to drop. Either I can be
here with you or the goal can: you have to choose.
Osho
--- надополнето: 13 декември 2011 во 00:33 ---

Just the other day Anando was showing me one book published against me in Australia by a couple who have been sannyasins for three years and have been in the commune. But just looking at their ideas, it seems they have never seen me. They are saying that they were working, working hard, and with their work I was purchasing Rolls Royces.
You can see the absurdity: their work was not bringing any money. Their work was making their own houses to live in, the roads - which were needing money, not producing money. But in their mind - and for all those three years also - they must have been resentful.
Those Rolls Royces were not produced by the commune. They were presents from outside, from all over the world. And I was not their owner - I had given them to the commune. They were commune property, and I have not brought any of them with me; I have left them with the commune.
Everything that I had has been left with the commune. I never owned anything. But there must have been the idea that they are earning money, and I am wasting money. That is their resentment.
What money were you earning? In fact you needed money to make houses, to make roads, to make a dam - a dam needed two and a half million dollars to make. You were contributing your labor, but we were not creating money out of it so that I could purchase Rolls Royces, so that I could purchase anything. I have not purchased anything from the money produced by the commune because the commune never produced any money. The commune was absorbing money. In fact all my royalties, all my books, all their profits were going to the commune. The situation is just the opposite - that I had given everything to the commune. Now, four hundred books in different languages were bringing millions of dollars in royalties, and those royalties were going to the commune.
If I had wanted to purchase Rolls Royces, I could have purchased my own Rolls Royces, as many as I wanted, just out of my royalties.
(Osho - Beyond Psychology #24)
The Rolls Royces fitted very well in Osho's vision of the "New Man". According to him the New Man is to be a synthesis between the materialism of the West and the spiritualism of the East. This synthesis Osho also called "Zorba the Buddha". He talks about it in an interview with Mike Wolfe KBND Radio, Bend, Oregon: "I am destroying the whole idea of the separation, of a split between matter and mind, body and soul, materialism and spiritualism."
Beloved Master, what is so funny about your driving to discourse in a Rolls-Royce?

Osho:

There is a long story behind it! I was driving... I was coming in an Impala, and people like you started writing letters to me saying that, "This is a plumber's car!"
I told Laxmi, "Change it!" So she bought a Buick - and people started writing to me that "This is a pimp's car!"
So I told Laxmi, "Change it!" So she was bargaining for a Lincoln Continental. And people wrote to me, "This is good - this is a president's car!"
I said, "That is worse - worse than being driven in a plumber's or a pimp's car!" So I told Laxmi, "Now, for a poor man like me, only a Rolls Royce will do!"
Now, please don't make any objection to it... because coming from Lao Tzu to Buddha Hall, a helicopter won't do. Don't create troubles for me!
(The Dhammapada: The Way of the Buddha)

 

[OSHO-Lover]

LAO TZU SEEMS TO BE THE MOST TRUTHFUL MAN, BUT GEORGE GURDJIEFF USED TO
PAINT SPARROWS AND SELL THEM AS CANARIES. LAO TZU SAYS TO DO NOTHING AND
REALIZE, GURDJIEFF SAYS ONLY A SUPERHUMAN EFFORT WILL DO. IS GURDJIEFF’S
REALIZATION AS GREAT AS LAO TZU’S? HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE?
Yes, there are no degrees of enlightenment; either it is or it is not. Lao Tzu and Gurdjieff are
both enlightened, and there are no degrees, so nobody is more enlightened and nobody is less
enlightened. But their working is different, their time is different, the age they live in is different, the
people they have to tackle and the disciples they get are different.
Lao Tzu lived in a very primitive world. People were very simple, humble, not tense, not in a hurry –
in fact they had no time sense, they were more natural. Gurdjieff lived in a totally opposite time. Lao
Tzu lived in the East and Gurdjieff lived in the West – and in the twentieth century – the maddest
century ever; almost everybody is neurotic.
Gurdjieff had to devise different things for this different type of person. This type of man had not
existed in Lao Tzu’s time. He may sometimes have come across such a man as an exception but
now that is the rule; and the man who was the rule at Lao Tzu’s time is now the exception. So
everything has changed.
LAO TZU SEEMS TO BE THE MOST TRUTHFUL MAN – he is. And Gurdjieff does not seem to you
to be so truthful – he is also as much truthful as Lao Tzu, but he has compassion for you, and if he
needs to lie to help you, he lies. And you are such a liar that Lao Tzu won’t be of much help to you.
Even a Gurdjieff finds it difficult to help you. He is just the right type of person for the West.
Lao Tzu, in the first place, will not appeal to you because he is so simple and so innocent. In fact
if he had been born in the twentieth century he would have been called: The idiot. Even in those
old days there were many people who thought that he was an idiot. He himself says, Everybody
else seems to be very very clever, only I am stupid – and that too twenty-five centuries before. Now
everybody would think him an idiot. Not only that, if he had been born in the West they may even
have psychoanalyzed and treated him to bring him back to normal.
They have done that same thing to many other people. In Western mental asylums there are many
people who are not mad, who are simply very innocent people. But they cannot be liars, and they
cannot be in tune with this lying century; that’s their difficulty. Gurdjieff was exactly the right person.
He lied very easily. But those lies were meant to help you. You need lies.
Gurdjieff says: superhuman effort is needed and Lao Tzu says: no effort. Both are superhuman.
When you make superhuman effort you come to a point where Lao Tzu becomes immediately
meaningful to you. Only after passing through Gurdjieff will you be able to drop all effort.
Now immediate approach to Lao Tzu is not possible. In fact, you are so cunning and clever that
if you listen to Lao Tzu and read Lao Tzu it is not possible that you will drop all effort; it is more
possible that you will cling to laziness. I Bee people here, when I start talking about Lao Tzu they
start asking questions, the ’right’ questions – Then what about in the ashram where we have to
work? Shouldn’t we stop working? They want to stop working.
Not that they have understood, because if they had understood they would not ask that. Lao Tzu is
not saying stop working, he is saying stop making effort. DO without making effort, do naturally. He
is not helping you to become lazy, saying: Don’t do anything and just lie down – and that too is good
if you don’t expect others to come and feed you, that too is perfectly good; but then you are looking
all around – are people coming or not to respect you as a great PARAMAHANSA, as one who has
realized? You will become lazy.
Gurdjieff is perfectly right: he says make superhuman effort; he forces people to make effort. He
brings – he drives them to such a point that beyond it there is nowhere to go. Then the effort drops
by itself – YOU CANNOT DROP it, you have been clinging to it so....
I was reading once in somebody’s memoirs: Gurdjieff was making an ashram near Paris, in
Fontainebleau. The structure was being built, and he told one man to work continuously – the
carpenter, a disciple: Don’t go to sleep. You go on working.
Eight hours, ten hours, twelve hours, twenty-four hours, and still he was working – and after thirtysix
hours Gurdjieff suddenly rushed to the place where he was. He was sitting on top of the roof
completely asleep, with his tools in his hand. If a little noise had been made he would have fallen
from there – and it was dangerous, so Gurdjieff told everybody to keep quiet.
Just like a cat he moved to the roof, got hold of the man and shook him. The man opened his eyes
– he could not believe where he was, what had happened. Thirty six hours of continuous work....
That day Gurdjieff told him: Now you need not work. IT DROPPED ITSELF.
If the man had dropped it he would have come down to sleep, if the man himself had dropped the
effort then he would have come down because it was dangerous – sitting on the roof, you can fall.
But it was not a question of his conscious decision; he did whatsoever he could do consciously, then
a moment came and he simply slipped into sleep. He did nothing on his part. Everything stopped.
Even the tools were in his hand. On his part he was still ready to work. He may even have been
working in his dream. But that day Gurdjieff released him; he said: Now you start meditating.
Sometimes he used to force people to do such purposeless things that it would drive you crazy. He
would tell them to dig a ditch one day and another day to refill it, and a third day to dig it again and a
fourth day to refill it. And it would continue for months. People who were too rationalistic would say:
This is absurd. They would leave. Only people who were really surrendered would continue without
raising questions.
And if you can follow a Master to such an extent, that you don’t ask, you don’t raise a question, you
simply think that there must be something in it....
When he says: Dig the ditch the whole day – that was ten hours work – and then fill it again, and
then dig it again, and fill it again, what is he doing? He is trying to pull you out of your reasoning.
Superhuman effort. For three months somebody would be doing the same thing every day – you
can understand that after three months that man would be totally different; now he was ready for
meditation.
Gurdjieff would not give you meditations just in the beginning. First he would test you from every
point, from every corner of your being he will see whether you can surrender; surrender to some
absurdity also? He helped many people. He was the right person for this age, particularly in the
West.
Don’t try to see any contradiction between the two – there is none. All awakened people have been
showing the same thing, saying the same thing; their words differ, they may appear contradictory to
you – they cannot be contradictory. If they appear contradictory to you then something is wrong with
your reasoning. Go deeper. One day you will come to the stratum where you will see that they are
saying the same thing.
Gurdjieff says DO as much as you can, and Lao Tzu says don’t DO, let things happen – and both
are saying the same thing; because only after doing too much will you able to understand Lao Tzu.
Lao Tzu would have understood Gurdjieff perfectly. If they both had worked in collaboration, that
would have been perfect.
That’s what I am trying to do: Gurdjieff, Lao Tzu, both. That’s why you will see many contradictions
in me. In Lao Tzu there is no contradiction – in himself. In Gurdjieff there is no contradiction
– in himself. If you bring them together, then you see the contradiction. But in me you will see
contradiction every moment. There is no need to bring any other enlightened man to find my
contradictions. I am contradictory. Because I see that life is polar.
You have to be forced to the utmost of doing – only then surrender happens, let-go becomes
possible.
Osho
--- надополнето: 13 декември 2011 во 14:20 ---

 

[Gurdjieff]

Поарно е да си ќутиш, кога немаш ништо паметно за кажување.

Гурджиев има дела многу, ама не мора никој да им наметнува на другите свое мислење. Остај ги луѓето да си читаат ако сакаат, нормално, и да си створат самите едно мислење, а не да ги убедуваш ти во нешто за кое мислиш дека е исправно, а притоа да ги "навредуваш" фино.

drugarce,ajde da vidime koi dela od G. si gi procital,poshto velish deka ima mnogu dela, pa da videme shto pametno ke kazesh za negovite dela. Da vidime kakov ti e magnetniot centar......

 

[Tetro]

drugarce,ajde da vidime koi dela od G. si gi procital,poshto velish deka ima mnogu dela, pa da videme shto pametno ke kazesh za negovite dela. Da vidime kakov ti e magnetniot centar......

На тема за Ошо, нема потреба да се дискутира за Гурджиев.

 

[Gurdjieff]

На тема за Ошо, нема потреба да се дискутира за Гурджиев.

Imash tema za G.... otvorena od mene...
VNATRESNA EVOLUZIJA NA COVEKOT-psihologija
Odamna trazam nekoj shto ima citano od nego za da razmeneme nekoja idea na taa tema.....ili go nemash citano???
Sigurno nemash citano cim mi velish na mene da kjutam!!!!!!
--- надополнето: 15 декември 2011 во 11:03 ---
[quote="OSHO-Lover, post: 4619650, member: 534
А за Ошо според мене е поцелосен од Gurdjieff, бидејки во неговото учење е апсорбирано и самиот Gurdjieff и многу други автентични методи за постанување на целосно битие неподелено, едно со самата животна енергија.
--- надополнето: 10 декември 2011 во 21:58 ---

[/quote]
Osho-lover mislam deka si vo golema greshka.Ne sum sretnal vo niedna kniga od Osho kade celosno go apsorvira ucenjeto na G. , naprotiv sekogash samo nafrla nekoi metodi od nego,kako na primer praktika na "stop" koja Osho ja nema nikogash sproveduvano vo praksa,dodeka kaj G. e edna od osnovnite.
Sekogash zboruva so respekt prema G., i pokraj toa shto znaesh deka OSHO znae dobro da gi kritikuva site tipovi na religii i na mesii koi se imaat pojaveno pred nego.
Osnovna praksa kaj Osho e meditacijata,dodeka G.nema blagje veze so nea.

 

[Gurdjieff]

Koj saka da gi upotrebuva tehnikite na meditazija, treba da gi otfrle starite idei deka meditaziata se sostoe od toa samo da sednes pod edno drvo u pozicija na joga. ​

Toa e samo eden tip na meditacija i moze da bide soodveten samo za malku licnosti. ​

Za eden mlad decko toa ne e meditacija , to e represia. Odredeni tipovi na meditacija ne se vise prilagodlivi na naseto vreme. ​

Trcanje, igranje, plivanje bilo koja rabota moze da bide meditazija; sekoj pat koa tvojto telo,tvojot um i tvojta dusha rabotat zaedno vo armonija, toa e meditazija.​

Edna fiksna shema na meditazija, ke bide adaptirana samo za malku licnosti.​

Licnosta ne treba da se prilagode na shemata, nego shemata treba da se prilagode na licnosta. ​

Shemite ne se bitni,mozat da se smenat i da se prilagodat. ​

Glavnio prinzip e deka bilo koj tip na meditazija treba da go zadovole slednoto baranje:​

treba da naprae da bidat edno isto teloto, umot i dushata. ​

Ako zivees taka togaj si sekogas vo meditazija.​

 

[Gurdjieff]

Mojot pat---patot na bel oblak.........OSHO

 

[Bodhidharma]

Compassion is something really worthwhile. It is not just a religious or spiritual subject, not a matter of ideology. It is not a luxury, it is a necessity.

 

[Bodhidharma]

The great German philosopher, Arthur Schopenhauer, was on his death-bed in
much pain and suffering. One evening, just before he died, he cried loudly,'Ah,
my God!'
The doctor who Was attending to him was surprised because there was no place
for God in Schopenhauer's philosophy. So he said, 'Sir, is there any place for God
in your philosophy?'
Schopenhauer opened his eyes and said,'In suffering, philosophy without God is
insufficient.'
The word 'insufficient' is very significant. Let us contemplate on it a little more.
Even on his death-bed, Schopenhauer remains a philosopher. A philosopher goes
on thinking about God, at the most, as a hypothesis: sufficient or insufficient? But
God remains, more or less, a hypothetical thing. God is not reality. Maybe the
concept is needed because it is difficult to explain many things without it, but the
hypothesis is a hypothesis and can be discarded at any moment. Any moment
that we can explain life without Him, We will be ready to explain life without
Him.
God is not life. Rather, He is a hypothesis to explain the mystery of life. A
hypothesis is a need of ignorance. When man becomes more and more
knowledgeable, the darkness of ignorance is pushed away more and more. God
will be thrown, God will be dethroned because then He will not be needed.
Schopenhauer says,'In suffering, a philosophy without God is insufficient.' In
suffering man feels his helplessness: fear, death, pain, and there is no explanation
for it. The suffering is so much, and unexplained. Then one cries out of fear,
anguish, anxiety, 'Ah God, my God!' But this God is bogus. It may be a need of
human frailty, human limitation; it may be a need of human weakness, human
helplessness, but it is not reality. It is not that you have come to realize the truth
of it. At the most, it is NEEDED. You feel too much alone, in the dark, without the concept of God. At the most, it is a make-believe. It helps, it consoles, it gives
a certain comfort when comfort is needed. It is what Marx calls 'the opium'. In
suffering, opium is needed -- something through which you can forget the
suffering -- but this is not the true God. The God of the philosophers is not a true
God.
Then there is another God -- the true God. The true God is not a hypothesis, it is
a realization. And the true God reveals more when you are celebrating than
when you are in suffering.
Just try to understand this: whenever you are happy you don't need God. Who
needs God when one is happy and enjoying life, full of energy and vigor? When
life is a fulfillment who needs God? Then the philosophy is sufficient without
God. In happiness, nobody remembers God. If you remember God when you are
happy, there is more possibility to know Him than when you remember Him in suffering, because in suffering everybody remembers.............


Come Follow To You, Vol 4

 

[Bodhidharma]

ONCE A TYRO ASKED A ZEN MASTER, "MASTER, WHAT IS THE FIRST PRINCIPLE?"
WITHOUT HESITATION THE MASTER REPLIED,"IF I WERE TO TELL YOU, IT WOULD BECOME THE
SECOND PRINCIPLE "

YES. THE FIRST PRINCIPLE CANNOT BE SAID. The most important thing cannot be said, and that
which can be said will not be the first principle. The moment truth is uttered it becomes a lie; the very
utterance is a falsification. So the Vedas, the Bible, and the Koran, they contain the second principle, not the
first principle. They contain lies, not the truth, because the truth cannot be contained by any word
whatsoever. The truth can only be experienced -- the truth can be lived -- but there is no way to say it.
The word is a far, faraway echo of the real experience; and it is so far away from the real that it is even
worse than the unreal because it can give you a false confidence. It can give you a false promise. You can
believe it, and that is the problem. If you start believing in some dogma, you will go on missing the truth.
Truth has to be known by experience. No belief can help you on the way; all beliefs are barriers. All
religions are against religion -- it has to be so by the very nature of things. All churches are against God.
Churches exist because they fulfill a certain need. The need is: man does not want to make any efforts; he
wants easy shortcuts. Belief is an easy shortcut.
The way to truth is hard; it is an uphill task. One has to go through total death -- one has to destroy
oneself utterly-only then is the new born. The resurrection is only after the crucifixion.
To avoid the crucifixion we have created beliefs. Beliefs are very cheap. You can believe and you
remain the same. You can go on believing, and it doesn't require any basic change in your life pattern. It
does not require any change in your consciousness, and unless your consciousness changes, the belief is just
a toy. You can play with it, you can deceive yourself with it, but it is not going to nourish you.
Visualize that a child is playing in the garden of his house, playing with imaginary lions, and then
suddenly he has to face a real lion who has escaped from the zoo. Now he does not know what to do. He is
simply scared out of his wits. He is paralyzed; he cannot even run. He was perfectly at ease with the
imaginary, but with the real he does not know what to do.

That is the situation of all those people who go on playing with beliefs, concepts, philosophies,
theologies. They ask questions just to ask questions. The answer is the last thing they are interested in. They
don't want the answer. They go on playing with questions, and each answer helps them to create more
questions. Each answer is nothing but a jumping board for more questions.

The truth is not a question. It is a quest! It is not intellectual; it is existential. The inquiry is a gamble, a
gamble with your life. It needs tremendous courage. Belief needs no courage. Belief is the way of the
coward.................
THE FIRST PRINCIPLE

 

[Хептаграм XI]

Тешки мудрости...
Ми се допаѓа...


Потсетуваат на поезијата од „Книгата на Лаги“ издадена 1912-1913 за прв пат од Братот П.
THE ELEPHANT AND THE TORTOISE

The Absolute and the Conditioned together make
The One Absolute.
The Second, who is the Fourth, the Demiurge, whom
all nations of Men call The First, is a lie grafted
upon a lie, a lie multiplied by a lie.
Fourfold is He, the Elephant upon whom the
Universe is poised: but the carapace of the
Tortoise supports and covers all.
This Tortoise is sixfold, the Holy Hexagram.(15)
These six and four are ten, 10, the One manifested
that returns into the Naught unmanifest.
The All-Mighty, the All-Ruler, the All-Knower, the
All-Father, adored by all men and by me
abhorred, be thou accursed, be thou abolished, be
thou annihilated, Amen!

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[Gurdjieff]

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