OSHO

[*phoenix*]

1.Ти колку имаш донирано на сиромашни , немора у Африка , овде кај нас?
2.Тие лимузини ги имаат возено у период додека е Ошо во САД и некоја будала милионер си има бизнис направено со таа комуна таму у Орегон мислам дека беше.
3.На крајот на краиштата мене ич не ме интересира каков живот водел и колку пари имал(може ја и бетер би бил од него) , тоа што мене ме интересира е тоа што има кажано и што има напишано а тоа е богами многу.
И не што е многу- квантитативно него е стварно ако ништо повеке најблиску до вистината до сега што сум трагал.
И у овој случај Ролс Ројсови се само напад у немоќ кога не се може ништо друго да се каже затоа што се паѓа у вода.
Еве ти што да правиш , читни нешто па после ке правиме муабет , може?
Првата невистина што ке ја најдеш кажи ја.
Не викам дека е за се у право ама има да се намачиш за да најдеш некоја невистина.

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И што кажа бе другар?
Абе батали ги тие коли , дај кажи каде греши у неговите тврдења

1.Јас не заработувам од лажење на народот така да не ме споредувај мене со него.
2.Аха значи некој милионер си заработувал од (л)ОШО и му купувал лимузини?
3.Која вистина бе другар?И јас можам да трескам некој глупости за духовниот живот и да паѓам во трансови пред телевизија и да заработам пари.Тоа го може секој кој има завршено барем 5-то одделение.

 

[cvetanovskiigor]

1.Јас не заработувам од лажење на народот така да не ме споредувај мене со него.
2.Аха значи некој милионер си заработувал од (л)ОШО и му купувал лимузини?
3.Која вистина бе другар?И јас можам да трескам некој глупости за духовниот живот и да паѓам во трансови пред телевизија и да заработам пари.Тоа го може секој кој има завршено барем 5-то одделение.

Ок тогаш , јасно ми е .
Нема потреба од муабет.

--- надополнето ---

Пази го ова
‎"Except man, nobody lies. A rosebush cannot lie. It has to produce roses; it cannot produce marigolds — it cannot deceive. It is not possible for it to be otherwise than it is. Except man the whole existence lives in truth. Truth is the religion of the whole existence — except man.And the moment a man also decides to become part of existence, truth becomes his religion." OSHO
Просто нема збор
‎

 

[*phoenix*]

ДИПЛОМАТ: Оној кој ќе ти каже да одиш у пизду материну и тоа ќе ти го каже на таков начин што едвај ќе чекаш да почне патувањето.
Oшо е нешто слично.
​

 

[cvetanovskiigor]

ДИПЛОМАТ: Оној кој ќе ти каже да одиш у пизду материну и тоа ќе ти го каже на таков начин што едвај ќе чекаш да почне патувањето.
Oшо е нешто слично.
​

Добра мисла.
Ама не би рекол дека Ошо е таков тип на дипломат

 

[RocknRolaa]

Денес она што некогаш било најтешко е најлесно.Ако некогаш било тешко луѓево да ги убедиш во нешто духовно,сега се создаваат фанатици на секој чекор.Секој се дрзнува врз основа на себе да подигне некоја си нова филозофија,демек да понуди нешто ново,и кутрите мали хрчки доброволно се фрлаат во вода.
По што е различен овој човек од другиве што ги зборат ама баш истиве работи,некогаш не ни знаат што зборат.Па навлези во толкување и ќе видиш дека блада или поим нема што збори.Ама битно знае колку добра марка е Ролс Ројс.
Ако веќе сака човек да продуховен тоа може и сам индивидуално да го направи,не мора да им се приклучува на вакви луѓе кои наводно се некакви водачи.Само се прашувам што памет во глава треба да имаш да му веруваш на ваков човек.(без навреда)

 

[cvetanovskiigor]

Денес она што некогаш било најтешко е најлесно.Ако некогаш било тешко луѓево да ги убедиш во нешто духовно,сега се создаваат фанатици на секој чекор.Секој се дрзнува врз основа на себе да подигне некоја си нова филозофија,демек да понуди нешто ново,и кутрите мали хрчки доброволно се фрлаат во вода.
По што е различен овој човек од другиве што ги зборат ама баш истиве работи,некогаш не ни знаат што зборат.Па навлези во толкување и ќе видиш дека блада или поим нема што збори.Ама битно знае колку добра марка е Ролс Ројс.
Ако веќе сака човек да продуховен тоа може и сам индивидуално да го направи,не мора да им се приклучува на вакви луѓе кои наводно се некакви водачи.Само се прашувам што памет во глава треба да имаш да му веруваш на ваков човек.(без навреда)

Хахахах а ја па се прашувам што памет во глава треба да имаш за да му веруеш на било кој.
Ја на никого не му верувам тоа ми е прв и основен принцип , само наогам истомисленици(ти текнуе ?)

--- надополнето ---

еден исечок за вербите од Ошо
Khabira. It is a sufi name, a name of God. Literally it means: one who sees all, the cognizant one,
the seer of all. And that is hidden in everybody – the witness. What we see may be true, may not be
true, but the seer is always true. The seen may be, may not be. In the night you see a dream, in the
morning you find it was not true, but the one who saw the dream is still true. In the morning, in the
night, all the time he is true. You see a rope and you think, in the darkness of the evening, that it is
a snake. But when you come close you know that it is false, it is not so. But the seer was not false.
Even in seeing something hallucinatory, the seer remains true; the seer is never false.

 

[cvetanovskiigor]

Being is one, the world is many...and between the two is the divided mind, the dual mind.
It is just like a big tree, an ancient oak: the trunk is one, then the tree divides into two
main branches, the main bifurcation, from which a thousand and one bifurcations of
branches grow. The being is just like the trunk of the tree -- one, non-dual -- and the mind
is the first bifurcation where the tree divides into two, becomes dual, becomes dialectical:
thesis and antithesis, man and woman, yin and yang, day and night, God and Devil, yoga
and Zen. All the dualities of the world are basically in the duality of the mind -- and
below the duality is oneness of being. If you slip below, underneath the duality you will
find one -- call it God, call it nirvana, or whatsoever you like.
If you go higher through the duality, you come to the many million-fold world.
This is one of the most basic insights to be understood -- that mind is not one.
Hence, whatsoever you see through the mind becomes two. It is just like a white ray
entering a prism; it is immediately divided into seven colors and the rainbow is created.
Before it entered the prism it was one, through the prism it is divided. and the white color
disappears into the seven colors of the rainbow.
The world is a rainbow, the mind is a prism, and the being is the white ray.
Modern research has come to a very significant fact, one of the most significant achieved
in this century, and that is that you don't have one mind, you have two minds. Your brain
is divided into two hemispheres: the right hemisphere and the left hemisphere. The right
hemisphere is joined with the left hand, and the left hemisphere is joined with the right
hand -- crosswise. The right hemisphere is intuitive, illogical, irrational, poetic, platonic,
imaginative, romantic, mythical, religious; and the left hemisphere is logical, rational,
mathematical, Aristotelian, scientific, calculative. These two hemispheres are constantly
in conflict -- the basic politics of the world is within you, the greatest politics of the world
is within you. You may not be aware of it, but once you become aware, the real thing to
be done is somewhere between these two minds.
The left hand is concerned with the right hemisphere -- intuition, imagination, myth,
poetry, religion -- and the left hand is very much condemned. The society is of those who
are right-handed -- right-handed means left hemisphere. Ten per cent of children are born
left-handed but they are forced to be right-handed. Children who are born left-handed are
basically irrational, intuitive, non-mathematical, non-Euclidean... they are dangerous for
society so it forces them in every way to become right-handed. It is not just a question of
hands, it is a question of inner politics: the left-handed child functions through the right
hemisphere -- that society cannot allow, it is dangerous, so he has to be stopped before
things go too far.

 

[cvetanovskiigor]

Osho on Gautam Buddha Enlightenment

Osho : I would like to tell you... Buddha tried for six years continuously to know what the divine is, and it cannot be said that he left anything undone. He did everything that is humanly possible, even some things which seem humanly impossible. He did everything. Whatever was known up to his day he practiced. Whatever methods were taught to him, he became a master of them.

He went to all the gurus that existed in his time, to everyone. And whatever they could teach, he learned, he practiced. And then he said, "Anything more, Sir?" And the guru said, "Now you can go, because all that I could give you I have given, and I cannot say, as I say in other cases, that you have not practiced. You have practiced. This is all that I can give." Buddha said, "I have not known the divine yet."

With each guru this happened. Then he left all the gurus. Then he invented his own methods. Continuously, for six years, he was in a struggle of life and death. He did everything that could be done. Then, at last, he was so tired of doing, so deadly tired, that one day when he was taking his evening bath in the Niranjana River near Bodhgaya, he felt so weak and so tired that he could not come out of the river. He just clung to a root of a tree and a thought came to his mind, "I have become so weak, I cannot even cross this small river. How will I be alive to cross the whole ocean of the world? I have done everything, and I have not found the divine. I have only tired my body."

He felt that he was on the verge of death. At that very moment he felt that he had done everything, and now there was nothing to do. He relaxed, and new energy came upon him because of his relaxation. All that was suppressed through those six years flowered. He came out of the river, he felt just like a feather, a bird's feather -- weightless. He relaxed under a Bodhi tree.

It was a bright fullmoon night. Someone came -- a girl, a shudra girl named Sujata. The name shows that the girl must have been a shudra because to have the name Sujata means she has not come from a higher caste. Sujata means wellborn. She had promised the Bodhi tree to pay it some homage daily, so she has come with some sweets.

Buddha is there -- tired, pale, bloodless, but relaxed, absolutely unburdened -- and it is a fullmoon night with nobody around. The girl, Sujata, felt that the deity of the tree had come to receive her homage. Had it been another day, Buddha could have refused. He would not rest in the night, he would not eat any food. But today he was totally relaxed. He took the food, and he slept. This was the first night after six years that he really slept.

He was relaxed with nothing to do. Then there was no worry. There was no tomorrow even, because tomorrow exists only because one has to do something. If one has not to do anything, then there is no tomorrow. Then the moment is enough.

Buddha slept, and in the morning, at five o'clock, when the last star was withering away, he was out of the sleep. He saw the last star disappearing, with no mind, because when you have nothing to do there is no mind. The mind is just a faculty for doing something, a technical faculty. No mind, nothing to do, no effort on his part, indifferent to whether he was alive or dead, he just opened his eyes, and he began to dance. He had come to that knowing to which he could not come through so many efforts.

Whenever someone would ask him how he achieved, he would say, "The more I tried to achieve, the more I was at a loss. I could not achieve. So how can I say I have achieved? The more I tried, the more I was involved. I could not achieve. The mind was trying to transcend itself, which was impossible. It is just like trying to be a father to yourself, just trying to give birth to yourself."

So Buddha would say, "I cannot say I achieved. I can only say I tried so much that I was annihilated. I tried so much that any effort became absurd. And the moment came when I was not trying, when the mind was not, when I was not thinking. Then there was no future because there was no past. Both were always together. Past is behind, future is in front; they are always conjoined. If one drops, the other drops simultaneously. Then there was no future, no past, no mind. I was mindless, I was I-less. Then something happened, and I cannot say that this something happened in that moment. I can only say that this was always happening, only I was not aware. It was always happening, only I was closed. So I cannot say I have achieved something."

Buddha said, "I can only say I have lost something -- the ego, the mind -- I have not achieved anything at all. Now I know that all that I have was always there. It was in every layer, it was in every stone, in every flower, but now I recognize it was always so. Only I was blind. So I have lost my blindness; I have not achieved anything, I have lost something."

If you begin with the divine, then you begin to achieve. If you begin with yourself, then you begin to lose. Things will begin to disappear, and ultimately you will disappear. And when you are not, the divine is -- with all its grace, with all its love, with all its compassion, but only when you are not. Your nonexistence is the categorical condition. For no one can it be relaxed. It is categorical, it is the absolute. You are the barrier. Fall down, and then you know. And only when you know, you know. You cannot understand it, I cannot explain it to you. I cannot make you understand it. So whatever I am saying, I am not saying anything metaphysical. I am only trying to show you that you must begin with yourself.

If you begin with yourself, you will end with the divine, because that is your other part, the other pole. But begin from this bank. Do not begin from the other, where you are not. You cannot begin from there. Begin from where you are, and the more you will go deep, the less you will be.
The more you will know yourself, the less a self you will be. And once you have come to total understanding about yourself, you will be annihilated, you will go into nonexistence, you will be totally negative -- not. And in that not, in that total negation, you will know the grace which is always falling, which is always raining down from eternity. You will know the love which is always around you. It has always been, but you have not paid any attention to it. Be annihilated, and you will be aware of it.

Source: “I Am the Gate” By Osho

 

[cvetanovskiigor]

Еден човек дошол кај Бајазид...
Бајазид од Бистам е еден од најголемите суфи-мајсто-
ри...
Човекот дошол кај него и му рекол дека постел и се
молел триесет години, а се уште воопшто не се прибли-
жил до разбирањето на Бога.
Човекот имал погрешен став уште од почетокот. Си-
гурно бил мошне пресметлив и итар човек, инаку како мо-
жете да ги броите миговите на љубов и на молитва? Како
можете да кажете: „Се молев триесет години?". Таа калку-
лација покажува ум на деловен човек. Триесет години - тој
пресметува. Сигурно бил овоземен човек: алчен, пресмет-
лив. Отишол во друг свет, но неговиот став останал непро-
менет: „Постев толку и толку денови, кажав толку и толку
молитви - а ништо не се случи!".
Всушност, ако знаете што е молитва, резултатот не е
важен. Молитвата само по себе е резултат. Вредноста е
внатрешна, се молите и тоа е доволно, зашто молитвата е
радост, молитвата е екстаза. Доволна е сама по себе и ни-
што повеќе не е потребно. Но, ако не се молите вистински,
тогаш вие чекате некаков резултат. Тогаш молитвата ста-
нува средство за постигнување на нешто - разбирање на
Господа, реализација на Господа или нешто друго. Но, мо-
литвата не може никогаш да стане средство за постигнува-
ње на „нешто". Самата молитва е тоа „нешто". Се што е
убаво - љубовта, молитвата, медитацијата - сето тоа си е
цел самото за себе, а не средство за постигнување на не-
што друго. Ако ги преобразите во средство, сте ја пропуш-
тиле суштината. Уживајте во нив!
Како наутро кога одите на прошетка - сонцето излегу-
ва, новиот ден се раѓа и животот повторно воскреснува.
Животот секогаш е готовина, а не обврзница, ништо не
ви ветува во иднината. Животот е како парите во готово,
кеш - веднаш, овде и сега ви го дава она што може да ви го
даде. Среќни сте, пеете и играте - правите ли тогаш прес-
метки? Водите ли дневник во кој велите: „Триесет години
играв и пеев, а се уште не ја сфаќам суштината на Бога"?
Ако е така, тогаш воопшто не сте играле и воопшто не сте
играч. Можеби технички сте способен да играте, но не сте
играч. Можеби сте технички подготвени, но не сте пејач.
Во тоа е разликата меѓу техничарот и играчот. Игра-
чот игра - и во тој момент се достигнал, затоа што во тој
момент тој е изгубен, егото умира, го нема играчот. По-
стои игра, но нема средиште. Тоа е бран во бескрајниот
океан, тоа е бран којшто се движи, постои, се топи, во него
нема никој што би манипулирал со чекорите. А постои и
техничарот, научениот играч: тој манипулира. Колку и да е
совршена, неговата игра е мртва, зашто постои манипула-
тор, постои некој што манипулира. Тој ќе калкулира: кол-
ку...?

 

[cvetanovskiigor]

Брилијантен говор на Ошо впрочем како и обично.

 

[cvetanovskiigor]

Oва е за атеистите

OSHO - The God Conspiracy

http://www.filesonic.com/en/file/2125083/The God Conspiracy.rar
МАЛ ИЗВАДОК
The skeptical mind is one of the most beautiful things in the world.
It has been condemned by the religions because they were not capable of answering skeptical
questions; they wanted only believers.
And the skeptical mind is just the opposite of the believer.
I am all in favor of the skeptical mind. Do not believe anything unless you have experienced it.
Do not believe anything -- go on questioning, however long it takes.
Truth is not cheap. It is not available to the believer; it is available only to the skeptical.
Just remember one thing: don't be skeptical halfheartedly. Be a total skeptic. When I say be a
total skeptic, I mean that your skeptical ideas should also be put to the same
test as anybody else's beliefs. Skepticism, when it is total, burns itself out because you have to
question and doubt your skepticism too. You cannot leave your skepticism without doubt;
otherwise that is the standpoint of the believer.
If you can doubt the skeptic in you, then the mystic is not far away.
What is a mystic? -- one who knows no answer, one who has asked every possible question and
found that no question is answerable. Finding this, he has dropped questioning. Not that he has
found the answer -- he has simply found one thing, that there is no answer anywhere.
Life is a mystery, not a question. Not a puzzle to be solved, not a question to be answered but a
mystery to be lived, a mystery to be loved, a mystery to be danced.
A totally skeptical mind is bound to finally become a mystic; hence, my doors are open for all. I
accept the skeptic because I know how to turn him into a mystic. I invite the theist because I
know how to destroy his theism. I invite the atheist because I know know how to turn him into a
mystic. I invite the theist because I know how to destroy his theism. I invite the atheist because I
know how to take away his atheism. My doors prevent nobody, because I am not giving you any
belief. I am giving you only a methodology, a meditation to discover for yourself what in reality
is the case.
I have found that there is no answer. All questions are futile, and all answers are more futile.
Questions have been asked by foolish people, and great philosophies have arisen because of
their questions. These philosophies are created by the cunning and the shrewd.
But if you want to have a rapport with reality, you have to be neither a fool nor shrewd. You
have to be innocent.
So whatever you bring -- skepticism, atheism, theism, communism, fascism, any type of
nonsense you can bring here -- my medicine is the same.
It does not matter what kind of nonsense is filled in your head when you come here. I will chop
your head without any distinction. Who is sitting on your head does not matter -- my concern is
chopping!
I am just a woodcutter.

--- надополнето ---

CAN YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT DOUBT AND NEGATIVITY?
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?
The difference between doubt and negativity is great.
They look alike; on the surface they have the same color, but deep down the difference is
unbridgeable.
First, doubt is not negativity; neither is it positivity. Doubt is an open mind, without any
prejudice. It is an inquiring approach.
Doubt is not saying anything, it is simply raising a question. That question is to know, to find
what the truth is.
Doubt is a pilgrimage. It is one of the most sacred values of human beings.
Doubt does not mean no. It simply says, "I do not know, and I am prepared to know. I am ready
to go as far as possible, but unless I myself come to know, how can I say yes?"
Negativity has already said no. It is not inquiry. It has come to a conclusion, the same way
somebody has come to the conclusion to say yes. One man says God is; his statement is positive.
The other says there is no God; his statement is negative. But both are sailing in the same boat,
they are not different people. They have not inquired.
Neither the theist has doubted nor the atheist has doubted; both have accepted borrowed
knowledge.
Doubt says that, "I myself would like to know, and unless I know for myself, it is not knowledge.
Only my experience is going to be decisive." He is not arrogant, he is not denying anything. He is
just open for inquiry.
Doubt is not disbelief -- that's how religions have been confusing people. They confuse doubt
with disbelief. In fact disbelief and belief are exactly the same. Both accept knowledge from
others, from books, from masters. And remember, anything that you do not know, yet you have
started believing or disbelieving in it... you have missed a great opportunity for inquiry. You have
closed the doors already, by yes or by no. You have not traveled.
It is easier to say yes, it is easier to say no, because there is nothing you have to do.
But to doubt needs guts. To doubt needs courage to remain in the state of not-knowing, and go
on questioning everything till the moment you yourself arrive at the reality.
When you come to the reality there is no negativity, no positivity. You simply know -- it is your
experience. I will not say it is positivity because positivity always has the other pole of negativity.
An experience goes beyond both; the whole world of polarities is transcended. That is true
wisdom.
Doubt is the way to truth. No or yes are not ways, they prevent you.
It will look very strange, that yes does the same thing as no. In dictionaries they are opposites,
but in reality they are not. They look opposite only, but both have not asked the question. Both
have not tried to find out what the case is.
The communist believes, exactly as the catholic believes. The communist believes that there is
no God. You can call it disbelief, but it is his belief. He has not inquired, he has not meditated; he
has done nothing to find out that there is no God. The theist says there IS God. He has also done
nothing. Both have chosen without moving an inch towards truth. That's why a very strange
thing happens: the person who is a theist, a believer, can become a disbeliever, an atheist, in a
single moment; and vice versa.
Before the revolution in Russia, Russia was one of the most theistic, religious countries of the
world. Millions of people in Russia could have sacrificed their life for God. After
the revolution, when the authority changed, when the priest changed, when The Holy Bible was
replaced by the holy DAS KAPITAL, within ten years the whole country became atheist.
It was amazing! People who had believed their whole life that there is God started disbelieving.
Even communists could not understand that these people are the same people who could have
died for God -- and now they are ready to die for no-God. Nobody has analyzed the situation up
to now, what happened there. This is the analysis of the fact:
negativity and positivity are both belief systems.
Doubt is against both. Doubt is the insistence of the individual that he wants to taste, to
experience the truth. He is not ready to accept it from anybody else, this way or that.
They are very, very rare people who doubt.
But let me say to you: Blessed are those who doubt, because they shall inherit the kingdom of
truth.
It is arduous to doubt, it is risky, it is dangerous. One is going into the unknown, with no
preparation, with no prejudice. He is entering into the dark hole, not even believing that there
will be the other end of the tunnel, and he will again come out of darkness. There is no belief; he
simply takes the challenge. There is only a quest, a question. He himself becomes a question.
It is very consoling to have the answer, and if it is freely available, as it is.... Jesus says, "Just
believe in me and you need not bother: I will take care. I will choose you at the day of judgment.
I will recommend you to God: `These are my people -- they should be allowed in paradise.' All
that you have to do is believe."
A real shortcut -- simple belief. That's why thousands of people around the world have believed,
and thousands of others have disbelieved. Their sources are different but the basic approach is
the same. In India there has been a very ancient philosophy, charvaka. That philosophy says
there is no God, no heaven, no hell, no punishment for your bad actions and no reward for your
good actions. And thousands have believed in it. It is negative, absolutely negative, but very
comfortable. You can steal, you can murder, you can do anything you like; after death nothing
survives.
In many ways the West has lagged behind the East, particularly as far as religion, philosophy,
culture, are concerned. Charvaka is a five-thousand-year-old ideology; Karl Marx just in the last
stage of the previous century said there is no God. He was not aware of charvaka, he thought he
had come to a great discovery. For five thousand years charvakas have already been saying that;
but they had not inquired.
The man who created the philosophy was Brihaspati -- must have been a man of charismatic
personality. He convinced people that you can do anything you want to because the thief, the
murderer, the saint, all fall: dust unto dust. And after death nothing is left; the saint disappears,
the sinner disappears. So don't bother at all about afterlife, there is none.
This is not inquiry, because charvakas and their master Brihaspati have never gone beyond
death. According to their philosophy, if they had gone they would have not come back -- so on
what grounds do they say that there is nothing left? Nobody has visited the land. But it is very
easy to believe. His famous statement is worth quoting.
Brihaspati says, RINAM KRITVA GHRITAM PIVET: "Even if you have to borrow money, borrow it,
but drink ghee as much as you can" -- because after death you are not going to be questioned,
punished. The person who had given you money cannot drag you into the court of God; there
are no such things. His whole philosophy is simply, "Eat, drink and be merry." You can believe in
it -- the theists will call it Disbelief.
And that's what Karl Marx did for the communists, he said that there is no soul, no
consciousness. It is a by-product of matter, so when the body falls apart, nothing is left.
This became a very dangerous attitude, because communists could kill people without thinking
twice.
Their belief is that by killing you are not committing any sin. There is nobody inside a person;
there is no inside. A man is chemistry, biology, physiology -- but there is no soul. Joseph Stalin
could kill almost one million people after the revolution without feeling even a slight doubt
about what he was doing.
In Soviet Russia man has been reduced to a mechanism. You can kill -- nothing is killed, because
there was nobody in the first place. It is just like a clock functioning. It moves, it shows you the
time; that does not mean that there is somebody inside. You can take the clock apart and you
will not find anything.

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Blessed are those who doubt, because they shall inherit the kingdom of
truth.
ХАХАХА sermon on the mount.

 

[cvetanovskiigor]

OSHO ON MEDITATION
Meditation is not a technique but an understanding. It cannot be taught; it can only be indicated. (From The Psychology of the Esoteric, 1971)
All techniques can be helpful but they are not exactly meditation, they are just a groping in the dark. Suddenly one day, doing something, you will become a witness. Doing a meditation like the dynamic, or kundalini or whirling, suddenly one day the meditation will go on but you will not be identified. You will sit silently behind, you will watch it -- that day meditation has happened; that day technique is no more a hindrance, no more a help. You can enjoy it if you like, like an exercise, it gives a certain vitality, but there is no need now -- the real meditation has happened. Meditation is witnessing. To meditate means to become a witness. Meditation is not a technique at all. This will be very confusing to you because I go on giving you techniques. In the ultimate sense meditation is not a technique; meditation is an understanding, awareness. But you need techniques because that final understanding is very far away from you; deep hidden in you, but still very far away from you. Right this moment you can attain it, but you will not attain it, because your moment goes on, your mind goes on. THIS very moment it is possible and yet impossible. Techniques will bridge the gap, they are just to bridge the gap. So in the beginning techniques are meditations; in the end you will laugh, techniques are not meditation. Meditation is a totally different quality of being, it has nothing to do with anything. But it will happen only in the end; don't think it has happened in the beginning, otherwise the gap will not be bridged.
(From Tantra: The Supreme Understanding, 1975)
Meditation is not a technique really. Because you cannot understand anything other than technique, I have to talk in terms of technique. Otherwise, meditation is not a technique at all. Meditation is nothing that you do. Meditation is something that you fall into, just like love. Meditation is something in which you can be, but you cannot do it. Doing ceases.
(From The Path of Love, 1976, emphasis added)
I am not saying to do anything. Meditation is not a doing at all, it is pure awareness. But a miracle happens, the greatest miracle in life. If you go on watching, tremendous and incredible things start happening. Your body becomes graceful, your body is no more restless, tense; your body starts becoming light, unburdened; you can see great weights, mountainous weights, falling from your body. Your body starts becoming pure of all kinds of toxins and poisons. You will see your mind is no more as active as before; its activity starts becoming less and less and gaps arise, gaps in which there are no thoughts. Those gaps are the most beautiful experiences because through those gaps you start seeing things as they are without any interference of the mind.
(From "The Miracle", 1980)
Meditation has to spread all over your life. Whatsoever you do, do meditatively. Walk meditatively, eat meditatively. If you are making love, make love meditatively. Meditation has to become your life twenty-four hours a day; then only the transformation.
(From "The Dhammapada: The Way of the Buddha", 1980)
Meditation is not something that you do, and then go for other things. Meditation is something like breathing: whatever you are doing is separate, but the breathing continues.
(From The Messiah, 1987)
Slowly slowly, meditation becomes your very life, your very heartbeat. That day is the most blessed day when you don't have to meditate -- you are meditation. Your very being, whatever you are doing or not doing, is silent, peaceful, loving, alert and aware of its eternity.
(From "The Zen Manifesto", 1989)

 

[cvetanovskiigor]

Between birth and death you have all kinds of false faces. Even a small child starts learning the
pseudo tricks, diplomacies. Just a small child – maybe one day old, just out of the womb – starts
learning, because he sees that if he smiles, then mother feels very good. If he smiles the mother
immediately gives her breast to him. If he smiles, the mother comes close, hugs him, pats him. He
has learned a trick, that if he wants the mother to be close to him, if he wants to be hugged and
kissed and talked to, he has to smile. Now the diplomat is born, the politician is born. Whenever he
wants the mother to pull him close... He cannot call, he cannot talk, but he can wait until she looks
at him then he can smile. The moment he smiles, the mother comes running. Now whether he feels
like smiling in this moment or not is not the point, he wants the mother, he wants to manipulate the
mother. He has a trick, a strategy, a technique which he has learned: smile, and mother comes.
Then he will go on smiling, and whenever he wants somebody to come close, he will smile. And this
face will not be the true face.
Your smiles are not true. Your tears are also not true. Your whole personality is synthetic, plastic.
The moral person, the so-called moralist, has many personalities but no individuality. The religious
person has individuality but no personality. He is one. His taste is always one.
Buddha is reported to have said: Taste me from anywhere and you will find the same taste as when
you taste the sea. From this side, from that side, from this shore, from that shore – taste the sea from
anywhere and it is salty. And Buddha says: So is my taste. Taste me while I am asleep, taste me
while I am awake, taste me when somebody is insulting me, taste me when somebody is praising
me – you will always find the same taste, the taste of a Buddha.
The religious person is an individual.
The second thing to be remembered: the moralist is always making efforts to impose his morality
on others – for many reasons. First: he uses his morality to manipulate himself. Naturally, he does
the same to others; he starts using his morality to manipulate others. He uses morality for his own
strategies, diplomacies. Naturally, he learns a trick: that if he can enforce his morality on others,
then things will be easier.
For example, if the moralist speaks the truth, his truth is not very deep. Deep down there are only
lies and lies. But at least in society he pretends to speak the truth. He will try to impose his truth on
others also. He would like everybody else to speak the truth, because he will be very much afraid
that if somebody lies and tricks him, deceives him... And he knows that he himself is Lying and
deceiving people in subtle words, but on the surface he keeps the truth. And he goes on shouting
’Everybody should be true!’ He is very much afraid. He knows that just as he is deceiving others,
others may be deceiving him.
Bertrand Russell has said that thieves are always against stealing. A thief has to be against stealing,
otherwise somebody will steal things from him. And he has been making so much effort to steal
things from others that if others steal things from him, then what will be the point? A thief will always
shout ’Stealing is bad! Never steal! You will be thrown into hell!’ So nobody steals, then the thief is
free to steal.
If nobody speaks untruths, then you can speak untruths and exploit people easily. If everybody
speaks untruths, how can you exploit? Just think: a society where everybody speaks untruths, and

it is an accepted phenomenon that everybody tells lies. Then you will be at a loss – you will not
be able to cheat people. Whatsoever you say, people will think you are a liar – ’Everybody tells lies
here’; nobody can be deceived. So, in his own interest, the liar has to go on preaching morality.
’Speak the truth, never steal, do this, do that’ – and from the back door he goes on doing just the
opposite. This has to be understood.
If somebody’s pocket is picked right now – somebody steals – then many will be there shouting
’Catch the thief! Kill the thief! Who is there?’ And many will shout. Remember, the shouters are
just showing one thing: that they are also thieves. By shouting they are showing many things. One
thing is: ’Remember, I am not the thief, because I am so much against. Nobody should ever think
or suspect me because I am against all of this kind of thing. I am a moral person.’ Those who are
pickpockets will shout more, and if the real pickpocket is caught, then the pickpockets will beat him
to show everybody that they are very much against it.
This is a very very complex phenomenon. A religious person is a totally different person. He will
be able to forgive, he will be able to understand. He will be able to see the limitations of man and
the problems of man. He will not be so hard and so cruel – he cannot be. His compassion will be
infinite.

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I Say Unto You, Vol 2

 

[exlexmk]

Игоре не уби со англискиов ... ја загуши темата тотално ...

 

[cvetanovskiigor]

Абе кој ке преведуе , вака боље ишта него ништа.
Инаку овие делови што ги вадам се стварно посебни и се за оние што не им се чита баш многу(ако има такви)
А истото го очекувам и од другите , секако , не би ми сметало и баш сакам да чујам што мислат другите.
Мада не се надевам многу.

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И еден да е вреди и за него , тоа е моја филозофија.