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Classics Professor, Richard F. Thomas, од Универзитетот на Харвард штотуку потврди дека го повлекол своето име и потпис од листата на потписниците на писмото и петицијата на Грчкиот проф. Милер, упатена кон Белата куќа.

Во својот одговор тој потенцираше:

"Ultimately, i agree on the absurdity of using ancient history as a basis for foreign policy."

Дополнително, Professor Daniel Tomkins не информираше дека неколкумина други професори исто така го повлекле својот потпис од ова писмо.


AMHRC & MHRMI Report Support from Academic World for their Response to Prof. Miller

Melbourne, Australia and Toronto, Canada, June 16, 2009 - The AMHRC and MHRMI wish to report that we have sent our response to all of Professor Miller's co-signatories. We have also sent it to a number of other academics working in this field. One of these other academics was Professor of Ancient History, Daniel Tompkins of Temple University in Philadelphia. He responded as follows (note the sentence explaining that many academics have refused to sign Professor Miller's letter):


To the Committee:

I am in your debt for a letter that is informative, well argued, and interesting! I shall save it and may refer to it.

Of course you may circulate my comments as desired. Some websites
have already picked them up, and I send my letter to MINA, incurring
some angry letters from people who disagreed. I have to say that
these are outweighed in number and quality by the positive responses.
Let me say that I'm regularly updating the underlying document as I
learn more.

Below is a letter I sent to British classicists that you might want to
use, which mentions a debate now underway at the archaeoastronomy
blog. It got a very good set of responses from very qualified
professionals. Please note the second sentence: this really is a
principled position of mine, stated also in the underlying letter. I
would not want the underlying letter (at astro.temple.etc) changed,
but I leave it to you, knowledgeable of your audience, to decide how
much emphasis to give it.

Best wishes,

Dan
__________________

June 13

To: CLASSICISTS@liverpool.ac.uk

I have followed the evolution of Professor Stephen Miller's letter to
President Obama since March. While there is good reason to deplore
any nation's appropriation of Alexander the Great for nationalistic
purposes, the letter goes beyond that scholarly position to involve
the author and co-signers on one side in an ongoing interstate dispute
in the Balkans, and it seemed necessary to respond. I have done so:

http://astro.temple.edu/~pericles/Letter.htm

with additional comments on Alun Salt's Archaeoastronomy website:

http://archaeoastronomy.wordpress.com/2 ... ment-39246

At this point in the discussion, let me repeat that the most
important mail I’ve received in the past two weeks comes not from
professors but victims, or better, grandchildren of victims who were
killed or tortured on both sides, equally horribly, in the 1940-1949
period.
These sad posts illustrate the long shelf life ot torture.
The pain of a tortured relative is transmitted through generations and
remains alive today, damaging all efforts at analysis and
argumentation. Resolving the problems posed by this set of memories,
deeply imbedded north and south of the border, strikes me as a major
challenge for all parties. I would like to see the dispute resolved
without further pain.

In addition to criticisms -- some of which I've used in revising --
I've received a batch of positive communications since posting my
letter, most notably from fine scholars in our field who refused to
sign Prof. Miller's letter, but also from some who work on modern
Greek history. In many ways, the best antidote to this letter would
be a subscription to the Journal of Modern Greek Studies, published by
the Modern Greek Studies Association in the USA.
The Journal has
published a number of serious critiques by Greek, British and American
scholars of the extreme nationalist policy Prof. Miller advocates:
one of the pities of the exercise is that the author and co-signers
show no cognizance of these. (Nor do they show awareness of the
impressive studies of ethnic development by scholars in our own field
and in modern Greek studies.)

I'm interested in hearing from members of this list, if anyone wants
to write.

Very truly yours,

Dan Tompkins
Temple University
pericles@temple.edu
 

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Грижа на совест....

ПРАВДАТА Е НАШИОТ ПАТ....ВИСТИНАТА Е НАШАТА ЦЕЛ!!!

МАКЕДОНИЈА НА МАКЕДОНЦИТЕ!!!

ДА НЕ СЕ ОБЕЗЛИЧИМЕ...ДА ГО СОЧУВАМЕ ИМЕТО!!!!
 
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Вистината си останува вистина, не се менува
 
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ОМД работат не спијат..
 
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СУУУПЕЕР :) Нека се освестат луѓето а не да бидат искористувани од циганите
 

Bratot

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Како ти почнал денов Дејане, така нека ти заврши :



AMHRC and MHRMI: Report More Support from the Academic World for their Response to Professor Miller
http://www.mhrmi.org/



Одговор од Американскиот Антропологист , Professor Loring Danforth, of Bates College in Lewistone, Maine:

Dear Members of the AMHRC and MHRMI:

Thank you for the copy of your response to Prof. Miller's letter. I
think it is excellent. You have written an intelligent and
well-supported scholarly summary of the history of the Macedonian
Question. You have also presented an accurate account of the present
political situation regarding the Macedonian minority in Greece and
the dispute over the recognition of the Republic of Macedonia under
its constitutional name. I find Prof. Miller's letter very troubling.
I suspect that the people who have signed it may not fully understand
the political purposes to which their letter will be put.

Sincerely yours,

Loring Danforth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loring_Danforth


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Golemite Uka-deli (Uciteli) i dobro-tvorci NIKOGAS ne barat materijalna nagrada za dobroto koe go pravat, i ukata koja ja delat.

UMD aku sakat da bidet ceneti, trebat pomalce da se cukat v gradi, a pokje da rabotat.

A okolu povlekvanjeto na potpisite, doprva mislam trebat da ja zasilime aktivnosta :pipi:
 
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Не се секирајте, сега одма ќе се јават нашите малодушни предавници и тие ќе стават по 10 потписи за секој изгубен универзитетски потпис.

ајде, листата е голема, знаете кои сте сите!

Кој и да го направил ова, НЕКА ЖИВЕЕ ДОЛГО!
 

Bratot

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Не бе, зашто да коментираат на темава, не им оди во прилог.


Гљупчо е актуелна ѕвезда :tapp:
 

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Штета што ги повлекуваат потписите, таман беше добра коцка во мозаикот - мазохизам на македонски начин, упс, македонски земете го условно, се преговара за името.
 
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kako steta so gi povlekuvaat potpisite???

dokolku uste potpisnici gi povlecet svojte potpisi, i razni drugi istoricari i naucnici gi predizvikat tezite koi gi postavi "profesorot" Miller, i se izvrsit pritisok vrz ustanovite kade se vraboteni (ili naucno-obrazovnite ustanovi od kad primet sredstva) i Miller i drugi profesori, i se srusit celiot proekt, toa ke e ne shamar, tuku knock-down / knock-out za grckata propaganda.

ne zaboravaj(te), site tie potpisi kostet MNOGU pari ;)
 

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