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Незнам за во Британија, ама во Ирска има многу места со исти имиња како кај нас, дури има луѓе со име Ламбе
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Гостин
Англо-Саксонските хронологии..
неколку најважни..
Manuscript A: The Parker Chronicle (60 B.C. - A.D. 1070),
Manuscript B: The Abigdon Chronicle I (A.D. 1 - A.D. 977),
Manuscript C: The Abigdon Chronicle II (60 B.C. - A.D. 1066),
Manuscript D: The Worcester Chronicle (A.D. 1 - A.D. 1079), (with twelfth-century addition 1080 - 1130 A.D.),
Manuscript E: The Laud (Petersburg) Chronicle (A.D. 1 - A.D. 1153),
Manuscript F: The Bilingual Canterbury Epitome (A.D. 1 - A.D. 1058).
кои опишуваат..
AZOV SEA = Meotedisc lakes, Meotedisc fen, Maeotidi lacus, Maeotidi paludes, palus Maeotis, paludes Maeotis, paludes Maeotidae, Paluz Meotidienes.
ALANIA = Valana, Alania, Valana, Valvy, Polovtzy ?! - see below.
ALBANIANS = Liubene, Albani.
AMAZONS LAND = Maegda land, Maegda londe, Amazonia.
ALBANIANS = Maegda land, Maegda londe, Amazonia.
BULGARIANS = Wlgari, Bulgari, Bougreis.
BUG RIVER = Armilla.
VANDALS = Wandali, Sea-cost Slavs.
HUNGARY = Hungaria, Hunia, Ungaria, Minor Ungaria.
BYZANTINE EMPIRE = Graecia, Constantinopolis,
VALACHIANS = Coralli, Blachi, Ilac, Blac, Turks ! (see below).
VALACHIA = Balchia.
VOLGA RIVER = Ethilia.
GALITZK-VOLYNSK RUSSIA = Galacia, Gallacia.
GERMANY = Gothia, Mesia, Theutonia, Germania, Allemania, Jermaine.
HIBERNIC OCEAN = The English Channel, Hibernicum occeanum.
HIBERNIA = Ireland (!)
GOTHIA = Germany, Island Gotland, Scandinavia, Tavrida (=old name of Crimea).
GUNNS = Hunni, Huni, Hun.
DACKS = Dani, Daneis.
DENMARK = Denemearc, Dacia, Dania, Desemone.
DUTCH = Daci, Dani, Norddene, Denen.
DARDANELLES (the strait) = St. Georg strait = branchium Sancti Georgii.
DERBENT (passage) = Alexander gates = Alexandres herga, Porta ferrea Alexandri, claustra Alexandri.
DNEPR RIVER = Aper.
DOGI = Russians (see below).
DON RIVER = Danai, Thanais, Tanais.
MEDIEVAL RUSSIA = Susie,Russie,Russie,Rusia,Russia,Ruthenia,Rutenia,Ruthia,Ruthena,Ruscia,Russcia, Russya,Rosie.
DANUBE RIVER = Danubius,Hister,Danuvius,Damaius,Deinphirus,Danube.
IRON GATES = see "Derbent".
IRELAND = Hybernia.
ICELAND = Ysolandia.
CAUCASUS = beorg Taurus,Caucasus.
CASPIAN SEA = Caspia garsecge,mare Caspium.
CASSARIA = Chasaria (! (see below)
KIEV = Chyo (!), Cleva (!), Riona (!),
CHINESE = Cathaii.
CORALLS = Wlaches (see above), Turks (see above),
RED SEA = mare Rubrum.
ENGLISH CHANNEL = Hibernic ocean , Hibernicum occeanum.
MARBURG = Merseburg.
MESIA = Moesia, Germany (see above),
MONGOLIANS = Moal, Tatars (see above),
NARVA = Armilla.
GERMANS = Germanici,Germani, Teutonici,Theutonici,Allemanni.
NETHERLANDS = Frisia, Arise.
NORMANS = Nordmenn.
OCEAN = Garsecg, Oceano, Oceanus, Occeanus,Ocean.
PECHENEGS (medieval neighbours of Russians) = Getae.
POLOVTZY (medieval neighbours of Russians) = Planeti, Captac, Cumani, Comanii,Alani, Values, Valani.(See Comment 1.)
PRUSSIA = Prutenia (!).(P-Rutenia = P-Russia).
PRUSSES = Prateni, Pruteni, Pructeni, Prusceni, Praceni, Pruceni.
RIONA = Kiev (see above
RUGS = Russians, , Sea-cost, Slavs (see below)
RUSSIANS = Russii, Dogi (!), Rugi (!), Rutheni (!), Rusceni.
RUTHENS = Russians (see above)
THE ARCTIC OCEAN = Sciffia garsecg, Occeanus Septentrionalis, mare Scythicum.
SITHIA = Scithia (see above)
SCANDINAVIANS = Gothi.
SCYTHS = Scithes, Scythae, Cit (!).
SCITHIA = Sithia, Barbaria, Scithia, Scythia, Sice (!).
SEA-SIDE SCLAVI = Winedas, Wandali, Roge.
TAVR = Caucasus (see above)
TAVRIDA (CRIMEA) = Gothia (!!!)
TANAIS = Don (see above)
TYRRHENIAN SEA = mare Tyrene.
TATARS (MONGOLS) = Tartareori, gens Tartarins, Tartari, Tartariti, Tartarii, Tattari, Tatari, Tartarii, Thartarei.
TURKS = Coralli,Thurki,Turci,Blachi, Ilac, Blac (!!!).
URAL MOUNTAINS = Riffeng beorgum, Hyberborei montes, montes Riph(a)eis, Hyperborei montes.
FRANCE = Gallia, Francia.
FRISIA = The Netherlands (see above.)
CHASARIA = Cassaria, Cessaria (!!!).
CHASARS = Chazari.
CHIO = Kiev (see above)
SCOTLAND = Scotia, Gutlonde.
BLACK SEA = Euxinus, Pontius, mare Ponticum, mare Majus.
CHINGIS-CHAN = Cingis, Churchitan, Zingiton, Chircam, Cliyrcam, Gurgatan, Gurgatan, Cecarcarus, Ingischam, Tharsis (!), DAVID (!), PRESBYTER IOHANNES (!!).
JAROSLAV THE WISE (Kiev Princeps Magnus) = Malesclodus, Malescoldus. Juriscloth (= Jurius- Georgius), Juliusclodius (= Julius-Clodius). Julius Claudius.
русија..
Let us present a typical example of old English historical text: "He escaped to the kingdom of Dogs, which we prefer to call RUSSIA. When the king of [this] land - MALESCLODUS - learned about him, he was given a great honor"
Here is a Latin original text: "Aufugit ad regnum Dogorum, quod nos melius vocamus Russiam. Quem rex terrae Malescoldus nomine, ut cognovit quis esset, honeste retinuit"
..Тhis example suggests that even a direct understanding...
и плус..
For example, it is well-known that the old name of England and English people was not "England" but "Anglia", "Angles" (from "Angel"), maybe "Angeln" ([2], p.12-13,289).
Term "Angels" as a name of population appears in Anglo-Saxon Chronicle at a date 443 A.D. After that this term is used constantly.
The first king which was called as "king of Anglia (England)" was Athelstan (925-940) ([7],p.340).
Note that "Angels" was also a famous noble feudal family in Byzantine which includes Byzantine emperor dynasty of Angels (1185-1204) ([15], p.166).
The natural question arises:
may be the name "England" - "Angels" - "Anglia" is the reflection of the name of Byzantine dynasty Angels of 11-12th cc.?
зошто?....
пратејќи ја Англиската официјална рано-средновековна хронологија..
се добива впечаток дека е (со околу 300 г.) копија на МАКЕДОНСКО-(ВИЗАНТИЈСКАТА) ИМПЕРИЈА (хронологија)..
т.е..
како да ја опишуваат токму таа Источно-Римската Империја..
како?...
The answer will be extremely simple if we will erase from our minds the picture which is imposed by traditional Scaliger's chronology.
Starting from 11th century, several crusades storm the Byzantine empire. Several feudal crusaders' states were founded on the territory of Byzantine empire in 11-14th cc. In these states many nations were mixed: local population, the crusaders from England, France, Germany, Italy etc. In these crusaders' regions and in Byzantine empire the new culture was created, in particular, were written a historical chronicles. Among Byzantine inhabitants were a lot of people from Europe, in particular, from some island, which later will be called England....
In 1453 A.D. Turks conquered Constantinople.......
In 16-17th centuries some qualified historians appear and start to create the general history of the whole land Anglia ("from the beginning")....
They search for ancient documents. Suddenly they find several old trunks with "very old" documents. The documents are dusty, the paper is very fragile, and the old books fall to pieces. These chronicles were transported from Byzantine empire. But now (in 16-17th cc.) nobody knew this. Unfortunately, the prehistory of these trunks is forgotten. And, unfortunately, is forgotten that these chronicles describe the history of ANOTHER LAND. ...
The English historians of 16-17th centuries carefully analyse these texts as the history "of island England" and put them into the basis of "old British-island history, which started many centuries ago". In some strong sense they were right because really the authors of the chronicles were closely connected with island Anglia (but, let us repeat, described ANOTHER LAND - Byzantine empire)....
And only today, using some statistical and other methods we start to discover some strange regularities inside the "history textbook" and start to realize that the real history was possibly sufficiently shorter and that today we need to remove from the "old English history" its "Byzantine part" and return this piece to its right place (in time and in the geographical sense).........
Do we interpret ancient texts in a proper way? Problem of vowels restoration. In the attempt to read and date the most of the ancient manuscripts (ancient Egyptian, ancient Slavonic, biblical et cetera) certain basic problems are frequently encountered.]...
the original language of the Old Testament, he, in his words, "...faced the fact of enormous and even startling importance. The thing is that the Jewish written language originally had neither vowels nor signs replacing them. The books of the Old Testament were written only with consonants" ([16], p. 155)......
This is also typical for other languages. For example, an ancient Slavonic text was a chain of only consonants, too; sometimes even without signs replacing the vowels, or without division into words. Old Egyptian texts were also written in consonants only....
неколку најважни..
Manuscript A: The Parker Chronicle (60 B.C. - A.D. 1070),
Manuscript B: The Abigdon Chronicle I (A.D. 1 - A.D. 977),
Manuscript C: The Abigdon Chronicle II (60 B.C. - A.D. 1066),
Manuscript D: The Worcester Chronicle (A.D. 1 - A.D. 1079), (with twelfth-century addition 1080 - 1130 A.D.),
Manuscript E: The Laud (Petersburg) Chronicle (A.D. 1 - A.D. 1153),
Manuscript F: The Bilingual Canterbury Epitome (A.D. 1 - A.D. 1058).
кои опишуваат..
AZOV SEA = Meotedisc lakes, Meotedisc fen, Maeotidi lacus, Maeotidi paludes, palus Maeotis, paludes Maeotis, paludes Maeotidae, Paluz Meotidienes.
ALANIA = Valana, Alania, Valana, Valvy, Polovtzy ?! - see below.
ALBANIANS = Liubene, Albani.
AMAZONS LAND = Maegda land, Maegda londe, Amazonia.
ALBANIANS = Maegda land, Maegda londe, Amazonia.
BULGARIANS = Wlgari, Bulgari, Bougreis.
BUG RIVER = Armilla.
VANDALS = Wandali, Sea-cost Slavs.
HUNGARY = Hungaria, Hunia, Ungaria, Minor Ungaria.
BYZANTINE EMPIRE = Graecia, Constantinopolis,
VALACHIANS = Coralli, Blachi, Ilac, Blac, Turks ! (see below).
VALACHIA = Balchia.
VOLGA RIVER = Ethilia.
GALITZK-VOLYNSK RUSSIA = Galacia, Gallacia.
GERMANY = Gothia, Mesia, Theutonia, Germania, Allemania, Jermaine.
HIBERNIC OCEAN = The English Channel, Hibernicum occeanum.
HIBERNIA = Ireland (!)
GOTHIA = Germany, Island Gotland, Scandinavia, Tavrida (=old name of Crimea).
GUNNS = Hunni, Huni, Hun.
DACKS = Dani, Daneis.
DENMARK = Denemearc, Dacia, Dania, Desemone.
DUTCH = Daci, Dani, Norddene, Denen.
DARDANELLES (the strait) = St. Georg strait = branchium Sancti Georgii.
DERBENT (passage) = Alexander gates = Alexandres herga, Porta ferrea Alexandri, claustra Alexandri.
DNEPR RIVER = Aper.
DOGI = Russians (see below).
DON RIVER = Danai, Thanais, Tanais.
MEDIEVAL RUSSIA = Susie,Russie,Russie,Rusia,Russia,Ruthenia,Rutenia,Ruthia,Ruthena,Ruscia,Russcia, Russya,Rosie.
DANUBE RIVER = Danubius,Hister,Danuvius,Damaius,Deinphirus,Danube.
IRON GATES = see "Derbent".
IRELAND = Hybernia.
ICELAND = Ysolandia.
CAUCASUS = beorg Taurus,Caucasus.
CASPIAN SEA = Caspia garsecge,mare Caspium.
CASSARIA = Chasaria (! (see below)
KIEV = Chyo (!), Cleva (!), Riona (!),
CHINESE = Cathaii.
CORALLS = Wlaches (see above), Turks (see above),
RED SEA = mare Rubrum.
ENGLISH CHANNEL = Hibernic ocean , Hibernicum occeanum.
MARBURG = Merseburg.
MESIA = Moesia, Germany (see above),
MONGOLIANS = Moal, Tatars (see above),
NARVA = Armilla.
GERMANS = Germanici,Germani, Teutonici,Theutonici,Allemanni.
NETHERLANDS = Frisia, Arise.
NORMANS = Nordmenn.
OCEAN = Garsecg, Oceano, Oceanus, Occeanus,Ocean.
PECHENEGS (medieval neighbours of Russians) = Getae.
POLOVTZY (medieval neighbours of Russians) = Planeti, Captac, Cumani, Comanii,Alani, Values, Valani.(See Comment 1.)
PRUSSIA = Prutenia (!).(P-Rutenia = P-Russia).
PRUSSES = Prateni, Pruteni, Pructeni, Prusceni, Praceni, Pruceni.
RIONA = Kiev (see above
RUGS = Russians, , Sea-cost, Slavs (see below)
RUSSIANS = Russii, Dogi (!), Rugi (!), Rutheni (!), Rusceni.
RUTHENS = Russians (see above)
THE ARCTIC OCEAN = Sciffia garsecg, Occeanus Septentrionalis, mare Scythicum.
SITHIA = Scithia (see above)
SCANDINAVIANS = Gothi.
SCYTHS = Scithes, Scythae, Cit (!).
SCITHIA = Sithia, Barbaria, Scithia, Scythia, Sice (!).
SEA-SIDE SCLAVI = Winedas, Wandali, Roge.
TAVR = Caucasus (see above)
TAVRIDA (CRIMEA) = Gothia (!!!)
TANAIS = Don (see above)
TYRRHENIAN SEA = mare Tyrene.
TATARS (MONGOLS) = Tartareori, gens Tartarins, Tartari, Tartariti, Tartarii, Tattari, Tatari, Tartarii, Thartarei.
TURKS = Coralli,Thurki,Turci,Blachi, Ilac, Blac (!!!).
URAL MOUNTAINS = Riffeng beorgum, Hyberborei montes, montes Riph(a)eis, Hyperborei montes.
FRANCE = Gallia, Francia.
FRISIA = The Netherlands (see above.)
CHASARIA = Cassaria, Cessaria (!!!).
CHASARS = Chazari.
CHIO = Kiev (see above)
SCOTLAND = Scotia, Gutlonde.
BLACK SEA = Euxinus, Pontius, mare Ponticum, mare Majus.
CHINGIS-CHAN = Cingis, Churchitan, Zingiton, Chircam, Cliyrcam, Gurgatan, Gurgatan, Cecarcarus, Ingischam, Tharsis (!), DAVID (!), PRESBYTER IOHANNES (!!).
JAROSLAV THE WISE (Kiev Princeps Magnus) = Malesclodus, Malescoldus. Juriscloth (= Jurius- Georgius), Juliusclodius (= Julius-Clodius). Julius Claudius.
русија..
Let us present a typical example of old English historical text: "He escaped to the kingdom of Dogs, which we prefer to call RUSSIA. When the king of [this] land - MALESCLODUS - learned about him, he was given a great honor"
Here is a Latin original text: "Aufugit ad regnum Dogorum, quod nos melius vocamus Russiam. Quem rex terrae Malescoldus nomine, ut cognovit quis esset, honeste retinuit"
..Тhis example suggests that even a direct understanding...
и плус..
For example, it is well-known that the old name of England and English people was not "England" but "Anglia", "Angles" (from "Angel"), maybe "Angeln" ([2], p.12-13,289).
Term "Angels" as a name of population appears in Anglo-Saxon Chronicle at a date 443 A.D. After that this term is used constantly.
The first king which was called as "king of Anglia (England)" was Athelstan (925-940) ([7],p.340).
Note that "Angels" was also a famous noble feudal family in Byzantine which includes Byzantine emperor dynasty of Angels (1185-1204) ([15], p.166).
The natural question arises:
may be the name "England" - "Angels" - "Anglia" is the reflection of the name of Byzantine dynasty Angels of 11-12th cc.?
зошто?....
пратејќи ја Англиската официјална рано-средновековна хронологија..
се добива впечаток дека е (со околу 300 г.) копија на МАКЕДОНСКО-(ВИЗАНТИЈСКАТА) ИМПЕРИЈА (хронологија)..
т.е..
како да ја опишуваат токму таа Источно-Римската Империја..
како?...
The answer will be extremely simple if we will erase from our minds the picture which is imposed by traditional Scaliger's chronology.
Starting from 11th century, several crusades storm the Byzantine empire. Several feudal crusaders' states were founded on the territory of Byzantine empire in 11-14th cc. In these states many nations were mixed: local population, the crusaders from England, France, Germany, Italy etc. In these crusaders' regions and in Byzantine empire the new culture was created, in particular, were written a historical chronicles. Among Byzantine inhabitants were a lot of people from Europe, in particular, from some island, which later will be called England....
In 1453 A.D. Turks conquered Constantinople.......
In 16-17th centuries some qualified historians appear and start to create the general history of the whole land Anglia ("from the beginning")....
They search for ancient documents. Suddenly they find several old trunks with "very old" documents. The documents are dusty, the paper is very fragile, and the old books fall to pieces. These chronicles were transported from Byzantine empire. But now (in 16-17th cc.) nobody knew this. Unfortunately, the prehistory of these trunks is forgotten. And, unfortunately, is forgotten that these chronicles describe the history of ANOTHER LAND. ...
The English historians of 16-17th centuries carefully analyse these texts as the history "of island England" and put them into the basis of "old British-island history, which started many centuries ago". In some strong sense they were right because really the authors of the chronicles were closely connected with island Anglia (but, let us repeat, described ANOTHER LAND - Byzantine empire)....
And only today, using some statistical and other methods we start to discover some strange regularities inside the "history textbook" and start to realize that the real history was possibly sufficiently shorter and that today we need to remove from the "old English history" its "Byzantine part" and return this piece to its right place (in time and in the geographical sense).........
Do we interpret ancient texts in a proper way? Problem of vowels restoration. In the attempt to read and date the most of the ancient manuscripts (ancient Egyptian, ancient Slavonic, biblical et cetera) certain basic problems are frequently encountered.]...
the original language of the Old Testament, he, in his words, "...faced the fact of enormous and even startling importance. The thing is that the Jewish written language originally had neither vowels nor signs replacing them. The books of the Old Testament were written only with consonants" ([16], p. 155)......
This is also typical for other languages. For example, an ancient Slavonic text was a chain of only consonants, too; sometimes even without signs replacing the vowels, or without division into words. Old Egyptian texts were also written in consonants only....
A
anaveno
Гостин
..For example, Brutus' army arrived in Sparatin. Modern commentary: "Location is unknown" ([9],p.230). Of course, you cannot find Sparatin if you assume that Brutus travel far from Mediterranean sea. But if these events occurred in Greece, then you do not need to search Sparatin, because this is well-known Sparta....
Then Galfridus describes the battle between Brutus' army and Greeks on the Akalon (Acalon) river ([9],p.8). The modern commentary is as follows: "This name is, possibly, the fantasy of Galfridus...
After some time they (Brutus' fleet) arrived to "the island which was called Albion" ([9],p.17). Modern commentary: Albion = Al'bania - one of the early (old) names of Britain or the part of it, which was appeared in ancient sources" ([9],p.232).
When speaking about Britain, Galfridus very often uses its second equivalent name: Al'bania ([9],p.19).
Thus, Britain = Al'bania.
The name Albania or Al'bania was slightly transformed into Albion later (occasionally or, possible, deliberately), when somebody decided to erase the evident traces of Byzantine origin of the old English chronicles....
Brutus' army meets in battle with 12 giants (among them - Goemagog). Initially, Britts were defeated....
The modern commentary:
"Galfridus combined in one name two ones: Gog and Magog" ..
и сега Библијата..откровението..
"Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to deceive the nations... Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea" (Revelation, 20:7-8)...
The modern historian tells us: "Late the people fantasy transformed Gog and Magog into spiteful, malicious giants. In London starting from the Middle Ages there are two monuments - the figures of Gog and Magog (near entrance to the City, today near town hall" ([9],p.232)....
И СЕГА..
These two medieval nations are well-known and are identified according to some medieval chroniclers with Goths and Mongols. In 13th c.A.D. Hungarians considered Gog and Magog as Tartars ([9],p.174). All these facts forced us to move the events described by Galfridus into Byzantine Empire (or in neighboring countries).................
Traditional explanation is as follows: Britts are the descendants of Brutus. This "explanation" explains nothing.
Basing on our experience, we can suspect that "Britts" of 10-12th cc.A.D. is some real nation of Middle Ages living in some part of Byzantine Empire. We do not need to search too long. The answer is on the surface........
An important part of Roman-Byzantine Empire is Romania = Rumania, and also Bulgaria. Here you can see the well-known river Danube with large afflux Prut = PRT (without vowels) or = BRT. ...
....But another answer is also possible..........
According to the Abglo-Saxon Chronicle, the British language is the language Welsh ([2],p.3). But Welsh is evidently Vlachi = Blachi and, according to the Matuzova's dictionary, denotes the Thurki = Turci = Turks. If so, in some cases the Britts can be identified with Turks (at least in some medieval chronicles). But this identification again leads us to the Byzantine Empire as the location of early English history.
We hope that we gave the reasonable answer of the natural question:
With whom Julius Caesar fights while conquering of Britain = Albania?
И ЛОВЕ ЛОНДОН..
Galfridus:
"When finishing with the division of the kingdom, Brutus decided to built a new town-capital... He founded the town and called it NEW TROY (! - Auth.). The town preserved this name during many years and then, because of distortion the initial title, the name was transformed into TRINOVANT. After this, Lud... who fighted with Julius Caesar,... ordered to call the town CAERLUD which means "Town of Lud" (the word Caer = Cair means simply "town", see details below - Auth.). It was the cause of a great conflict between Lud and his brother Nennius, because Nennius was not agree with Lud who wanted to forget the initial name TROY" ([9],p.18).
And then: "The title was distorted and was transformed into Caerludein, then into Lundene and finally, into Lundres" ([9],p.37).
The modern commentary: "Trinovant is today the city London" ([9],p.232).Thus, the old English chronicles states that:
New Troy = Trinovant = Lud = Lundene = London.....
Thus, Galfridus possibly tells us about the 1st crusade of 1099 A.D. As the result of crusade, the new capital was founded - NEW TROY = future Constantinople.
Let us attract the attention of the reader to the following remarkable fact. There exists a well-known town TYRNOVO in Bulgaria. But this name is similar to the name TRINOVANT and means simply TROY NEW, i.e., TROY NEW = TyrNovo. It becomes clear that the name Trinovant was initially appeared in Byzantine Empire, on the Balkan Peninsula, in the Slavonic region and its initial meaning was NEW TROY. In English the word new means the same as Slavonic nova or new. Thus, one the initial names of LONDON was TROY NEW (its trace is Tyrnovo in Bulgaria). It is interesting that Galfridus states the same, when he tells us about transformation of the name NEW TROY into TRINOVANT. In reality, this is not a transformation, but simply the transposition of two words: Troy and New inside the joint title.
It is clear also, that "town Lud" means simply "town LD" or "town LT", i.e. = "town of Latins" = "Latin town". The appearance of the name LT in old English chronicles is quite natural: in the epoch of crusades in 1204 A.D. the new LATIN EMPIRE was appeared on the territory of Byzantine Empire. Latin Empire gave its name to the capital: LATIN TOWN, i.e. Caer-Lud (Cair-Lud). Nennius tells us that word "Cair" means in old Britts' language "Town" ([8],p.190).
Identification of New Troy = London with Constantinople follows also from the following fact. As we saw, New Troy was called later Cair-Lud or Caer-Lud. But Caer or CR (without vowels) sounds also, for example in Slav languages, as ZR because of often oscillation between C and Z. Thus, CR or ZR is evidently ZAR (czar = zar which means "king", "ruler"). Slavonic name for Constantinople was ZAR-GRAD, which means "king-town". Thus, CAER-LUD = ZAR-LUD, i.e. "king-town of Latins" (Latin king town). This is exactly Constantinople = ZAR-GRAD in Slav language.
Trained reader expects that the whole this story of Galfridus (about origin of London's name) the modern historical science claims as wrong and erroneous:
The Galfridus' information about the history and origin of the name London (from the name of Lud) is wrong. The antique authors (Tacitus, Ammian Marcellinus) call this town Londinium or Lundinium. The real history of the name of London is disputable" ([9],p.237).
(ДА (ПРОДОЛЖАМ?) НАПОМЕНАМ ДЕКА Е ОВА ОД РУСКИ УЧЕНИ)
Then Galfridus describes the battle between Brutus' army and Greeks on the Akalon (Acalon) river ([9],p.8). The modern commentary is as follows: "This name is, possibly, the fantasy of Galfridus...
After some time they (Brutus' fleet) arrived to "the island which was called Albion" ([9],p.17). Modern commentary: Albion = Al'bania - one of the early (old) names of Britain or the part of it, which was appeared in ancient sources" ([9],p.232).
When speaking about Britain, Galfridus very often uses its second equivalent name: Al'bania ([9],p.19).
Thus, Britain = Al'bania.
The name Albania or Al'bania was slightly transformed into Albion later (occasionally or, possible, deliberately), when somebody decided to erase the evident traces of Byzantine origin of the old English chronicles....
Brutus' army meets in battle with 12 giants (among them - Goemagog). Initially, Britts were defeated....
The modern commentary:
"Galfridus combined in one name two ones: Gog and Magog" ..
и сега Библијата..откровението..
"Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to deceive the nations... Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea" (Revelation, 20:7-8)...
The modern historian tells us: "Late the people fantasy transformed Gog and Magog into spiteful, malicious giants. In London starting from the Middle Ages there are two monuments - the figures of Gog and Magog (near entrance to the City, today near town hall" ([9],p.232)....
И СЕГА..
These two medieval nations are well-known and are identified according to some medieval chroniclers with Goths and Mongols. In 13th c.A.D. Hungarians considered Gog and Magog as Tartars ([9],p.174). All these facts forced us to move the events described by Galfridus into Byzantine Empire (or in neighboring countries).................
Traditional explanation is as follows: Britts are the descendants of Brutus. This "explanation" explains nothing.
Basing on our experience, we can suspect that "Britts" of 10-12th cc.A.D. is some real nation of Middle Ages living in some part of Byzantine Empire. We do not need to search too long. The answer is on the surface........
An important part of Roman-Byzantine Empire is Romania = Rumania, and also Bulgaria. Here you can see the well-known river Danube with large afflux Prut = PRT (without vowels) or = BRT. ...
....But another answer is also possible..........
According to the Abglo-Saxon Chronicle, the British language is the language Welsh ([2],p.3). But Welsh is evidently Vlachi = Blachi and, according to the Matuzova's dictionary, denotes the Thurki = Turci = Turks. If so, in some cases the Britts can be identified with Turks (at least in some medieval chronicles). But this identification again leads us to the Byzantine Empire as the location of early English history.
We hope that we gave the reasonable answer of the natural question:
With whom Julius Caesar fights while conquering of Britain = Albania?
И ЛОВЕ ЛОНДОН..
Galfridus:
"When finishing with the division of the kingdom, Brutus decided to built a new town-capital... He founded the town and called it NEW TROY (! - Auth.). The town preserved this name during many years and then, because of distortion the initial title, the name was transformed into TRINOVANT. After this, Lud... who fighted with Julius Caesar,... ordered to call the town CAERLUD which means "Town of Lud" (the word Caer = Cair means simply "town", see details below - Auth.). It was the cause of a great conflict between Lud and his brother Nennius, because Nennius was not agree with Lud who wanted to forget the initial name TROY" ([9],p.18).
And then: "The title was distorted and was transformed into Caerludein, then into Lundene and finally, into Lundres" ([9],p.37).
The modern commentary: "Trinovant is today the city London" ([9],p.232).Thus, the old English chronicles states that:
New Troy = Trinovant = Lud = Lundene = London.....
Thus, Galfridus possibly tells us about the 1st crusade of 1099 A.D. As the result of crusade, the new capital was founded - NEW TROY = future Constantinople.
Let us attract the attention of the reader to the following remarkable fact. There exists a well-known town TYRNOVO in Bulgaria. But this name is similar to the name TRINOVANT and means simply TROY NEW, i.e., TROY NEW = TyrNovo. It becomes clear that the name Trinovant was initially appeared in Byzantine Empire, on the Balkan Peninsula, in the Slavonic region and its initial meaning was NEW TROY. In English the word new means the same as Slavonic nova or new. Thus, one the initial names of LONDON was TROY NEW (its trace is Tyrnovo in Bulgaria). It is interesting that Galfridus states the same, when he tells us about transformation of the name NEW TROY into TRINOVANT. In reality, this is not a transformation, but simply the transposition of two words: Troy and New inside the joint title.
It is clear also, that "town Lud" means simply "town LD" or "town LT", i.e. = "town of Latins" = "Latin town". The appearance of the name LT in old English chronicles is quite natural: in the epoch of crusades in 1204 A.D. the new LATIN EMPIRE was appeared on the territory of Byzantine Empire. Latin Empire gave its name to the capital: LATIN TOWN, i.e. Caer-Lud (Cair-Lud). Nennius tells us that word "Cair" means in old Britts' language "Town" ([8],p.190).
Identification of New Troy = London with Constantinople follows also from the following fact. As we saw, New Troy was called later Cair-Lud or Caer-Lud. But Caer or CR (without vowels) sounds also, for example in Slav languages, as ZR because of often oscillation between C and Z. Thus, CR or ZR is evidently ZAR (czar = zar which means "king", "ruler"). Slavonic name for Constantinople was ZAR-GRAD, which means "king-town". Thus, CAER-LUD = ZAR-LUD, i.e. "king-town of Latins" (Latin king town). This is exactly Constantinople = ZAR-GRAD in Slav language.
Trained reader expects that the whole this story of Galfridus (about origin of London's name) the modern historical science claims as wrong and erroneous:
The Galfridus' information about the history and origin of the name London (from the name of Lud) is wrong. The antique authors (Tacitus, Ammian Marcellinus) call this town Londinium or Lundinium. The real history of the name of London is disputable" ([9],p.237).
(ДА (ПРОДОЛЖАМ?) НАПОМЕНАМ ДЕКА Е ОВА ОД РУСКИ УЧЕНИ)
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ЧАИР МААЛА..НЕ Е ШАЛА..
Nennius listed in his chronicle "the names of all towns which exist in Britain, and their number is 28" ([8],p.190). The modern commentary:
"Cair means Town in Britts' language" ([8],p.283). We can note here that the capital of Egypt is Cairo. Consequently, we see again, that in Britts' language the clear "Eastern trace" was remained. May be, this fact indicates the Eastern origin of initial old English history....
Today the name of the "London river" is Thames. But because all these events are happened in the East, we need to remember that here some people read the text in opposite direction: from the right to the left (in Europe: from the left to the right). The word SOUND (= strait) without vowels is SND and after opposite reading is DNS. Because D and T were sometimes equivalent, and the same is valid to M and N, we see that the following conjecture (equivalence) is possible: DNS = TMS, i.e. "sound" = "Thames".
From the other hand, Thames is practically identical with Themis. But Themis is the name of well-known АНТИЧКА МАКЕДОНСКА т.е. како што кажуваат "GREEK" goddess of justice....
Nennius listed in his chronicle "the names of all towns which exist in Britain, and their number is 28" ([8],p.190). The modern commentary:
"Cair means Town in Britts' language" ([8],p.283). We can note here that the capital of Egypt is Cairo. Consequently, we see again, that in Britts' language the clear "Eastern trace" was remained. May be, this fact indicates the Eastern origin of initial old English history....
Today the name of the "London river" is Thames. But because all these events are happened in the East, we need to remember that here some people read the text in opposite direction: from the right to the left (in Europe: from the left to the right). The word SOUND (= strait) without vowels is SND and after opposite reading is DNS. Because D and T were sometimes equivalent, and the same is valid to M and N, we see that the following conjecture (equivalence) is possible: DNS = TMS, i.e. "sound" = "Thames".
From the other hand, Thames is practically identical with Themis. But Themis is the name of well-known АНТИЧКА МАКЕДОНСКА т.е. како што кажуваат "GREEK" goddess of justice....
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Scots = Scyths.
In other words, Scotland = the Land of Scyths = Scithi-Land.
Scyths lived in Scythia, which is partially identified with
some regions in modern Russia. Old English chronicles call
Scythia also as Scithia, Sice, Sithia, Barbaria (see [10]). Are
there some "traces" of medieval name Scots (for Scyths) in modern
Russia? Yes! It is known that Scyths are considered partially as
the nation which cultivated the cattle. But before now the
Russian term for "cattle" =(стока; добиток ) is SCOT.
..Е АЈ НЕ БИДИ СКОТ..
On the first page of Anglo-Saxon Chronicle the following
important information is presented: "Here in this island (i.e. in Britain - Auth.) are five languages:
English, British or Welsh, Irish, Pictish, and Latin...
1) Appearance of the name Anglia (English) in the old
English history is quite natural - this is the evident reflection
of well-known dynasty of Byzantine emperors: Angels = Angelus
(1185-1204).
3-a) The name British = BRT (and its duplicate=equivalent
Welsh, see [2]) also is presented in the medieval Byzantine
history. This is the name of Prussians=Pruteni = PRT (see above).
3-b) The English term Welsh is also well-known in medieval
Byzantine empire. ..
The name Vlachi=Blachi or Volochi is well-known in the
medieval Europe. Starting from 9th c. A.D., they lived on the
territory of modern Romania = Rumania ([11],p.352) and they
formed the state Valachia. It is remarkable that the another,
second name for Valachia...
One of the main residences of Byzantine emperors
was in Vlachern Palace ([25],p.226-229). This "Palace was the
favorite residence of Comnenus" ([15],p.137). Greeks called it
Vlacherni....
In other words, Scotland = the Land of Scyths = Scithi-Land.
Scyths lived in Scythia, which is partially identified with
some regions in modern Russia. Old English chronicles call
Scythia also as Scithia, Sice, Sithia, Barbaria (see [10]). Are
there some "traces" of medieval name Scots (for Scyths) in modern
Russia? Yes! It is known that Scyths are considered partially as
the nation which cultivated the cattle. But before now the
Russian term for "cattle" =(стока; добиток ) is SCOT.
..Е АЈ НЕ БИДИ СКОТ..
On the first page of Anglo-Saxon Chronicle the following
important information is presented: "Here in this island (i.e. in Britain - Auth.) are five languages:
English, British or Welsh, Irish, Pictish, and Latin...
1) Appearance of the name Anglia (English) in the old
English history is quite natural - this is the evident reflection
of well-known dynasty of Byzantine emperors: Angels = Angelus
(1185-1204).
3-a) The name British = BRT (and its duplicate=equivalent
Welsh, see [2]) also is presented in the medieval Byzantine
history. This is the name of Prussians=Pruteni = PRT (see above).
3-b) The English term Welsh is also well-known in medieval
Byzantine empire. ..
The name Vlachi=Blachi or Volochi is well-known in the
medieval Europe. Starting from 9th c. A.D., they lived on the
territory of modern Romania = Rumania ([11],p.352) and they
formed the state Valachia. It is remarkable that the another,
second name for Valachia...
One of the main residences of Byzantine emperors
was in Vlachern Palace ([25],p.226-229). This "Palace was the
favorite residence of Comnenus" ([15],p.137). Greeks called it
Vlacherni....
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When speaking about nations populated the old England,
Galfridus tells us ([9],p.6):
Normans, Britts, Saxs, Picts, Scots.
We spoke about Britts, Picts and Scots. Now - about Normans...
However, it is possible,
that Normans are simply one more variant for the name Romans. If
so, they are Romans - Romei, the people who lived in Roman
(Byzantine) empire...
Now - about Saxs (Saxons). "Saxs (Saxons) - German nation
lived in northern Europe,...but in some cases speaks about Angls (Angels)"
([9],pp.229-230). Let us compare with Byzantine history. It is
well-known that Germans took part in crusades. Consequently,
Saxons (Saxs) and Angls (Angels) were among the nations which
invaded into Byzantine empire in 10-12 centuries....
ЗА ЕТИМОЛОГИЈАТА ИМА И НАШИ АВТОРИ...
Galfridus tells us ([9],p.6):
Normans, Britts, Saxs, Picts, Scots.
We spoke about Britts, Picts and Scots. Now - about Normans...
However, it is possible,
that Normans are simply one more variant for the name Romans. If
so, they are Romans - Romei, the people who lived in Roman
(Byzantine) empire...
Now - about Saxs (Saxons). "Saxs (Saxons) - German nation
lived in northern Europe,...but in some cases speaks about Angls (Angels)"
([9],pp.229-230). Let us compare with Byzantine history. It is
well-known that Germans took part in crusades. Consequently,
Saxons (Saxs) and Angls (Angels) were among the nations which
invaded into Byzantine empire in 10-12 centuries....
ЗА ЕТИМОЛОГИЈАТА ИМА И НАШИ АВТОРИ...
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Да не отворам нова тема, ќе пишивам овде за Келтите. Всушност врзано е со темава.
Јасно ни е на сите дека Келтите биле сојузници на Македонците. Па да видиме дали преку нив имаме некакви докази за нас.
Во светот кружат податоци дека од историјата незадоволни се Келтите и Словените.
Па еве на наша среќа отпочнува процес на барање на врските.
Direct Object Double Marking in Celtic and South Slavic Languages –
Preliminary Remarks ……………………………………….……………….….119
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Dr Elena Parina examines pronoun reprise in Celtic (Middle and Modern Welsh, Middle Irish) and Southern Slavic languages (Bulgarian and Macedonian)
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The Third International Colloquium of the Learned Society
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18-19 September 2008
[SIZE=+1]Dubrovnik [/SIZE]Croatia
Сега да прејдам на некои нитерсни податоци. Англичаните викаат дека во Илиада се запишани келтските митови. Сега еве гледаме дека тие се слични со Словенските, а некој ги препишал и присвоил.
Артефактите и симболите се прилично слични. Впрочем не за џабе и биле сојузници. Никој не вели дека се еден ист народ, туку имаат близок корен.
Veteris (commonly spelled Vitiris, Vheteris, Huetiris, and Hueteris) was a Celtic god attested from many inscriptions in Roman Britain.
Veteris may possibly be related to the Proto-Celtic root *weto- meaning 'air'
За ВЕТЕР не треба повеќе да се објаснува.
The Celtic god of light and healing, "Bel" means shining one, can be compared with the continental Apollo
Belenus is the Gaulish/Celtic god of light, and referred to as 'The Shining One'. His cult spread from northern Italy to southern Gaul and Britain.
in Irish Gaelic, the name "bile" translates to "sacred tree." Наша Билјана - БИЛКА
Зошто Македонците викаат БРАН и од каде, а сите други ТАЛАС
On their journey, Bran encountered his half-brother, Manawyddan, God of the Sea, and eventually reached the land of Women. Here the goddess greeted him and they spent a whole year together happy and fulfilled. Eventually though, some of Bran's men wished to return home, but the goddess warned them that if they were to step foot on the British Isles, they would crumble to dust for, in reality, many centuries had passed since they had left home. Bran, however, ignored her warning and returned home. On reaching the shore, however, the first man to step ashore found the goddess' warning to be true, and his fellow mariners were forced to sail the seas for evermore.
Значи оној кој е проколнат да плови по морето засекогаш е БРАН, јазикот ни е митолошки :smir:
Има уште .....
Јасно ни е на сите дека Келтите биле сојузници на Македонците. Па да видиме дали преку нив имаме некакви докази за нас.
Во светот кружат податоци дека од историјата незадоволни се Келтите и Словените.
Па еве на наша среќа отпочнува процес на барање на врските.
Direct Object Double Marking in Celtic and South Slavic Languages –
Preliminary Remarks ……………………………………….……………….….119
Elena Parina
Dr Elena Parina examines pronoun reprise in Celtic (Middle and Modern Welsh, Middle Irish) and Southern Slavic languages (Bulgarian and Macedonian)
http://www.celto-slavica.celtologica.com/index.htm
The Third International Colloquium of the Learned Society
Societas Celto-Slavica
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Сега да прејдам на некои нитерсни податоци. Англичаните викаат дека во Илиада се запишани келтските митови. Сега еве гледаме дека тие се слични со Словенските, а некој ги препишал и присвоил.
Артефактите и симболите се прилично слични. Впрочем не за џабе и биле сојузници. Никој не вели дека се еден ист народ, туку имаат близок корен.
Veteris (commonly spelled Vitiris, Vheteris, Huetiris, and Hueteris) was a Celtic god attested from many inscriptions in Roman Britain.
Veteris may possibly be related to the Proto-Celtic root *weto- meaning 'air'
За ВЕТЕР не треба повеќе да се објаснува.
The Celtic god of light and healing, "Bel" means shining one, can be compared with the continental Apollo
Belenus is the Gaulish/Celtic god of light, and referred to as 'The Shining One'. His cult spread from northern Italy to southern Gaul and Britain.
in Irish Gaelic, the name "bile" translates to "sacred tree." Наша Билјана - БИЛКА
Зошто Македонците викаат БРАН и од каде, а сите други ТАЛАС
On their journey, Bran encountered his half-brother, Manawyddan, God of the Sea, and eventually reached the land of Women. Here the goddess greeted him and they spent a whole year together happy and fulfilled. Eventually though, some of Bran's men wished to return home, but the goddess warned them that if they were to step foot on the British Isles, they would crumble to dust for, in reality, many centuries had passed since they had left home. Bran, however, ignored her warning and returned home. On reaching the shore, however, the first man to step ashore found the goddess' warning to be true, and his fellow mariners were forced to sail the seas for evermore.
Значи оној кој е проколнат да плови по морето засекогаш е БРАН, јазикот ни е митолошки :smir:
Има уште .....
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The aim of the conference is to bring together experts in Slavic and Celtic linguistics, literature and philology, and to explore parallels between Slavic and Celtic languages, literatures and folklore traditions. Topics of the papers to be presented at the conference will cover all aspects of Celtic studies, as well as Slavic linguistics and philology inasmuch as they are relevant to Celtic matters. It is envisaged that the conference will primarily focus on historic and prehistoric contacts between Slavic and Celtic languages and cultures and those exploring typological parallels between Celtic and Slavic. Given that the conference is taking place in Croatia, the contributions that will focus on Central and Southeastern Europe are especially welcome.
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Gwenn
The Celtic goddess of motherhood.
GWENNa - ЖЕНА
from an Indo-European root *gwena (woman) via Old English cwјn (woman, wife, queen). Cf. Old Norse kvenna (woman), Gothic qens (wife), Greek gynē (woman), Russian zhena, Sanskrit jani.
Llyr
The Welsh sea god. Llyr (Lir Llyr) is the father of Branhttp://www.pantheon.org/articles/m/manawydan.html. He is equal to the Irish god Lir.
Знаеме дека Илирите се луге од крајбрежјето, сигурно и нивното име ќе е врзано со морето. ЛИР - ИЛИР, нема слободни луге, птици, кучиња, планини...
Многу е читко. ЛИР е богот на морето, татко на БРАН (кои вечно лута низ морето)
The Celtic goddess of motherhood.
GWENNa - ЖЕНА
from an Indo-European root *gwena (woman) via Old English cwјn (woman, wife, queen). Cf. Old Norse kvenna (woman), Gothic qens (wife), Greek gynē (woman), Russian zhena, Sanskrit jani.
Llyr
The Welsh sea god. Llyr (Lir Llyr) is the father of Branhttp://www.pantheon.org/articles/m/manawydan.html. He is equal to the Irish god Lir.
Знаеме дека Илирите се луге од крајбрежјето, сигурно и нивното име ќе е врзано со морето. ЛИР - ИЛИР, нема слободни луге, птици, кучиња, планини...
Многу е читко. ЛИР е богот на морето, татко на БРАН (кои вечно лута низ морето)
Dali go imate videno ova:
Krov i krava bile Keltski zborovi:
PSl. *karwā 'cow' (OCS krava, Russ. koróva, Cr. krȁva) < Proto-Celtic *kerawā, which would in turn be a regular Celtic Centum reflex of PIE *ḱerh₂weh₂[18] with regular Celtic *era > *ara assimilation. Morover, Lithuanian kárvė, whose accentuation matches with that of Slavic etymons, points to prehistorical Balto-Slavic borrowing.
PSl. *krawu 'roof' (OCS krov') can be traced to Germanic etymons of the same meaning (OE hrōf, ON hróf etc.) only if Celtic mediation is assumed, from dialectal PIE *kropo- > Proto-Celtic *krowo-
Krov i krava bile Keltski zborovi:
PSl. *karwā 'cow' (OCS krava, Russ. koróva, Cr. krȁva) < Proto-Celtic *kerawā, which would in turn be a regular Celtic Centum reflex of PIE *ḱerh₂weh₂[18] with regular Celtic *era > *ara assimilation. Morover, Lithuanian kárvė, whose accentuation matches with that of Slavic etymons, points to prehistorical Balto-Slavic borrowing.
PSl. *krawu 'roof' (OCS krov') can be traced to Germanic etymons of the same meaning (OE hrōf, ON hróf etc.) only if Celtic mediation is assumed, from dialectal PIE *kropo- > Proto-Celtic *krowo-
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Секоја врска во однос на јазиците води потекло далеку пред оформување на индоевропските јазици.Индоевропските јазици имаат влијание од Старите европски јазици кој што опстојувале пред населувањето на Европа во мезолитот.Тоа е јазик на палеолитските жители на Европа.Ако се прави просторна реконструкција на овие палеолитски народи се доаѓа до сознание дека тие биле во палеолитот одделени заради физичка бариера ледник која постоела меѓу Стара Европа(Балканскиот поуостров) и Францускиот и Шпанскиот регион.Популацијата од Францускиот и Шпанскиот регион ги населила Ирска и Британија во екот на затоплувањето после леденото време.
Од Стара Европа -балканот доаѓа до две населувања во правец на север према Балтикот (И од ова населување се пронајдени темелите на големи бараки низ Германија пред неколку години ) и во правец на Украина Триполје-Кукутени културата.
Мезолитските доселеници од степите ја заплискуваат Европа во два правци.Едниот правец ги води преку Балтикот пробиваат во Германија се до Шпанија и ги потиснуваат во Ирска и Британија палеолитските жители,но не со чисто степска култура затоа што веќе доаѓа до симбиоза во додирот со палеобалканците кој се населувале кон Балтикот.Од ова произлегуваат смесите на Западно европските народи.Другата група се спушта во правец на Украина каде што доаѓа од една страна до контакт со палео балканските Кукутени-Триполје култури и оваа мешавина ги формира денешните Руси и дел од Украинците,а од друга со Индо-иранските групи од Јамна културната група.
Значи ако се гледаат сличностите во однос на Британските острови и Балканот -тие сличности треба да немаат никаква врска со јазиците на индоиранската група и посебно санскритот.
Од Стара Европа -балканот доаѓа до две населувања во правец на север према Балтикот (И од ова населување се пронајдени темелите на големи бараки низ Германија пред неколку години ) и во правец на Украина Триполје-Кукутени културата.
Мезолитските доселеници од степите ја заплискуваат Европа во два правци.Едниот правец ги води преку Балтикот пробиваат во Германија се до Шпанија и ги потиснуваат во Ирска и Британија палеолитските жители,но не со чисто степска култура затоа што веќе доаѓа до симбиоза во додирот со палеобалканците кој се населувале кон Балтикот.Од ова произлегуваат смесите на Западно европските народи.Другата група се спушта во правец на Украина каде што доаѓа од една страна до контакт со палео балканските Кукутени-Триполје култури и оваа мешавина ги формира денешните Руси и дел од Украинците,а од друга со Индо-иранските групи од Јамна културната група.
Значи ако се гледаат сличностите во однос на Британските острови и Балканот -тие сличности треба да немаат никаква врска со јазиците на индоиранската група и посебно санскритот.
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Rigel Kent
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