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A Dictionary of Celtic Mythology | 2004 | JAMES MacKILLOP
Nemedians. Mythical early invaders of Ireland according to the pseudo-history Lebor Gabála [Book of Invasions], named for the eponymous founder Nemed. They came third in succession after (1) Cesair and (2) the Partholonians, who preceded them by thirty years. Contemporary with the predatory Fomorians, arbitrarily cited here as the fourth invaders, the Nemedians preceded the Fir Bolg by eleven generations. Departing from Scythia in thirty-four ships, all but one lost when the party greedily pursued a tower of gold seen on the sea, the Nemedians wandered the world for a year and a half before landing in Ireland at a site and time not made specific. Least remarkable and romanticized of the Lebor Gabála invaders, the Nemedians built two royal fortresses (in Armagh and Antrim), cleared twelve plains, and formed four lakes. The chief druid of the Nemedians, Mide, the eponym of Meath, lit the first fire at Uisnech, which blazed for seven years and lit every chief's hearth in Ireland. Their singular distinction was in battling the hated Fomorians, three times successfully under Nemed's leadership and once catastrophically at Cnámross (to be distinguished from a Fenian battle at the same site). Subjugated by the Fomorians, the Nemedians were forced to pay a humiliating annual tribute at Mag Cétne each Samain. They sought vengeance by storming the Fomorian tower Tor Conaind on the heavily defended Tory Island (off Donegal). The Nemedian hero Fergus Lethderg killed the Fomorian champion Conand, but the Nemedians were slaughtered, only thirty surviving to be scattered about the world. Fergus Lethderg went north to Scotland; his son Britán Máel lived there until the arrival of the Picts, giving his name to the British and the island of Britain. Iarbonél migrated even further across northern Europe; his son Béothach founded a family which returned to Ireland, eleven generations later, as the Tuatha Dé Danann. The grandson of Nemed's son Starn, Semion led descendants known as Fir Bolg in ‘Greece’.
Greece vo ~2400 bc NE POSTOELO,NITU GRCI....
Other notable Nemedians include Anind, the son of Nemed whose grave flooded Lough Ennell near Dún na Sciath, Co. Westmeath; Fergna, the fourth physician in Ireland; and Figma, the chief poet and historian.
A few commentators see faint echoes of actual Irish history in the Nemed, as they do not in the invasions of Cesair and the Partholonians. T. F. O'Rahilly's influential but still controversial Early Irish History and Mythology (Dublin, 1946) identified the Nemedians with the Érainn, a P-Celtic people.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O70-Nemedians.html
note:
primer:vo drevnite mitovi,ovie luge emigrirale vo Irska,no poradi cuma,se vratile nazad....
neznaeme kako i zosto,no vo Irska ostanal spomenot za niv...
ovie luge se povrzani so Nea Nikomedea (Egejska Makedonija) ,a spored drugi avtori i so Skitija.....
samoto ime Nemedian/Nikomedea...i Herkul/Herakle se tepase so Nemejskiot Lav....
Od Herakle e Temen,od nego Karan,pa Perdika....
p.s.godinata ~2400 bc e proizvolna,nastanite bile mnogu prethodno,no nema so sto da se sporedi,...
zosto 2400 bc?
zatoa sto togas imalo golema prirodna katastrofa/zemjotres vo sredozemjeto,pa da receme deka nekoi "pobegnale"....
p.s...
vo Irska,ovie luge se poznati kako Fir Bolg (Bolg-Goddess of Lightning).
Spored nekoi,etimologiite se:
Belgae tribe, whose name meant the "shining ones" (from Proto-Celtic *belo,:nesvest: meaning "bright"). In Early Irish, "boillsg" meant gleam:nesvest
dblesok; from Proto-Celtic *bolg-s-cio-; related to Latin "fulgeo", shine, English "effulgent", Lithuanian "blizgù" and even Russian "byela" (white). Other sources derived from the earliest Irish monastic texts claim they were the "people of Bolg" the word Fir (PIR(oman)=OGAN,SVETLO,SONCE), in this case, having no specific gender inflection. Essentially Bolg was the Neolithic:nesvest: Zeus, circe 4000-3200 BC.
BOLG=BOG=ZEUS
p.s...
inaku,vo Nea Nikomedea,e utvrdena i najstarata Balkanska (vo ovoj del,bez Trakija) haplogrupa V13.....
vo Britanija (Irska) se cudat od kade im e V13....
mislat deka e od rimjanite.....
ama,rimskite legii,nareceni Macedonia,koi bile popolnuvani so luge odovde,nikogas ne bile vo Britanija....
interesno....
p.s..
interesno e toa sto , materijalnite naodi od Nea Nikomedea , potvrduvaat deka tamu bila prisutna Matrijahalnata kultura.
Vo isto vreme,vo Irska,za razlika od site tamosni nivni sosedi i cela zapadna EU i Skandinavja,isto taka bila prisutna Matrijahalnata kultura,a kaj site drugi Patrijarhalnata....
Matrijarhalnata=Golemata Majka.....
interesno....
Nemed and his wife Macha....
Macha bila pogrebana vo zemjata (mestoto) Emain Macha....
poveke za Irskite mitovi...
p.s...
inaku,Ircite imaat mit,deka pred Nemid,si imale drug Kral,Milesians...Mile?...
toj mit,deka Mile bil od Spanija,genetski e potvrden....
ostanuva uste mitot za Nemid,koj spored V13 e veke potvrden....
p.s
sekako,mnogumina ke pomislat,ajde be.....
togash,ajde be....
site se falevme koga bese objaveno deka imame dobra zastapenost od haplogrupata I2a2,onaa hercegovskata....
koja za cudo na naucnicite,evouirala na BALKANOT,a hercegovcite se skoro ~75% od nea...cao Slavsi....
taka,spored denesniot svetski avtoritet vo genetski presmetki,Ken Nordtvedt,...Dinaric founder was probably in Balkans or Danube basin Isles migrated to British Isles and eventually Ireland.....
e sega,eventually,probably....
ima i drugi koi vrsat geneoloski i genetski istrazuvanja i sporedbi....
spored ovoj link kade sto se sobiraat data bazi za geni i geneologii,ima najmalku 200 irski preziminja koi se I2a2.....
koj znae Irski preziminja,moze da si proveri....
Tie sto se po tie raboti,si proverile,i si sozdavaat geneoloski istorii.....
Spored History tells us that there were two main Celtic groups, one of which is referred to as the 'lowland Celts' who hailed from the region of the Danube. These people left their native pastures around 1200 B. C. and slowly made their way across Europe, founding the lake dwellings in Switzerland, the Danube valley and Ireland. They were skilled in the use of metals and worked in gold, tin and bronze....
The second group, often referred to as the 'true' Celts, followed closely behind their lowland cousins, making their first appearance on the left bank of the Rhine at the commencement of the sixth century B. C. These people, who came from the mountainous regions of the Balkans and Carpathians,.....
Sekako,ova tamu se tvrdi so DNK istragi.....posebno interesna e I2a2
inaku,The Book of the Invasions of Ireland tells of a number of invasions or immigrations,
M. d'Arbois de Jubainville sees seven mythological immigrations:
Partholan to Ireland
Nemed to Ireland
The Firbolg to Ireland
The Tuatha de Danaan to Ireland
Mile, son of Bile, to Spain
The sons of Mile from Spain to Ireland
The Picts from Thracia to Ireland and from Ireland to Britain
Mile be....rekov jas,Mile....
gledame i Danan.....Tuatha=Teuta=people,luge....
Teuta nemoze da bide shqiptarka,tamu na Kosovo ovoj gen e minoren,mislam deka i Gupcite se pogolemi I2a2 Iliri od shqiptarite....
kniga za irskata mitologija...
p.s....
dali e Mile nash?
Genetski,toj e od Spanija,no treba da se vidi i poveke...kaj nas....
Mile e zasnovan na teorijata deka pominal PESHKI preku Gibraltarot,koj bil SUVO....
Takvo nesto mozelo da bide vozmozno samo mnogu odamna...da receme,i pred postoenjeto na nasiot neolitski Slave.....
Borza,onoj so koj se falime,partal go napravi Hammond (gejskiot idol) po prasanjeto civilizacii vo Makedonija (poplaveni,nepoplaveni od Sredozemnoto More)....
znaci,Mile e mnogu somnitelen kako stignal vo Spanija.....
Ako nemozel po voda,togas po kopno....niz,OD Balkanov....
Mile e somnitelen i po drug osnov....
Toj bil sin na Mil,a se ozenil so Scota,koja bila kerka na Nectanebo I ili Nectanebo II i nelogicno e Neolitski maz da zeme Anticka zhena....
no,mit e mit....
taa zhenata,po se izgleda se znaela so Makedoncite,Filip II i Ace III
Ace znaeme,mu go osvoi carstvoto na faraonot....interesna e ulogata na Filip II pred toa....
A Dictionary of Celtic Mythology | 2004 | JAMES MacKILLOP
Nemedians. Mythical early invaders of Ireland according to the pseudo-history Lebor Gabála [Book of Invasions], named for the eponymous founder Nemed. They came third in succession after (1) Cesair and (2) the Partholonians, who preceded them by thirty years. Contemporary with the predatory Fomorians, arbitrarily cited here as the fourth invaders, the Nemedians preceded the Fir Bolg by eleven generations. Departing from Scythia in thirty-four ships, all but one lost when the party greedily pursued a tower of gold seen on the sea, the Nemedians wandered the world for a year and a half before landing in Ireland at a site and time not made specific. Least remarkable and romanticized of the Lebor Gabála invaders, the Nemedians built two royal fortresses (in Armagh and Antrim), cleared twelve plains, and formed four lakes. The chief druid of the Nemedians, Mide, the eponym of Meath, lit the first fire at Uisnech, which blazed for seven years and lit every chief's hearth in Ireland. Their singular distinction was in battling the hated Fomorians, three times successfully under Nemed's leadership and once catastrophically at Cnámross (to be distinguished from a Fenian battle at the same site). Subjugated by the Fomorians, the Nemedians were forced to pay a humiliating annual tribute at Mag Cétne each Samain. They sought vengeance by storming the Fomorian tower Tor Conaind on the heavily defended Tory Island (off Donegal). The Nemedian hero Fergus Lethderg killed the Fomorian champion Conand, but the Nemedians were slaughtered, only thirty surviving to be scattered about the world. Fergus Lethderg went north to Scotland; his son Britán Máel lived there until the arrival of the Picts, giving his name to the British and the island of Britain. Iarbonél migrated even further across northern Europe; his son Béothach founded a family which returned to Ireland, eleven generations later, as the Tuatha Dé Danann. The grandson of Nemed's son Starn, Semion led descendants known as Fir Bolg in ‘Greece’.
Greece vo ~2400 bc NE POSTOELO,NITU GRCI....
Other notable Nemedians include Anind, the son of Nemed whose grave flooded Lough Ennell near Dún na Sciath, Co. Westmeath; Fergna, the fourth physician in Ireland; and Figma, the chief poet and historian.
A few commentators see faint echoes of actual Irish history in the Nemed, as they do not in the invasions of Cesair and the Partholonians. T. F. O'Rahilly's influential but still controversial Early Irish History and Mythology (Dublin, 1946) identified the Nemedians with the Érainn, a P-Celtic people.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O70-Nemedians.html
note:
primer:vo drevnite mitovi,ovie luge emigrirale vo Irska,no poradi cuma,se vratile nazad....
neznaeme kako i zosto,no vo Irska ostanal spomenot za niv...
ovie luge se povrzani so Nea Nikomedea (Egejska Makedonija) ,a spored drugi avtori i so Skitija.....
samoto ime Nemedian/Nikomedea...i Herkul/Herakle se tepase so Nemejskiot Lav....
Od Herakle e Temen,od nego Karan,pa Perdika....
p.s.godinata ~2400 bc e proizvolna,nastanite bile mnogu prethodno,no nema so sto da se sporedi,...
zosto 2400 bc?
zatoa sto togas imalo golema prirodna katastrofa/zemjotres vo sredozemjeto,pa da receme deka nekoi "pobegnale"....
p.s...
vo Irska,ovie luge se poznati kako Fir Bolg (Bolg-Goddess of Lightning).
Spored nekoi,etimologiite se:
Belgae tribe, whose name meant the "shining ones" (from Proto-Celtic *belo,:nesvest: meaning "bright"). In Early Irish, "boillsg" meant gleam:nesvest
dblesok; from Proto-Celtic *bolg-s-cio-; related to Latin "fulgeo", shine, English "effulgent", Lithuanian "blizgù" and even Russian "byela" (white). Other sources derived from the earliest Irish monastic texts claim they were the "people of Bolg" the word Fir (PIR(oman)=OGAN,SVETLO,SONCE), in this case, having no specific gender inflection. Essentially Bolg was the Neolithic:nesvest: Zeus, circe 4000-3200 BC.BOLG=BOG=ZEUS
p.s...
inaku,vo Nea Nikomedea,e utvrdena i najstarata Balkanska (vo ovoj del,bez Trakija) haplogrupa V13.....
vo Britanija (Irska) se cudat od kade im e V13....
mislat deka e od rimjanite.....
ama,rimskite legii,nareceni Macedonia,koi bile popolnuvani so luge odovde,nikogas ne bile vo Britanija....
interesno....
p.s..
interesno e toa sto , materijalnite naodi od Nea Nikomedea , potvrduvaat deka tamu bila prisutna Matrijahalnata kultura.
Vo isto vreme,vo Irska,za razlika od site tamosni nivni sosedi i cela zapadna EU i Skandinavja,isto taka bila prisutna Matrijahalnata kultura,a kaj site drugi Patrijarhalnata....
Matrijarhalnata=Golemata Majka.....
interesno....
Nemed and his wife Macha....
Macha bila pogrebana vo zemjata (mestoto) Emain Macha....
poveke za Irskite mitovi...
p.s...
inaku,Ircite imaat mit,deka pred Nemid,si imale drug Kral,Milesians...Mile?...
toj mit,deka Mile bil od Spanija,genetski e potvrden....
ostanuva uste mitot za Nemid,koj spored V13 e veke potvrden....
p.s
sekako,mnogumina ke pomislat,ajde be.....
togash,ajde be....
site se falevme koga bese objaveno deka imame dobra zastapenost od haplogrupata I2a2,onaa hercegovskata....
koja za cudo na naucnicite,evouirala na BALKANOT,a hercegovcite se skoro ~75% od nea...cao Slavsi....
taka,spored denesniot svetski avtoritet vo genetski presmetki,Ken Nordtvedt,...Dinaric founder was probably in Balkans or Danube basin Isles migrated to British Isles and eventually Ireland.....
e sega,eventually,probably....
ima i drugi koi vrsat geneoloski i genetski istrazuvanja i sporedbi....
spored ovoj link kade sto se sobiraat data bazi za geni i geneologii,ima najmalku 200 irski preziminja koi se I2a2.....
koj znae Irski preziminja,moze da si proveri....
Tie sto se po tie raboti,si proverile,i si sozdavaat geneoloski istorii.....
Spored History tells us that there were two main Celtic groups, one of which is referred to as the 'lowland Celts' who hailed from the region of the Danube. These people left their native pastures around 1200 B. C. and slowly made their way across Europe, founding the lake dwellings in Switzerland, the Danube valley and Ireland. They were skilled in the use of metals and worked in gold, tin and bronze....
The second group, often referred to as the 'true' Celts, followed closely behind their lowland cousins, making their first appearance on the left bank of the Rhine at the commencement of the sixth century B. C. These people, who came from the mountainous regions of the Balkans and Carpathians,.....
Sekako,ova tamu se tvrdi so DNK istragi.....posebno interesna e I2a2
inaku,The Book of the Invasions of Ireland tells of a number of invasions or immigrations,
M. d'Arbois de Jubainville sees seven mythological immigrations:
Partholan to Ireland
Nemed to Ireland
The Firbolg to Ireland
The Tuatha de Danaan to Ireland
Mile, son of Bile, to Spain
The sons of Mile from Spain to Ireland
The Picts from Thracia to Ireland and from Ireland to Britain
Mile be....rekov jas,Mile....
gledame i Danan.....Tuatha=Teuta=people,luge....
Teuta nemoze da bide shqiptarka,tamu na Kosovo ovoj gen e minoren,mislam deka i Gupcite se pogolemi I2a2 Iliri od shqiptarite....
kniga za irskata mitologija...
p.s....
dali e Mile nash?
Genetski,toj e od Spanija,no treba da se vidi i poveke...kaj nas....
Mile e zasnovan na teorijata deka pominal PESHKI preku Gibraltarot,koj bil SUVO....
Takvo nesto mozelo da bide vozmozno samo mnogu odamna...da receme,i pred postoenjeto na nasiot neolitski Slave.....
Borza,onoj so koj se falime,partal go napravi Hammond (gejskiot idol) po prasanjeto civilizacii vo Makedonija (poplaveni,nepoplaveni od Sredozemnoto More)....
znaci,Mile e mnogu somnitelen kako stignal vo Spanija.....
Ako nemozel po voda,togas po kopno....niz,OD Balkanov....
Mile e somnitelen i po drug osnov....
Toj bil sin na Mil,a se ozenil so Scota,koja bila kerka na Nectanebo I ili Nectanebo II i nelogicno e Neolitski maz da zeme Anticka zhena....
no,mit e mit....
taa zhenata,po se izgleda se znaela so Makedoncite,Filip II i Ace III
Ace znaeme,mu go osvoi carstvoto na faraonot....interesna e ulogata na Filip II pred toa....
