Падна малезиски авион во Украина.

[The xx]

UA Security council speaker stated that "we never accused Russia of destroying MH17 cause we don't have enough proof. Whatever we said was just one of the possibilities."

 

[ZOTE]

Полека, полека си ја кажваат намерата и која им е крајната цел, што би се народски кажало, си ги покажуваат роговите.


Obama Calls For Collectivized New World Order
"People are anxious.... the old order isn’t holding"

During a fundraiser in Seattle this week, President Barack Obama called for a “new order” based around a collectivized system in order to quell people’s concerns about geopolitical strife and the economy.

“People are anxious. Now, some of that has to do with some big challenges overseas,” said Obama, adding, “But whether people see what’s happening in Ukraine, and Russia’s aggression towards its neighbors in the manner in which it’s financing and arming separatists; to what’s happened in Syria … to the failure in Iraq for Sunni and Shia and Kurd to compromise … to what’s happening in Israel and Gaza….”

“Part of people’s concern is just the sense that around the world the old order isn’t holding and we’re not quite yet to where we need to be in terms of a new order that’s based on a different set of principles, that’s based on a sense of common humanity, that’s based on economies that work for all people. … But here in the United States, what people are also concerned about is the fact that although the economy has done well in the aggregate, for the average person it feels as if incomes, wages just haven’t gone up; that people, no matter how hard they work, they feel stuck.”

http://cdn.laola1.tv/ehf/eurou20/ehfeurotraun.html

 

[Bratot]

UA Security council speaker stated that "we never accused Russia of destroying MH17 cause we don't have enough proof. Whatever we said was just one of the possibilities."

...and repeatedly we have mentioned particularly only that one of all the other possibilities.

 

[bitushanec]

Има ли нови информации за малезиоскиот авион?

 

[Vanlok]

Black box findings consistent with missile blast
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysia-airlines-flight-17-black-box-findings-consistent-with-blast/


Трупот на авионот бил погоден од мноштво мали проектили (најверојатно шрапнели) и настапила „масивна експлозивна декомпресија„.[DOUBLEPOST=1406423618][/DOUBLEPOST]Некои моменти кои (мислам дека) не беа спомнати до сега:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Air-India-flight-was-90-seconds-away-when-missile-struck-Malaysia-Airlines-Flight-MH17/articleshow/38702536.cms

An Air India Dreamliner flight going from Delhi to Birmingham was in fact less than 25km away from the Malaysian aircraft, a distance covered by a Dreamliner or Boeing 777 in about 90 seconds, when the latter was hit. Because of this closeness, the Dnipropetrovsk (local Ukrainian) air traffic controller asked the AI pilots to try and establish contact with pilots of the Malaysian aircraft who had stopped responding to its calls.

Minutes before the crash caused by a missile strike, the AI pilots had also heard the controller give the Malaysian aircraft MH17 what is called "a direct routing". This permits an aircraft to fly straight, instead of tracking the regular route which is generally a zig-zag track that goes from one ground-based navigation aid or way point to another. "Direct routing saves fuel and time and is preferred by pilots. In this case, it proved fatal," said an airline source.




http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/indian-plane-tried-to-contact-downed-malaysia-mh17-report-561819

The Times of India said Ukrainian air traffic controllers had asked the Air India pilots to try and establish contact with the Malaysia Airlines jet, which had stopped responding to its calls.
The Air India plane, which was flying from Delhi to Birmingham and was less than 25 kilometres (15.5 miles) from Malaysia MH17, received no response, according to the paper.

"The AI Dreamliner was less than 25km from the Malaysian aircraft when the latter was hit by a missile," an unidentified airline source told the newspaper.

 

[Diogen]

Не знам дали некој претходно го постирал ова, ама наидов на интересен линк од сајтот на Alex Jones (човеков е интересен , заради напорите да ги разобличи банкарските структури на УСА, Билдерберг групата и.т.н.), овој пат за неговите информации во врска со соборениот авион:

http://www.infowars.com/whistleblower-u-s-satellite-images-show-ukrainian-troops-shooting-down-mh17/

Интересно е да се прочитаат и коментарите подоле на посетителите на овој сајт....
Да ја додадам и најновата сторија од овој сајт во врска со овој случај:

http://www.infowars.com/multiple-reports-ukrainian-fighter-jets-were-with-malaysian-flight-17-when-it-was-shot-down/

 

[Беркут]

Немецкиј сајт опубликовал признание летчика, стрелјавшего по «Боингу»
http://therussiantimes.com/news/11970.html
Wahrheit fuer Deutschland разместил у себја на сајте скандальнују статьју, в которој пилот украинского штурмовика Су-25 рассказывает, что произошло в небе над Донбассом в день крушенија мајлазијского «Боинга».

Текстот на германскиот весник:

Ukrainischer Pilot gibt Abschuss von MH17 zu
Letztendlich war der Druck doch zu groß. Der Pilot der ukrainischen Su-25, die in der Präsentation des russischen Generalstabs gezeigt wurde, gab gestern zu, das Flugzeug mit seiner Bordkanone flugunfähig geschossen zu haben. Übereinstimmend wurden dazu Fotos der abgestürzten Boing gezeigt, die klare Einschlaglöcher von Maschinengewehrkugeln enthielt, die übereinstimmend einen frontalen Winkel zeigten und kaum von einer Buk-Rakete herrühren konnten. Bei vielen Pro-Russland Schreiberlingen in den Foren und Kommentarspalten des Internets stießen diese Beichte auf Erleichterung. Ein kleiner Sieg für die Putinversteher, die bisher erfolglos versuchten das Internet mit ihren Fakten zu überschwemmen.

http://wahrheitfuerdeutschland.de/?p=3622

 

[gjoko-mkd]

Штом падна владата во Украина,има нешто.Не е само до меѓупартиската битка.Има тука нешто повеќе што не се сака да се извади на виделина

 

[Vanlok]

Падот на украинската влада е најмногу за да се распишат предвремени избори со кои ќе се извади комунистичката партија од парламентот (единствената поголема парламентарна партија што не е под директна контрола на САД).

Долгите седници на Радата им здосадија на кукларите, сакаат нов и поефикасен парламент. Требаат експресно брзи одлуки и одобрувања за фракинг на гас и за широко садење на профитабилни ГМО на сите распоживи житници во Украина.

 

[ZOTE]

Колку е ова вистин а не знам.


ХИТНО! Сателитски снимак испаљивања ракете са којом је украјинска војска оборила малезијски путнички авион (видео)

http://www.srbijadanas.net/hitno-satelitski-snimak-ispaljivanja-rakete-sa-kojom-je-ukrajinska-vojska-oborila-malezijski-putnicki-avion-video/

 

[Vanlok]

Старо, и фејк.

 

[ZOTE]

Старо, и фејк.

Не знам кој се овие, ама и они објавија.

Video shows Kolomoisky forces firing on MH17. These units are led by Israeli volunteers. Thus far, this is the “best evidence” though we are still going with wreckage until the US can offer its own suppressed satellite imagery.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/27/notes-on-mh17/

 

[Hip.Hop_MKD]

Проклета да си Америко! Сегде почнува војна веќе. Финтата за војна што потпалува САД насекаде е оваа:
-НА ЃУБРИЊАТА ЕКОНОМИЈАТА ИМ Е СР*ЊЕ, А ДЕКА СЕ ПРОИЗВОДИТЕЛИ НА ОРУЖЈЕ ИМ ОПАДНА ДОСТА ПРЕДХОДНИТЕ ГОДИНИ ПА СЕГА ПОТПАЛУВААТ ЗА ДА ШИТКААТ ОРУЖЈЕ, ТИЕ СЕ ВОЕНА ИНДУСТРИЈА!
Ништо посебна филизофија. Ама да даде Господ и на нивна почва покрваво да биде. Сега за авионот имаат снимки она, ова.. А оној што се "урна во морето"? Немаа?! Бегај, се е игра на големи сили.

Иначе еве доказ дека е Путин:

 

[Vanlok]

Не знам кој се овие, ама и они објавија.

Video shows Kolomoisky forces firing on MH17. These units are led by Israeli volunteers. Thus far, this is the “best evidence” though we are still going with wreckage until the US can offer its own suppressed satellite imagery.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/27/notes-on-mh17/

Ова го имаше ден два по соборувањето на боингот, тогаш украинците го објавија како доказ дека бунтовниците го срушиле авионот.
Може да го дрвиме дали белата површина доле е снег (стара снимка), или снимката е од инфраред спекатар (аха, доказ!)... ама реалноста е дека ова може да биде било што, било каде, снимано било кога. Како доказ во ниеден суд (па дури ни амерички) нема да помине.

 

[Bratot]

The Russian Ministry of Defense has declared the purported satellite photos placed on Twitter by the US Ambassador in Ukraine as fakes. I could tell that the images were fakes not only from their low resolution and absence of proper designation, but also from the unprofessional way in which the information was released.

Of course, many users of social media would have no experience and could easily fall for the hoax, which was clearly the US government’s intention.

“Part of the US propaganda mill’s effort is into forming the conversation. Once certain narratives take hold, true or untrue, they edge out other narratives. So the effort is to get control of the narrative, to form the conversation with whatever materials, usually false, are available. Then, of course, the false information will be referenced as true, and the direction of the narrative will be fixed. The narrative being lowered into place, for example, is that Russia was somehow responsible for the downing of Flight 17. With the help of the media, the hope is that the narrative will gain momentum. Eventually, if it catches properly, it will be impossible to question, just as people are considered freaks who question the official narrative of 9-11. That is why the narratives are introduced as quickly as possible. Thus, we saw how quickly it was announced that Flight 17 was brought down by a surface to air missile. That would lead me to believe that it was actually not brought down by a surface to air missile. So also with this incredibly amateurish effort regarding Russian shelling of Ukrainian positions. Russian reaction is never obtained in the articles about it, and it is no longer mentioned that Russian territory has been shelled by the Ukrainian military.”

И се’ е кажано со ова.