Потеклото на Власите

1: Anthropol Anz. 2000 Jun;58(2):171-6.Links
DNA-PCR systems TH01 and VWA31: population data from Albania and Romania.

Huckenbeck W, Schmidt HD, Scheil HG, Scheffrahn W.
Institute of Forensic Medicine, Heinrich-Heine-University Düsseldorf, Germany. HUCKENBECK@med.uni-duesseldorf.de
The microsatellite systems TH01 and VWA31 have been typed and analyzed for three populations from Albania (city population of Tirana, and Aromuns from a small-sized village, named Andon Poci, near Gjirokaster) and Romania (city population of Constanta). The genetic data have been compared with other, particularly South-Eastern European population.

2: Anthropol Anz. 2001 Sep;59(3):193-202.Links
Isonymy, consanguinity and repeated pairs of surnames in Aromun populations.

Schmidt HD, Efremovska L, Handziski Z.
Department of Anthropology, University of Ulm, Ulm, Germany. Horst.Schmidt@medizin.uni-ulm.de
The Aromuns represent a small and almost unknown people that live scattered over the Balkan Peninsula. Due to their language, that is very similar to classical Latin, they are in a special position. The Aromuns settled only in more recent times. Until now they lived as shepherds, as caravan guides and merchants and lead a semi-nomadic life. We are currently carrying out studies to determine the genetic structure of this population. To facilitate the interpretation of these data, we are also trying to obtain other important parameters that pertain to migration processes and the genealogical structure of this populations. The data arise from three areas in Albania, the Republic of Macedonia and Romania. The inbreeding coefficient and the proportion of repeated pairs of surnames was calculated through the use of genealogies and the isonymy method. The difference between these three populations are due primarily to confounding by selection of mates and family composition.
3: 1: Anthropol Anz. 2001 Sep;59(3):203-11.Links
Population genetic studies in the Balkans. I. Serum proteins.

Scheil HG, Scheffrahn W, Schmidt HD, Huckenbeck W, Efremovska L, Xirotiris N.
Institute for Human Genetics and Anthropology, Heinrich-Heine-University, Düsseldorf, Germany. SCHEIL@uni-düsseldorf.de
Within a study of the genetics of Southeastern European populations seven serum protein polymorphisms (AMY2, BF, C3, CP, GC, HPA, TF) were examined in three samples of Aromuns (Albania: the village of Andon Poci, province Gjirocaster, Republic of Macedonia: Stip region, Romania: the village Kogalniceanu, province Dobruja) and four reference samples (Albanians: Tirana, Romanians: Constanta and Ploiesti as well as Greeks (Northeastern Greece)). The Aromun samples from Albania and Romania form one separate cluster and the reference samples together with the Aromuns from Macedonia (Stip region) form a second one.

4: Anthropol Anz. 2001 Sep;59(3):213-25.Links
Population genetic studies in the Balkans. II. DNA-STR-systems.

Huckenbeck W, Scheil HG, Schmidt HD, Efremovska L, Xirotiris N.
Institute for Legal Medicine, Heinrich-Heine-University, Düsseldorf, Germany. HUCKENBECK@med.uni-duesseldorf.de
Within a study of the genetics of Southeastern European populations four DNA-STR-systems (D21S11, FGA, TH01, VWA) were examined in seven samples (samples of three Aromuns and four other Balkan populations). The results have been compared to data from four samples from literature (Austrians, Germans, Hungarians, Slovenians). The results show three clusters: a) the Aromuns from Albania (Andon Poci) and Macedonia (Stip region), b) the Romanian Aromuns (Kogalniceanu), Romanians (Constanta, Ploiesti) and Albanians (Tirana) und c) the data from literature. A sample of Northeastern Greece clearly differs from these three clusters. Including seven serum protein polymorphisms (without the populations from literature) results in two clusters: a) the three Aromun populations and b) Albanians and Romanians. Again the sample of Northeastern Greece clearly differs from these clusters.

5: Coll Antropol. 2003 Dec;27(2):501-6.Links
Genetic studies in south Balkan populations.

Schmidt HD, Scheil HG, Huckenbeck W, Scheffrahn W, Efremovska L.
Institute for Humangenetics and Anthropology, University of Ulm, Germany.
Within a study of the genetics of Balkan populations, four DNA-STR systems and 19 classical markers were examined in seven samples: Romanians (two groups), Albanians, Greeks and Aromuns (three groups). The results for the DNA-STR systems have been compared with data from the literature. The results show four clear separated groups: sub-Saharan black populations, North-African, Japanese and European populations. The large Balkan populations, except the Greek sample, are genetically more homogenous than the Aromun populations. A second Neighbor-joining tree based on all 23 analyzed systems, show a particular trend of the Aromun groups, which indicates a particular genetic structure.

6: Hum Biol. 2004 Dec;76(6):943-6.Links
Allele frequencies of D21S11, FGA, TH01, and VWA in populations of the Balkans.

Huckenbeck W, Scheil HG, Schmidt HD, Efremovska L, Mikerezi I.
Institute of Legal Medicine, Heinrich Heine University, PO Box 101007, D-40001 Düsseldorf, Germany.
This study is part of an extensive investigation of the genetic relationship between Balkan populations, especially the Aromuns. Allele frequencies of four STRs (D21S11, FGA, TH01, VWA) from Macedonians (Skopje), Gramostian Aromuns from the Stip region (Macedonia), Moskopolian Aromuns from Krusevo (Macedonia), and Musequiar Aromuns from Dukasi (Albania) are presented.

7: Anthropol Anz. 2004 Dec;62(4):429-34.Links
Phenotype and allele frequencies of some serum protein polymorphisms in populations of the Balkans.

Scheil HG, Schmidt HD, Efremovska L, Mikerezi I, Huckenbeck W.
Institute of Human Genetics and Anthropology, Heinrich-Heine-University, Düsseldorf, Germany. scheil@uni-duesseldorf.de
Within a study of the genetics of Southeastern European populations seven serum protein polymorphisms (AMY2, BF, C3, CP, GC, HPA, TF) were examined in two samples of Aromuns and one reference sample (Musequiar-Aromuns from Dukasi in Albania, Moskopolian-Aromuns from Krusevo, Republic of Macedonia, and Macedonians from Skopje). The neighbor joining tree as well as the principal component analysis show results which do not correspond well to the geographic and historic background. This indicates that in the present case the serum protein polymorphisms give no clearly defined information about the relationships between the Balkan populations and to the origin of Aromuns.

8: Ann Hum Genet. 2004 Mar;68(Pt 2):120-7. Links
Alu insertion polymorphisms in the Balkans and the origins of the Aromuns.

Comas D, Schmid H, Braeuer S, Flaiz C, Busquets A, Calafell F, Bertranpetit J, Scheil HG, Huckenbeck W, Efremovska L, Schmidt H.
Unitat de Biologia Evolutiva, Universitat Pompeu Fabra, Barcelona Department of Anthropology, University of Ulm, Germany. david.comas@upf.edu
We have analysed 11 human-specific Alu insertion polymorphisms in the Balkans to elucidate the origins of the Aromuns, a linguistic isolate inhabiting scattered areas in the Balkan Peninsula. Four Aromun samples (two from the Republic of Macedonia, one from Albania, and one from Romania) and five neighbouring populations (Macedonians, Albanians, Romanians, Greeks, and Turks) were analysed by means of genetic distances, principal components and analyses of the molecular variance (AMOVA). Three hypotheses were tested: Aromuns are Romanophonic Greeks; the result of a Romanian southward migration; or local descendants of the Thracians. The analyses show that the Aromuns do not constitute a homogeneous group separated from the rest of the Balkan populations. Grouping by language or geography does not explain the genetic differences observed in the region, suggesting a lack of genetic structure in the area. Aromuns do not seem to be particularly related to Greeks, Romanians, or to other Romance speakers. The Aromuns might have their origin to the south of the Danube river, with extensive gene flow with the neighbouring populations. The present results suggest a common ancestry of all Balkan populations, including Aromuns, with a lack of correlation between genetic differentiation and language or ethnicity, stressing that no major migration barriers have existed in the making of the complex Balkan human puzzle.

9: Anthropol Anz. 2005 Dec;63(4):393-9.Links
Dermatoglyphic studies in eastern and south-eastern Europe.

Scheil HG, Schmidt HD, Baltova S, Djordjevic D, Vulpe C, Siváková D, Efremovska L.
Institute of Human Genetics and Anthropology, Heinrich-Heine-University Düsseldorf, Germany.
In nine population samples from Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece, Hungary, Republic of Macedonia (Skopje and Aromuns from Stip region), Romania, Serbia and Slovakia 12 dermatoglyphic variables have been studied. There are distinct differences between the populations and between males and females. The Macedonian Aromuns are clearly separated from the other populations.

10: Ann Hum Genet. 2006 Jul;70(Pt 4):459-87. Links
Paternal and maternal lineages in the Balkans show a homogeneous landscape over linguistic barriers, except for the isolated Aromuns.

Bosch E, Calafell F, González-Neira A, Flaiz C, Mateu E, Scheil HG, Huckenbeck W, Efremovska L, Mikerezi I, Xirotiris N, Grasa C, Schmidt H, Comas D.
Unitat de Biologia Evolutiva, Universitat Pompeu Fabra, Barcelona, Spain.
The Balkan Peninsula is a complex cultural mosaic comprising populations speaking languages from several branches of the Indo-European family and Altaic, as well as culturally-defined minorities such as the Aromuns who speak a Romance language. The current cultural and linguistic landscape is a palimpsest in which different peoples have contributed their cultures in a historical succession. We have sought to find any evidence of genetic stratification related to those cultural layers by typing both mtDNA and Y chromosomes, in Albanians, Romanians, Macedonians, Greeks, and five Aromun populations. We have paid special attention to the Aromuns, and sought to test genetically various hypotheses on their origins. MtDNA and Y-chromosome haplogroup frequencies in the Balkans were found to be similar to those elsewhere in Europe. MtDNA sequences and Y-chromosome STR haplotypes revealed decreased variation in some Aromun populations. Variation within Aromun populations was the primary source of genetic differentiation. Y-chromosome haplotypes tended to be shared across Aromuns, but not across non-Aromun populations. These results point to a possible common origin of the Aromuns, with drift acting to differentiate the separate Aromun communities. The homogeneity of Balkan populations prevented testing for the origin of the Aromuns, although a significant Roman contribution can be ruled out.

11: Anthropol Anz. 2009 Mar;67(1):37-44.Links
Allele frequencies for twelve STR loci in two Bulgarian populations: Bulgarians and Karakachani.

Pereira J, Baltova S, Scheil HG, Schmidt HD, Huckenbeck W.
Institute of Legal Medicine, Heinrich-Heine-University Düsseldorf, Germany.
The allele frequencies of 12 STRs (D2S1338, D3S1358, D5S818, D8S1179, D16S539, D18S51, D19S433, D21S11, FGA, TH01, TPOX, VWA) from two Bulgarian population samples are presented: ethnic Bulgarians and Karakachani. The descent of Karakachani is not known. They are regarded as descendants of an older Balkan population, or that they may have nearer genetic relationships to the Aromuns. Using the allele frequencies of the 12 STR polymorphisms, the genetic relationships of Bulgarians and Karakachani to other Balkan populations have been studied. The results are compared with other population data, including two Aromun populations. While the Bulgarians show nearer relationships to other South Slavonian populations, there are no hints for nearer relationships between the Karakachani and other Balkan populations, especially the Aromuns. So, based on the 12 STRs, there is no indication for a closer relationship between Karakachani and Aromuns.

Paternal and maternal lineages in the Balkans show a homogeneous landscape over linguistic barriers, except for the isolated Aromuns.

http://www.upf.edu/bioevo/2006BioEvo/BE2006-Bosch-aromuns-AHG.pdf
 
Интересно , благодарам на информациите:smir:
 
оф топик!:) Кој јазик е најсличен со влашкиот...?
 
Diyan: Не мешај Романски со Аромански инаку во Добруџа се извршило размена на население .Романците и дел Ароманци се иселени од Бугарија и населени во Добруџа а Бугарите од Добруџа преселени во Бугарија.Тоа е како размената на население меѓу Грција и Турција.
 
Не меша, Адвизор. Не мисли дека само Ароманите се нарекувани Власи. Во Бугарија Власи се вика на Романците.
 
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Aromanska azbuka
 
Inscripţia de la Kaminia, Lemnos
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Z = Z, DZ, D; Ж = U; F = Beta


01 ΖΙΑΖΙ |
02 | ΜΑΡΑΖ | ΜΑF
03 ΣΙΑΛЖFΕΙΖ | ΑFΙΖ
04 ΕFΙΣΘΟ | ΖFΡΟΝΑΙΘ
05 ΕΟΛΑΙΕ Ζ | ΝΑΦΟΘ ΑΚΕΡ | ΤΑFΑΡΖΙΟ
06 ΖΙFΑΙ FΑΝΑΛΑΣΙΑΛ |
07 ΖΕΡΟΝΑΙΜΟΡΙΝΑΙΛ
08 ΖΙFΑΙ | ΑFΙΖ | ΣΙΑΛЖFΙΖ |
09 ΜΑΡΑΖΜ | ΑFΙΖ | ΑΟΜΑΙ ΡΟΜ |
10 ΕΑΡΑΛΙΟ | ΖΙFΑΙ | ΕΓI |
11 ΕΖΙΟ | ΑΡΑΙ | ΤΙΖ |
12 ΦΟΚΕ |
13 ΕΟΛΑΙΕΖI | ΦΟΚΙΑΣΙΑΛΕ |
14 ΖΕΡΟΖΑΙΘ |
15 ΕFΙΣΘΟ | ΤΟFΕΡΟΝΑ



01 DIAZI :
02 : MARAZ : MAV
03 SIALUVEIDZ : A VIDZ
04 E VISTO : DZ VRONAIT
05 YEOLAIE : DZ : NAFOT A CHER TA VAR DIO
06 DZ I VAI BANA LA SIAL :
07 DZ ERO NAI MORI NAI L
08 DZ I VAI : A VIDZ : SIALUVIDZ :
09 MARAZM : A VIDZ : AO M AI RO M :
10 YEARA LIO : DZ I VAI : E YI :
11 E DIO : ARAI : TIZ :
12 FOC E :
13 YEOLAIE DZ I : FOC YA SIAL E :
14 DZ ERO DZ AIT :
15 E VISTO : TO VERONA

01 DIONJI :
02 : MARAZI LAI :
03 LICUR : A VEDZ
04 E VIDZUTÂ : DZ MENÂ
05 YEOLAIE : DZ : NAFOT N-TSER : TA VÂR DIO
06 DZ I V-AI BANÂ LA SOARE :
07 DZ HERO NOI MOARTÂ NOI L
08 DZ I VAI : A VEDZ : LICUR :
09 MARAZM : A VEDZ : AO M AI ÂRO M :
10 YEARA LIO : DZ I VAI : E YI :
11 E DIO ARAI : TIN :
12 FOC E :
13 YEOLAIE DZ I : FOC YA SOARE E :
14 DZ ERO DZ AIT :
15 E VIDZUTÂ : TU MENÂ


01 Dionji!
02 Marazi lai!
03 Licur a vedz.
04 E vidzutâ, dzâ menâ.
05 Yeolaie! Dzâ, nafot n-tzer tâ vâr dio.
06 Dzâ, i vâ ai banâ la soarle.
07 Dzâ, hero, nu-ai moartâ, nu-ai lâ.
08 Dzâ, i vai a vedz licur.
09 Marazm a vedz, ao mâ ai âro, mâ.
10 Yara lio, dzâ, i vai e yi.
11 E, dio arai tin.
12 Foc e.
13 Yeolaie! Dzâ, i foc ya, soarle e.
14 Dzâ, ero, dzâ, ait.
15 E vidzutâ tu menâ.


01 Zei!
02 Marazm negru!
03 Lumina vei vedea,
04 E văzută, zi, cu adevărat.
05 Eolaie! Zi, înoţi în cer către alţi zei.
06 Zi, şi vei avea viaţă la soare.
07 Zi, eroule, n-ai murit, n-ai încă.
08 Zi, şi poate vei vedea lumina.
09 Marazm vei vedea. Aici doar ai rele doar.
10 Era leu, zi, şi poate e viu
11 Eh, zeu erai tu,
12 Foc e.
13 Eolaie! Zi, şi foc va fi, soare e.
14 Zi, eroule, zi, uliule,
15 E văzut cu adevărat.


The Lemnos Stele / The Lemnos Inscription
01 Gods!
02 Black grief!
03 Shine you will see.
04 It is seen, say, truly.
05 Yeolai! Say: I'm sailoring in the sky for some other gods.
06 Say, and you'll have a life at the sun.
07 Say, hero, you haven't died, haven't yet.
08 Say, and maybe you will see the shine.
09 Endless sorrow you will see. Here you have difficulties only.
10 He was a lion, say, and maybe he's alive.
11 Well, a god were you.
12 There is a fire.
13 Yeolai! Say, and sunny fire will be.
14 Say, hero, say, eagle.
15 It is seen for real.

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Тоа е јазикот што го зборуваат Arm'nite во Грција пред доаѓањето на Грците за да денес, додека на грчки битно се променети 3 пати.
Таа може да се забележи дека само 2 зборовите не се користи и денес во целиот armâneshte: SIALUVIDZ и SIAL.
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MAV зборови, NAFTU, cher, Marazul, ВЕРО, Лио, AIT и сега се во грчки со мали промени, што се кредити од граматиката текст е 100% сум се заклучи дека "Текстот е на Македонски односно на Пелазгите"

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Ова е ран Расенски(Етрурски запис). Етурците не прелетале од Мала Азија во Италија со ДЦ10.

Теоријава овојпат e преуредена оригинално од Романецот Николае Денсусиану пред едно стотина и кусур години и денес никој не ја зема за сериозно.
 
И Романците се големи фалсификатори, пред се оние кои пробуваат да ги скријат и негираат врските со славјанските им соседни народи.

Глумат дека се некоја заборавена Римска легија, дека се Латини, блабла, а всушност една голема шопска салата.
 
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Inelul de la Ezerovo / The Ezerovo Ring – Prevedeno na Aromanian-Macedonian od Branislav Ştefanoski al Dabija. Prevedeno od Aromanian-Macedonian na Romanian i English od Branislav Ştefanoski al Dabija i Andrei Pătru.

ΡΟΛΙΣΤΕΝΕΑΣΝΕΡΕΝΕΑΤΙΛΤΕΑΝΗΣΚΟΑΡΑΖΕΑΔΟΜΕΑΝΤΙΛΕΖΥΠΤΑΜΙΗΕΡΑΖΗΛΤΑ
ΡΟΛΙΣΤΕΝΕΑΣΝ/ΕΡΕΝΕΑΤΙΛ/ΤΕΑΝΗΣΚΟΑ/ΡΑΖΕΑΔΟΜ/ΕΑΝΤΙΛΕΖΥ/ΠΤΑΜΙΗΕ/ΡΑΖ/ΗΛΤΑ



Originalen tekst so Greek pismo:

ΡΟΛΙΣΤΕΝΕΑΣΝ
ΕΡΕΝΕΑΤΙΛ
ΤΕΑΝΗΣΚΟΑ
ΡΑΖΕΑΔΟΜ
ΕΑΝΤΙΛΕΖΥ
ΠΤΑΜΙΗΕ
ΡΑΖ
ΗΛΤΑ


ΡΟΛΙΣΤΕΝΕ ΑΣ Ν
Ε ΡΕ ΝΕΑΤΙΛ
ΤΕ ΑΝΗ Σ Κ ΟΑ
ΡΑΖΕ Α ΔΟΜ
Ε ΑΝ ΤΙ ΛΕΖΥ
Π Τ ΑΜ ΙΗΕ
ΡΑΖ
ΗΛΤΑ

Aromanian-Macedonian:

Rolistene! Azâ nâ
e – re! – njatil
ti-anji, sh-câ âoa
raze a dâm
e any ti ledzi,
pâ, tâ amea yieâ,
raz.
Ilcea



Daco-Romanian

Rolisteneo! Azi ne
e – ascultă! – cea mai frumoasă zi a tinereţii
pentru ani, şi [mai ascultă] că aici
sacralităţi le dăm
şi mi te legi
apoi, pe a mea viaţă,
sacru.
Ilcea


The Ezerovo Ring
Rolistena! Today, to us,
there is – listen! – the most beautiful day of our youth
for years, and
[listen too] that here

sacralities we give,
and to me you tie yourself up
then, for my life,
sacredly.
Ilcea


Thracian – Aromanian-MacedonianRomanian English


ΡΟΛΙΣΤΕΝΕ – RolisteneRolistenoRolistena
ΑΣ – azâazitoday
Ν – neto us
Ε – eethere is
ΡΕ – reascultălisten
ΝΕΑΤΙΛ – njatilcea mai frumoasă zi din tinereţethe most beautiful day of the youth
ΤΕ – te, ti, tâpentru for
ΑΝΗ – anjianiyears
Σ – sh'şi and
Κ – that
ΟΑ – âoaaicihere
ΡΑΖΕ – razesacralităţisacralities, wedding vows

Α – alethem
ΔΟΜ – dâmdăm we give
Ε – e şiand
ΑΝ – anymie to me
ΤΙ – titeyourself
ΛΕΖΥ – ledzilegitie up
Π – apoithen
Τ – pefor
ΑΜ – amea a meamy
ΙΗΕ – yieâviaţălife
ΡΑΖ – razsacrusacredly
ΗΛΤΑ – IlceaIlceaIlcea



 
Тука има листа на зборови во Ароманскиот кои се антички (Микенско и од Хомерово) потекло
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Тука има листа на зборови во Ароманскиот кои се антички (Микенско и од Хомерово) потекло
MOSCOPOLE METROPOLA ARMANEASCA

he..he...Mosko i Pole se tipicno vlaski zborovi,posebno na vlasite od Moskva verojatno:pos2:...
i site drugi naseleni mesta,SITE DO EDNO...

bidejki jazikot vi e isti so Homer,sigurno nema da ti e tesko da go prevedes tekstov na Vlaski..
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν:
πολλῶν δ᾽ ἀνθρώπων ἴδεν ἄστεα καὶ νόον ἔγνω,
πολλὰ δ᾽ ὅ γ᾽ ἐν πόντῳ πάθεν ἄλγεα ὃν κατὰ θυμόν,
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ἀρνύμενος ἥν τε ψυχὴν καὶ νόστον ἑταίρων.
ἀλλ᾽ οὐδ᾽ ὣς ἑτάρους ἐρρύσατο, ἱέμενός περ:
αὐτῶν γὰρ σφετέρῃσιν ἀτασθαλίῃσιν ὄλοντο,
νήπιοι, οἳ κατὰ βοῦς Ὑπερίονος Ἠελίοιο
ἤσθιον: αὐτὰρ ὁ τοῖσιν ἀφείλετο νόστιμον ἦμαρ.
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τῶν ἁμόθεν γε, θεά, θύγατερ Διός, εἰπὲ καὶ ἡμῖν.

ἔνθ᾽ ἄλλοι μὲν πάντες, ὅσοι φύγον αἰπὺν ὄλεθρον,
οἴκοι ἔσαν, πόλεμόν τε πεφευγότες ἠδὲ θάλασσαν:
τὸν δ᾽ οἶον νόστου κεχρημένον ἠδὲ γυναικὸς
νύμφη πότνι᾽ ἔρυκε Καλυψὼ δῖα θεάων
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pozdrav od Homer..

a zborovite koi ti se poznati,sporedi gi i so Ruskiot da receme...pa potoa zboruvaj za "Vlaska vrska"..
 
he..he...Mosko i Pole se tipicno vlaski zborovi,posebno na vlasite od Moskva verojatno:pos2:...
i site drugi naseleni mesta,SITE DO EDNO...

bidejki jazikot vi e isti so Homer,sigurno nema da ti e tesko da go prevedes tekstov na Vlaski..
ἄνδρα μοι ἔννεπε, μοῦσα, πολύτροπον, ὃς μάλα πολλὰ
πλάγχθη, ἐπεὶ Τροίης ἱερὸν πτολίεθρον ἔπερσεν:
πολλῶν δ᾽ ἀνθρώπων ἴδεν ἄστεα καὶ νόον ἔγνω,
πολλὰ δ᾽ ὅ γ᾽ ἐν πόντῳ πάθεν ἄλγεα ὃν κατὰ θυμόν,
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ἀρνύμενος ἥν τε ψυχὴν καὶ νόστον ἑταίρων.
ἀλλ᾽ οὐδ᾽ ὣς ἑτάρους ἐρρύσατο, ἱέμενός περ:
αὐτῶν γὰρ σφετέρῃσιν ἀτασθαλίῃσιν ὄλοντο,
νήπιοι, οἳ κατὰ βοῦς Ὑπερίονος Ἠελίοιο
ἤσθιον: αὐτὰρ ὁ τοῖσιν ἀφείλετο νόστιμον ἦμαρ.
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τῶν ἁμόθεν γε, θεά, θύγατερ Διός, εἰπὲ καὶ ἡμῖν.

ἔνθ᾽ ἄλλοι μὲν πάντες, ὅσοι φύγον αἰπὺν ὄλεθρον,
οἴκοι ἔσαν, πόλεμόν τε πεφευγότες ἠδὲ θάλασσαν:
τὸν δ᾽ οἶον νόστου κεχρημένον ἠδὲ γυναικὸς
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pozdrav od Homer..

a zborovite koi ti se poznati,sporedi gi i so Ruskiot da receme...pa potoa zboruvaj za "Vlaska vrska"..


Ајдееее:nesvest: и ти почна да забегуваш како Picasso и да делиш зборовите и да ги претставуваш како словенски :nesvest: а тој нормално ги претставува како албански.

Moscopole -не е поле :uvo: туку е планинско место, од секој очекував ама од anaveno најмалку.Се раширила влахофобијата.
 
He, he...slabo ti odi so Homer,a?
Jas ja sakam Kaliopi, neznam dali taa mene, a ti ne me sakash...

Tuku, ako gi otfrlime MK, Koine zborovite od vlaskiot, ostanuva deka ste slicni so romanskiot jazik.
A ve delat mnogu kilometri...denes.
Brojnosta na Balkanot vi e mala za da iskazete drevnost.
Nema vlaska toponimija, oronimija ...somnitelni ste...mnogu.

P.S. Za taa nebulozata sto si ja napisal, edno prasanje? Kako se vika na vlaski "pole"?
 

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