demmian
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A kaj vas Bugarite dali se registrirani?
Nema takvo nesto vo Makedonija!
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Nema takvo nesto vo Makedonija!
sonne
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Aма ти пак сакаш грчко оро да играш а "Зарамо" да го викаш. Кој ви ја барал или бранел Петрова нива, или Стојкова нива. Ваша си е очи си вадете таму, ама на Мечкин Камен не ве сакам, бе. Од ова појасно не може да биде.Jaс пак ти кажувам,не е проблема само до цвекето... ние си полагаме цвеке на Петрова нива исто...
Реалист сум.
Претеран.
Ваша делегација нема шанси во блиска иднина (20 години) да чествува Илинден на Мечкин Камен со бугарски знамиња меѓу македонските патриоти.
Петрова нива не ви ја сакаме. Не оти е бугарска, не ни треба. Си имаме доволни свои за разлика од некои.
sonne
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Ех, ако се работи за 24 мај тогаш треба да преговараме со пола Европа. Зошто пак баш со вас треба специјално?Ако беше реалист мораше да знаеш дека не зависи ни от тебе,ни от мене... единствениот случаj во коjто може да зависи от тебе е да си Груевски , а jaс Борисов.
Ама интересно зашто се зафативте само за Илинден... никаде не е речено за него,а за заедничките празници. Таков празник е и 24 маj
Спете спокоjно,никоj нема да ви земе Мечкин камен.
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Например никоj освен РМ и БГ не обслужва литургиja на гроба на свети Климент от православните,а мислам даже и от католиците
Това само како пример ти го давам. Има уште доста обшти датуми.Не са само тези.
sonne
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Добро, добро позната ни е таа манија да не следите насекаде и да сакате да бидете како нас. В крајот на краиштата секој Бугарин кога ќе порасне сака да стане Македонец.:smir:Например никоj освен РМ и БГ не обслужва литургиja на гроба на свети Климент от православните,а мислам даже и от католиците
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Да,това ни е детската мечта.
S
smart ass
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Абе имаме попис...Nema takvo nesto vo Makedonija!
http://www.maccinema.com.mk/makedonija.asp
Учете бре!!!!!
Ихх аспаруховци...
Од 1994...НЕМА БУГАРИ..А и Сега немаше...и тек 2011 ќе се јават двајца без тројца:pos2:
http://www.macbro.org/MK/makedonija/naselenie.html
ilija^veles
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А тие што ќе се јават, имаат брат/сестра што е Македонец/Македонка :pos2: и на крај ко ќе видиш работава е чорба...
S
smart ass
Гостин
Епа ја се ќудам по која логика брат Бугар а сестрата македонка и + другио брат Македонец...ова е за во мистерии...бугари во македонија после 45 Нема...освен тоа што било казнето за злочини!!
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Od toa vi se strav i vi fata panika.Od Bugarite vo Makedonija.90 godini vi nabivat v tikvite brakjata srboslavci deka nemalo Bugari ama padna komunizmo i se okaza ce gi ima i to dosta
Inak edna interesna diskusija po a1.Vidite go i rezultatot od anketata :smir:
http://a1.com.mk/video-home.asp?VideoID=1470
PS Samo kato vidov koj e otvoril i temata i se mi stana jasno.Makedoncki koj po site forumi gi laze decata deka imal edin dedo vo asnom, dvama pradedovci v Ilindenskoto vostanie, i izobsto po edna baba dedo vo sekoj nastan :pos2:
Krste Misirkov wrote:1. We speak Bulgarian language and we believed with Bulgarians is our strong power.
2. The Bulgarians in Macedonia. The future of Macedonia is spiritual union of the Bulgarians in Macedonia.
3. The Macedonian Slavs are called Bulgarians.
4. The biggest part of the population are called Bulgarians.
5. All spoke that Macedonians are Bulgarians. Until 1978 all including Russian Government spoke the Macedonians are Bulgarians. But after the Berlin Congress the Serbs came with pretension to have Macedonia. They try to change the European opinion that in Macedonia there are Serbian too.
6. If Ilinden uprising win we will be thankful to Bulgarians, but Serbians try to compete with Bulgarians and spend a lot of money and propaganda. If Macedonia is autonomic there will be no space for propaganda and the Serbs have to leave Bulgarian in peace.
7. The Ilinden Uprising Committee is Bulgarian.
8. Bulgarian Language and Bulgarian name. The Committee is ready to give guarantee to Europe that Macedonia will not unify with Bulgaria, but they can’t take the Bulgarian name and language from Macedonia!
9. Unification between Turks and Bulgarians in Macedonia. Serbia and Greece do not want to give us autonomous and independent Macedonia, because they see this as a fist step to unification. In Macedonia have only pure Bulgarian population, which can’t be unified with the Turks.
10. Serbia is against autonomous Macedonia. Serbia is afraid because Macedonia with the Bulgarian population will have tendency to united with Bulgaria and for this reason Serbia will not allow this.
11. They divided us and now they do not allow us to unify. We are living now 25 years divided from Bulgaria and they do not allow us to unify? We call ourselves Bulgarians or Macedonians and see us as separate and radically different from the Serbs with Bulgarian national consciousness.
12. Our Grandfathers call themselves Bulgarians. They never thing that we will be having such a problem to call ourselves so.
13. Bulgarian Literally Language. We the Macedonians voluntarily choose one and the same language with Bulgarians long before the liberation of Bulgaria from Turkey. The prohibition from the Serbs to use our literally language, which is the only one connection between us and Bulgarians is significant violation of our human rights. .. and further.. when they forbid us to call ourselves Bulgarians, to learn Bulgarian history and to be ashamed from everything which connect us with Bulgarians. It is enough to learn our Macedonian culture and history to understand that we are very different from Serbian nationality.
14. There no difference between Bulgarian and Macedonian Slav. The Greeks in 1804 long before Bulgarian exarchate do not make any difference between Bulgarian and West Macedonian dialect.
15. Bulgarian national name of Macedonians. In the IX century in the first Bulgarian kingdom we do not have anything against this Bulgarian national name for us and for the rest of Bulgarians in Bulgaria.
16. We Macedonian Bulgarians (Macedonians) like Bulgarian state as our own.
17. The Serbs are much inferior than we are. We demand freedom for all of us and not to be material for assimilation experiments of the Serbs, which stand much inferior from us in spiritual narrow-mindedness and chauvinism.
18. The Serbs come to the idea of the Macedonian nationality. The Serbs develop the concept for special Macedonian Nation, which they put in the south Macedonia. They declare north Macedonia as a pure Serbian land. Middle Macedonia as a transition between Serbian and Macedonian language.
19. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian. Bulgaria make a big error when recognize the territory for “neutral”. It is pure Bulgarian and the population in Skopje and surrounding area is pure Bulgarian.
20. Why the Serbs want Macedonia? What Serbian you can find in this pure Bulgarian land, which is since 6 century till today Bulgarian, despite of all vicissitude of the historical destiny.
21. Serbian-Greek attempt on the Bulgarians in Macedonia. Because of the treaty between Serbia and Greece Bulgaria was robed and 2 Millions Bulgarians where conquered from Serbia and Greece. Yes! To many damage did the Serbs on Bulgaria, Macedonia and Dobrudja and with this they do not stop! They filled that their vicious work will be discovered and to be prosecuted by the Slavic consciousness because of the freedom of 1/3 of Bulgarians – the Bulgarians in Macedonia.
22. The lies about Bulgarian and Bulgaria. Restoration of the human rights of the Bulgarians in Macedonia and Dobrudja, despite of the lies spread for Bulgaria and Bulgarians! Who is against Great Bulgaria, he is against the Slavs!
23. Krali Marko songs in Macedonia are from Bulgarian origin. The songs of Krali Marko in Macedonia are from Bulgarian origin and speak for the Bulgarian influence over the Serbs and not the opposite.
24. The Serbs will coarse many wars, if the “Dushan empire” will not disappear. In the last quarter of the XIX century the Serbs start to dream to restore this abandon from Serbs it selves empire. With intrigues and and allies they conquer big part of Bulgarian Macedonia. But this Serbian advantages of 1912 coarse the war in 1913 and they coarse the war in 1915-1918 and will coarse many more wars, unless “Dushan empire” get liquidate in the same way as in XIV century on the principal of the self-determination of the nations.
25. Serbs falsify the history. In Bulgaria Macedonians have all personal rights, freedom of expression and self-determination in Bulgaria. The Serbs try to destroy the soul of the Macedonians and for that reason the falsify the hole history. In this Serbian logic and Serbian fillings there are something abnormal, which is prove of the failure of the Serbian state. They are afraid from the Macedonians in Macedonia and also this living outside.
26. The Macedonian population is against Serbs. You have to know that because your Serbian politics against Macedonians you have against you all past present and future Balkan governments and the Macedonian population.
27. The Bulgarians are our fellow citizens. The European recognize that only independent sate will put an end of the competition conquer and hegemony on the Balkan. An will end once forever violence of the new conquer. And everlasting peace on the Balkan and in Europe will rise. Greece and Serbia will loose territorially and les Bulgaria and will win all Macedonians.
28. The Serbs forbid us to celebrate all Bulgarian holidays. We are forced to celebrate St. Sava and forbid to celebrate St. Cyril and St. Methodius and Ilinden Uprising.
29. Our souls are in Bulgaria. Serbia conquer the land and the body of Macedonians, the souls are in Bulgaria and with Bulgaria.
30. Krste Petkov Misirkov defines himself as a Bulgarian. 1897 I was accepted in Petersburg University in Russia and five years I was Bulgarian student community as Bulgarian.
31. Self appreciation of the statement in the book “For Macedonian matters”. The readers of this article will be very surprised of the big controversy opinion, which they will meet here in comparison with the article “For Macedonian matters”. To understand this contradiction I will remember you, that I wrote as an improvised politicians
http://history-of-macedonia.com/wordpress/2007/03/16/linguistic-origins-of-fyrom-from-bulgarian-dialect-to-macedonian-language/
2. The Bulgarians in Macedonia. The future of Macedonia is spiritual union of the Bulgarians in Macedonia.
3. The Macedonian Slavs are called Bulgarians.
4. The biggest part of the population are called Bulgarians.
5. All spoke that Macedonians are Bulgarians. Until 1978 all including Russian Government spoke the Macedonians are Bulgarians. But after the Berlin Congress the Serbs came with pretension to have Macedonia. They try to change the European opinion that in Macedonia there are Serbian too.
6. If Ilinden uprising win we will be thankful to Bulgarians, but Serbians try to compete with Bulgarians and spend a lot of money and propaganda. If Macedonia is autonomic there will be no space for propaganda and the Serbs have to leave Bulgarian in peace.
7. The Ilinden Uprising Committee is Bulgarian.
8. Bulgarian Language and Bulgarian name. The Committee is ready to give guarantee to Europe that Macedonia will not unify with Bulgaria, but they can’t take the Bulgarian name and language from Macedonia!
9. Unification between Turks and Bulgarians in Macedonia. Serbia and Greece do not want to give us autonomous and independent Macedonia, because they see this as a fist step to unification. In Macedonia have only pure Bulgarian population, which can’t be unified with the Turks.
10. Serbia is against autonomous Macedonia. Serbia is afraid because Macedonia with the Bulgarian population will have tendency to united with Bulgaria and for this reason Serbia will not allow this.
11. They divided us and now they do not allow us to unify. We are living now 25 years divided from Bulgaria and they do not allow us to unify? We call ourselves Bulgarians or Macedonians and see us as separate and radically different from the Serbs with Bulgarian national consciousness.
12. Our Grandfathers call themselves Bulgarians. They never thing that we will be having such a problem to call ourselves so.
13. Bulgarian Literally Language. We the Macedonians voluntarily choose one and the same language with Bulgarians long before the liberation of Bulgaria from Turkey. The prohibition from the Serbs to use our literally language, which is the only one connection between us and Bulgarians is significant violation of our human rights. .. and further.. when they forbid us to call ourselves Bulgarians, to learn Bulgarian history and to be ashamed from everything which connect us with Bulgarians. It is enough to learn our Macedonian culture and history to understand that we are very different from Serbian nationality.
14. There no difference between Bulgarian and Macedonian Slav. The Greeks in 1804 long before Bulgarian exarchate do not make any difference between Bulgarian and West Macedonian dialect.
15. Bulgarian national name of Macedonians. In the IX century in the first Bulgarian kingdom we do not have anything against this Bulgarian national name for us and for the rest of Bulgarians in Bulgaria.
16. We Macedonian Bulgarians (Macedonians) like Bulgarian state as our own.
17. The Serbs are much inferior than we are. We demand freedom for all of us and not to be material for assimilation experiments of the Serbs, which stand much inferior from us in spiritual narrow-mindedness and chauvinism.
18. The Serbs come to the idea of the Macedonian nationality. The Serbs develop the concept for special Macedonian Nation, which they put in the south Macedonia. They declare north Macedonia as a pure Serbian land. Middle Macedonia as a transition between Serbian and Macedonian language.
19. The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian. Bulgaria make a big error when recognize the territory for “neutral”. It is pure Bulgarian and the population in Skopje and surrounding area is pure Bulgarian.
20. Why the Serbs want Macedonia? What Serbian you can find in this pure Bulgarian land, which is since 6 century till today Bulgarian, despite of all vicissitude of the historical destiny.
21. Serbian-Greek attempt on the Bulgarians in Macedonia. Because of the treaty between Serbia and Greece Bulgaria was robed and 2 Millions Bulgarians where conquered from Serbia and Greece. Yes! To many damage did the Serbs on Bulgaria, Macedonia and Dobrudja and with this they do not stop! They filled that their vicious work will be discovered and to be prosecuted by the Slavic consciousness because of the freedom of 1/3 of Bulgarians – the Bulgarians in Macedonia.
22. The lies about Bulgarian and Bulgaria. Restoration of the human rights of the Bulgarians in Macedonia and Dobrudja, despite of the lies spread for Bulgaria and Bulgarians! Who is against Great Bulgaria, he is against the Slavs!
23. Krali Marko songs in Macedonia are from Bulgarian origin. The songs of Krali Marko in Macedonia are from Bulgarian origin and speak for the Bulgarian influence over the Serbs and not the opposite.
24. The Serbs will coarse many wars, if the “Dushan empire” will not disappear. In the last quarter of the XIX century the Serbs start to dream to restore this abandon from Serbs it selves empire. With intrigues and and allies they conquer big part of Bulgarian Macedonia. But this Serbian advantages of 1912 coarse the war in 1913 and they coarse the war in 1915-1918 and will coarse many more wars, unless “Dushan empire” get liquidate in the same way as in XIV century on the principal of the self-determination of the nations.
25. Serbs falsify the history. In Bulgaria Macedonians have all personal rights, freedom of expression and self-determination in Bulgaria. The Serbs try to destroy the soul of the Macedonians and for that reason the falsify the hole history. In this Serbian logic and Serbian fillings there are something abnormal, which is prove of the failure of the Serbian state. They are afraid from the Macedonians in Macedonia and also this living outside.
26. The Macedonian population is against Serbs. You have to know that because your Serbian politics against Macedonians you have against you all past present and future Balkan governments and the Macedonian population.
27. The Bulgarians are our fellow citizens. The European recognize that only independent sate will put an end of the competition conquer and hegemony on the Balkan. An will end once forever violence of the new conquer. And everlasting peace on the Balkan and in Europe will rise. Greece and Serbia will loose territorially and les Bulgaria and will win all Macedonians.
28. The Serbs forbid us to celebrate all Bulgarian holidays. We are forced to celebrate St. Sava and forbid to celebrate St. Cyril and St. Methodius and Ilinden Uprising.
29. Our souls are in Bulgaria. Serbia conquer the land and the body of Macedonians, the souls are in Bulgaria and with Bulgaria.
30. Krste Petkov Misirkov defines himself as a Bulgarian. 1897 I was accepted in Petersburg University in Russia and five years I was Bulgarian student community as Bulgarian.
31. Self appreciation of the statement in the book “For Macedonian matters”. The readers of this article will be very surprised of the big controversy opinion, which they will meet here in comparison with the article “For Macedonian matters”. To understand this contradiction I will remember you, that I wrote as an improvised politicians
http://history-of-macedonia.com/wordpress/2007/03/16/linguistic-origins-of-fyrom-from-bulgarian-dialect-to-macedonian-language/
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Лажеш. Засрами се малку. Ова никогаш н го кажал Крсте Мисирков, туку најверојатно го кажал Каракачанов откако шрмкнал од белото па гледал визии за Бугари насекаде. Срамота бре, 21 век да лажеш вака!
da_be_man
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Кај нас македонците има изреки како „губиш како Грк„ „должиш како Грк„ „се вртиш накај ветерот како Бугарин„
Дека се вртите како дувне ветерот има доволно примери од последниве 100 години кога сменивте доста системи; од царски во фашисти па во кумунистички за на крај да завршите како најголеми демократи...следно е да ве прогласат за светци.
Во еден договор со вас би требало да има:
1. Признавање на Македонците и давање автономија на Македонците
2 Да се извините за Ваташа и сите други злочини за време на окупацијата на Македонија
3. Да изградите споменик сред Софија како потсетник за злоделата направени над Македонците. Исто како германците шо направија за евреите 500м од парламентот.
4. Репарации за уништеното во втора светска
5. Враќање на сите културни и историски добра украдени и на коњски коли однесени во вашите мувлосани музеи
Позадинската војска што беше се нашла во Македонија по капитулацијата од паника ги кинела реверите и шиеле петокраки. Таа е вашата карактеристика...
еве за потсетување лошите
еве ги добрите бранители и борци за слобода на „цела„ македонија
битолско преспански одред „Даме Груев„ (1942)во традиционално комитска облека за потсетување на долгата и неисцрпна борба
трета Македонска Ударна Бригада со заробен бугарски топ после битката на чупино брдо на 15 јуни 1944.
Македонка од македонската ослободителна војска на влез од слободно Скопје
Дека се вртите како дувне ветерот има доволно примери од последниве 100 години кога сменивте доста системи; од царски во фашисти па во кумунистички за на крај да завршите како најголеми демократи...следно е да ве прогласат за светци.
Во еден договор со вас би требало да има:
1. Признавање на Македонците и давање автономија на Македонците
2 Да се извините за Ваташа и сите други злочини за време на окупацијата на Македонија
3. Да изградите споменик сред Софија како потсетник за злоделата направени над Македонците. Исто како германците шо направија за евреите 500м од парламентот.
4. Репарации за уништеното во втора светска
5. Враќање на сите културни и историски добра украдени и на коњски коли однесени во вашите мувлосани музеи
Позадинската војска што беше се нашла во Македонија по капитулацијата од паника ги кинела реверите и шиеле петокраки. Таа е вашата карактеристика...
еве за потсетување лошите
еве ги добрите бранители и борци за слобода на „цела„ македонија
битолско преспански одред „Даме Груев„ (1942)во традиционално комитска облека за потсетување на долгата и неисцрпна борба
трета Македонска Ударна Бригада со заробен бугарски топ после битката на чупино брдо на 15 јуни 1944.
Македонка од македонската ослободителна војска на влез од слободно Скопје
PowerUp
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Би ли ми потсетил последниот по време постоечки правен субјект на државност по вашите земи, кој да постои и денес? Да не биде дека ако треба да се плаќаат репарации мора да ги платаме на самите нас? Ајде прекинете со глупостите, гледаме напред. Другите ти небивалици нема да коментирам.