Американски фудбал - NFL лига

[ElNinho]

AB и Левион Бел ќе играат СБ, Тончи, Бене и Томлин лајкс дис.

 

[dragonsky]

Автоматски споено мислење: 26 јануари 2021

Barnwell: Tom Brady's 10 Super Bowl paths, and where this run ranks among the toughest ever

This is the first time Brady has had to win three games to make it to the Super Bowl, and he played all three on the road.

www.espn.com

Плејоф run-ов на Тампа е 10ти најтежок плејоф ран во историјата и најтежок season run на Брејди до Супербол рангирано по квалитет на екипи

 

[beneamata]

AB и Левион Бел ќе играат СБ, Тончи, Бене и Томлин лајкс дис.

Ни еден од нив нема да се спомнува како дел од тимот после 5 години, скоро небитни се

 

[dragonsky]

Петти дуел на Брејди и Махомс

Брејди ги доби првите 2, а Махомс следните 2

 

[ElNinho]

Ова е сулудо

 

[true blue]

@ElNinho епа некој користи TB12 methods, а некој има вакви методи: https://www.golfdigest.com/story/ben-roethlisbergers-offseason-fitness-program-consisted-of-playing-golf-and-drinking-beer-to-which-we-say-hell-yes

Не е дис према Бен, ама резултатите на ТБ на тие години не се случајност, ниту само „добри гени“, туку и грижата за себе, познавање на телото и можностите на телото и како да се продолжат истите. Плус, лидершип скилс овер 9000.

 

[dace@mkd]

Го изгледав видеото пошто Јутуб ми го спамира во последно време (не сум единствен според кометарите), и неможам да поверувам колку е потценет ТБ на почетокот на драфтов и кој се бил пред него пик. Не е најбрз, нема стамина, не е крупен, не фрла најбрзо и пак е најдобар.

 

[dragonsky]

Го изгледав видеото пошто Јутуб ми го спамира во последно време (не сум единствен според кометарите), и неможам да поверувам колку е потценет ТБ на почетокот на драфтов и кој се бил пред него пик. Не е најбрз, нема стамина, не е крупен, не фрла најбрзо и пак е најдобар.

Еве во спојлер, подолг текст од еден фан негов што го следел уште од млади денови:

Спојлер

As a Michigan Wolverines fan who grew up idolizing Brady when he was there, it's been pretty surreal to see his career evolve. He's why I started following the Patriots, and while I'm sure many Bucs fans have quickly grown to love him, you may not know too much about him.

Sure, they know about his Super Bowl rings and his supermodel wife. Some think he's arrogant, a cheater, or the spoiled kid blessed with a storybook life. But they don't know much about his origin story.

Many NFL fans don't know about Tom Brady, the scrawny teenager who didn't even play football until his freshman year of high school, where he was a bench-warmer (occasionally playing LB) on an 0-8-1 team that hadn't scored a touchdown all season. He didn't even get to throw the ball until his good friend, the starting QB, quit the team to play basketball.

Back then, he was known as Maureen's little brother. Tom had 3 older sisters who excelled at sports. Maureen was his older sister, a Junior Olympian and All-American softball player at Fresno State. His middle sister Julie got a soccer scholarship, while Nancy would earn a softball scholarship as well. Being the only boy with 3 older athletic sisters had it's perks though. Brady didn't have to share clothes, and he liked when his sisters brought their girlfriends over to the house. The downside was they would dress him up, even paint his toenails. If you saw the clip of him chatting with Brees and his family after the playoff game, you'll hear him tell the kids to be "nice to your sister" as he's leaving. And this is a great story on growing up with his sisters.

He might have been the worst athlete in the family growing up. But he was dedicated, listened to his coaches, took drills seriously and worked hard after practice and at home to improve. Controversy started early with Tom. As a sophomore, he took the team to the championship game, with a chance to win it on the last drive of the game, but the sprinklers somehow mysteriously went off (twice!) during that last drive and they fell just short.

He wasn't highly recruited coming out of high school. Only local Cal showed any interest, so his father helped him cut up some tape after his junior season, and they sent out videos to 54 schools, which finally got him on the radar. He caught the eye of a coaching assistant at Michigan, who took the tape to head coach Gary Moeller. Brady had a few more options, but decided on Michigan.

But the head coach who recruited Brady was fired for drunk driving. The coaching assistant who championed him was also gone for a DC job elsewhere. Brady's biggest believers were gone, and Brady would be the 7th-stringer as a freshman, where he worked himself up to the starting job as a junior.

Or so he thought. Right behind him was freshman and sure-fire 1st-round prospect Drew Henson, the Golden Boy recruit, and the boosters pushed him hard. During the Wolverines Autograph Day, there was a line to midfield for fans wanting Henson signatures, while starter Brady stood in the tunnel by himself. But he played every rep in practice like it was his last (and it might have been), and he played every snap in games like it was his last (again, it could have been), and that mental toughness helped him when games got tight.

And then he went to New England, a 6th-round pick on a team with a Pro Bowl QB (Drew Bledsoe), a proven veteran backup (John Friesz), and a developmental QB (Michael Bishop). The team thought he was a good player, expecting him to go in the 3rd round, and they didn't relaly need a QB. But as he continued to drop in the draft, the Patriots almost reluctantly took him. As Scott Pioli explained:

"When we took over the 2000 team we had a roster of 42 players and were $10.5 million over the salary cap," Pioli said on The Dan Patrick Show. "We had to get down to 39 players to get under the cap...We liked Brady a little bit. But the one thing we had with [just] 39 players on the roster was we had three quarterbacks."

So they really didn't need Brady, which is why they didn't draft him for a while. Robert Kraft likes to remind people about Antwan Harris. Who's that? The guy the Patriots drafted before Tom Brady.

But the team did draft him and inexplicably kept him on the team. It was a wasted roster spot for that season according to Belichick, and there were some red flags from his Michigan days, but they just loved his makeup. And then Brady runs into Kraft and introduces himself. Here's how Kraft retells the story:

“I still have the image of Tom Brady coming down the old Foxboro stadium steps with that pizza box under his arm, a skinny beanpole, and when he introduced himself to me and said ‘Hi Mr. Kraft,’ he was about to say who he was, but I said ‘I know who you are, you’re Tom Brady. You’re our sixth round draft choice,’” recalled Kraft. “And he looked me in the eye and said ‘I’m the best decision this organization has ever made.’ It looks like he could be right.”

And then he's the backup to Bledsoe, who signs the largest deal in NFL history for $100M, but Brady still has the confidence to think he'll be the starter. He's telling his buddy from college, Browns TE Aaron Shea, that he's going to beat out Bledsoe, and that he almost won the starting job. And when Drew gets hurt (Mo Lewis changes the fate of history with that hit), Brady gets his chance. He's the plucky young kid with all the intangibles and none of the talent. He's a game manager who keeps managing to win games. And then the fairy tale goes on with the Tuck rule before the upset of the Rams (Ricky Proehl, a dynasty was born that night, you were right).

And then he goes on to win 2 more Super Bowls in the next 3 years, he takes team-friendly deals long before he meets Gisele (His big deal in 2005 was 20 to 40% below market depending on who you ask), he insists on bringing his OL into his Visa commercials (if you have not seen them), he's now the golden kid, the one who can do no wrong, America's wonder boy.

But then comes 2007. First, he shows he's not a game manager anymore. But now the Patriots are bullies. They beat up on teams in the first half of the season. They're accused of running up the score, exhibiting poor sportsmanship. And then the Spygate allegations come out, and suddenly the entire world turns on Tom Brady and the Patriots.

Now they're arrogant. Now they're conceited. Now they're cheaters. Brady meets Gisele, and opposing fans can't believe how spoiled he is, how he doesn't need money because of her, can you believe how everything goes his way?

But it's not true. Brady is the ultimate example of how any teenage bench-warmer can become the GOAT through hard work. He should be celebrated, he should be revered, not vilified or mocked. He's not just a winner, but a leader in every sense of the word. His teammates love him, even going back to his Michigan days, even his Sierra days. Anyone who actually knows him raves about him as a genuine human being. It doesn't really matter to the general public though.

The Patriots rebuild. Brady carries the 31st-ranked defense to a Super Bowl appearance during the 2011 season, but they fall just short with an injured Gronk and a Welker drop that still haunts my dreams at least once a year. The next few years are even tougher, Brady struggles without consistent weapons as Gronkowski faces injury issues, Hernandez faces jail. The Patriots have to be thinking the end is near, so they spend a 2nd-round pick on Jimmy Garoppolo.

In 2014, Kansas City blows them out, and Brady plays terribly, leading to reporters openly questioning whether it's time to hand the starting job to Jimmy G. And Belichick smirks and says "We're onto Cincinnati."

They won in Cincinnati, and then Buffalo, and then 7 in a row, 9 of their last 10 before a meaningless week 17 game. They came back from double-digit deficits (twice) to Baltimore in the divisional round, then blew out the Colts 45-7.

That Colts blowout would also be known as Deflategate. Not going to re-litigate it, science is science, but it obviously cast him back in the role of supreme villain.

Now they're in the Super Bowl. There's all the controversy. But they mute it. Brady faces the decade's best defense, and down double-digits in the 4th quarter, comes back to win (with a hand from Malcolm Butler)

In 2016, Brady faces a 4-game suspension for the Deflategate controversy. He fought the league and Goodell and they took him down. Or so it seemed.

So much time was spent on the ideal gas law and which gauge was which and ball boys and destroyed phones. But in the background, Brady's mom is sick, she's battling cancer. He's being attacked publicly from every angle. But he's got more important concerns.

He comes back with a vengeance. He knows his mom's schedule revolves around chemo on Thursdays and watching his games on Sundays. He gives her something to watch. The team rolls all the way to the Super Bowl. His mom finishes chemo, a bout with pneumonia, and is finally well enough to travel to her first game in-person that season, the Super Bowl. Kraft tells Brady before the game they have to win it for his mom. She witnesses the most incredible Super Bowl comeback ever. Brady gets on the podium and accepts a trophy from Goodell. Not even the Commissioner can stop him. He has 5 Super Bowls, more than any other QB in the history of the game. He is the GOAT. But he's not thinking about his legacy so much as his family. "She's my everything. I just love her so much."

But this can't go on forever. The Patriots are struggling to sort out the future. They never expected Tom to still be here. Jimmy Garoppolo has been waiting for his chance. The team has to make a decision. They reluctantly choose Tom, and trade Jimmy. Brady rewards them with an MVP in 2017 and another Super Bowl trip. And after losing a high-scoring game, Brady drags them back to the Super Bowl again in 2018, this time winning his 6th Super Bowl.

The team still doesn't know what to do with him. They don't want to commit long-term because he's well beyond the expected expiry date. At Michigan, Brady had to prove himself every single game, every single snap. It's starting to feel that way again as his time in New England comes to a close.

After a difficult 2019 season where Brady no longer feels welcome, he decides to take his talents to Tampa. With no off-season due to Covid, no preseason, new system, new faces, he is inconsistent, and struggles early on. The questions and doubts start to pile up. But once again, after the bye, he comes out swinging. He starts hitting the deep balls the doubters said he couldn't throw. The handful of remaining haters say he relied on home-field advantage, but he wins 3 playoff games on the road. A few others point to the mediocre AFC East, so he goes 11-5 in the NFC South as well as the best in the NFC on his way to another Super Bowl.

Will he win his 7th? Maybe. Maybe not. In a way, it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things (though obviously matters quite a bit to Bucs fans). It won't change his narrative either way. Win or lose, he's the greatest of all time, and with a year away from New England, proven every last doubter wrong.

But he's still Maureen's little brother. He still carries that chip on his shoulder from his Michigan days. He still tears up thinking about his fall in the draft, and how grateful he is to play football for a living instead of selling insurance like he was planning if football hadn't worked out. He's the best. He's the GOAT. And whether you love him or hate him, one day you will tell your kids and your grand kids that you saw him play.

 

[dace@mkd]

Еве во спојлер, подолг текст од еден фан негов што го следел уште од млади денови:

Спојлер

As a Michigan Wolverines fan who grew up idolizing Brady when he was there, it's been pretty surreal to see his career evolve. He's why I started following the Patriots, and while I'm sure many Bucs fans have quickly grown to love him, you may not know too much about him.

Sure, they know about his Super Bowl rings and his supermodel wife. Some think he's arrogant, a cheater, or the spoiled kid blessed with a storybook life. But they don't know much about his origin story.

Many NFL fans don't know about Tom Brady, the scrawny teenager who didn't even play football until his freshman year of high school, where he was a bench-warmer (occasionally playing LB) on an 0-8-1 team that hadn't scored a touchdown all season. He didn't even get to throw the ball until his good friend, the starting QB, quit the team to play basketball.

Back then, he was known as Maureen's little brother. Tom had 3 older sisters who excelled at sports. Maureen was his older sister, a Junior Olympian and All-American softball player at Fresno State. His middle sister Julie got a soccer scholarship, while Nancy would earn a softball scholarship as well. Being the only boy with 3 older athletic sisters had it's perks though. Brady didn't have to share clothes, and he liked when his sisters brought their girlfriends over to the house. The downside was they would dress him up, even paint his toenails. If you saw the clip of him chatting with Brees and his family after the playoff game, you'll hear him tell the kids to be "nice to your sister" as he's leaving. And this is a great story on growing up with his sisters.

He might have been the worst athlete in the family growing up. But he was dedicated, listened to his coaches, took drills seriously and worked hard after practice and at home to improve. Controversy started early with Tom. As a sophomore, he took the team to the championship game, with a chance to win it on the last drive of the game, but the sprinklers somehow mysteriously went off (twice!) during that last drive and they fell just short.

He wasn't highly recruited coming out of high school. Only local Cal showed any interest, so his father helped him cut up some tape after his junior season, and they sent out videos to 54 schools, which finally got him on the radar. He caught the eye of a coaching assistant at Michigan, who took the tape to head coach Gary Moeller. Brady had a few more options, but decided on Michigan.

But the head coach who recruited Brady was fired for drunk driving. The coaching assistant who championed him was also gone for a DC job elsewhere. Brady's biggest believers were gone, and Brady would be the 7th-stringer as a freshman, where he worked himself up to the starting job as a junior.

Or so he thought. Right behind him was freshman and sure-fire 1st-round prospect Drew Henson, the Golden Boy recruit, and the boosters pushed him hard. During the Wolverines Autograph Day, there was a line to midfield for fans wanting Henson signatures, while starter Brady stood in the tunnel by himself. But he played every rep in practice like it was his last (and it might have been), and he played every snap in games like it was his last (again, it could have been), and that mental toughness helped him when games got tight.

And then he went to New England, a 6th-round pick on a team with a Pro Bowl QB (Drew Bledsoe), a proven veteran backup (John Friesz), and a developmental QB (Michael Bishop). The team thought he was a good player, expecting him to go in the 3rd round, and they didn't relaly need a QB. But as he continued to drop in the draft, the Patriots almost reluctantly took him. As Scott Pioli explained:

"When we took over the 2000 team we had a roster of 42 players and were $10.5 million over the salary cap," Pioli said on The Dan Patrick Show. "We had to get down to 39 players to get under the cap...We liked Brady a little bit. But the one thing we had with [just] 39 players on the roster was we had three quarterbacks."

So they really didn't need Brady, which is why they didn't draft him for a while. Robert Kraft likes to remind people about Antwan Harris. Who's that? The guy the Patriots drafted before Tom Brady.

But the team did draft him and inexplicably kept him on the team. It was a wasted roster spot for that season according to Belichick, and there were some red flags from his Michigan days, but they just loved his makeup. And then Brady runs into Kraft and introduces himself. Here's how Kraft retells the story:

“I still have the image of Tom Brady coming down the old Foxboro stadium steps with that pizza box under his arm, a skinny beanpole, and when he introduced himself to me and said ‘Hi Mr. Kraft,’ he was about to say who he was, but I said ‘I know who you are, you’re Tom Brady. You’re our sixth round draft choice,’” recalled Kraft. “And he looked me in the eye and said ‘I’m the best decision this organization has ever made.’ It looks like he could be right.”

And then he's the backup to Bledsoe, who signs the largest deal in NFL history for $100M, but Brady still has the confidence to think he'll be the starter. He's telling his buddy from college, Browns TE Aaron Shea, that he's going to beat out Bledsoe, and that he almost won the starting job. And when Drew gets hurt (Mo Lewis changes the fate of history with that hit), Brady gets his chance. He's the plucky young kid with all the intangibles and none of the talent. He's a game manager who keeps managing to win games. And then the fairy tale goes on with the Tuck rule before the upset of the Rams (Ricky Proehl, a dynasty was born that night, you were right).

And then he goes on to win 2 more Super Bowls in the next 3 years, he takes team-friendly deals long before he meets Gisele (His big deal in 2005 was 20 to 40% below market depending on who you ask), he insists on bringing his OL into his Visa commercials (if you have not seen them), he's now the golden kid, the one who can do no wrong, America's wonder boy.

But then comes 2007. First, he shows he's not a game manager anymore. But now the Patriots are bullies. They beat up on teams in the first half of the season. They're accused of running up the score, exhibiting poor sportsmanship. And then the Spygate allegations come out, and suddenly the entire world turns on Tom Brady and the Patriots.

Now they're arrogant. Now they're conceited. Now they're cheaters. Brady meets Gisele, and opposing fans can't believe how spoiled he is, how he doesn't need money because of her, can you believe how everything goes his way?

But it's not true. Brady is the ultimate example of how any teenage bench-warmer can become the GOAT through hard work. He should be celebrated, he should be revered, not vilified or mocked. He's not just a winner, but a leader in every sense of the word. His teammates love him, even going back to his Michigan days, even his Sierra days. Anyone who actually knows him raves about him as a genuine human being. It doesn't really matter to the general public though.

The Patriots rebuild. Brady carries the 31st-ranked defense to a Super Bowl appearance during the 2011 season, but they fall just short with an injured Gronk and a Welker drop that still haunts my dreams at least once a year. The next few years are even tougher, Brady struggles without consistent weapons as Gronkowski faces injury issues, Hernandez faces jail. The Patriots have to be thinking the end is near, so they spend a 2nd-round pick on Jimmy Garoppolo.

In 2014, Kansas City blows them out, and Brady plays terribly, leading to reporters openly questioning whether it's time to hand the starting job to Jimmy G. And Belichick smirks and says "We're onto Cincinnati."

They won in Cincinnati, and then Buffalo, and then 7 in a row, 9 of their last 10 before a meaningless week 17 game. They came back from double-digit deficits (twice) to Baltimore in the divisional round, then blew out the Colts 45-7.

That Colts blowout would also be known as Deflategate. Not going to re-litigate it, science is science, but it obviously cast him back in the role of supreme villain.

Now they're in the Super Bowl. There's all the controversy. But they mute it. Brady faces the decade's best defense, and down double-digits in the 4th quarter, comes back to win (with a hand from Malcolm Butler)

In 2016, Brady faces a 4-game suspension for the Deflategate controversy. He fought the league and Goodell and they took him down. Or so it seemed.

So much time was spent on the ideal gas law and which gauge was which and ball boys and destroyed phones. But in the background, Brady's mom is sick, she's battling cancer. He's being attacked publicly from every angle. But he's got more important concerns.

He comes back with a vengeance. He knows his mom's schedule revolves around chemo on Thursdays and watching his games on Sundays. He gives her something to watch. The team rolls all the way to the Super Bowl. His mom finishes chemo, a bout with pneumonia, and is finally well enough to travel to her first game in-person that season, the Super Bowl. Kraft tells Brady before the game they have to win it for his mom. She witnesses the most incredible Super Bowl comeback ever. Brady gets on the podium and accepts a trophy from Goodell. Not even the Commissioner can stop him. He has 5 Super Bowls, more than any other QB in the history of the game. He is the GOAT. But he's not thinking about his legacy so much as his family. "She's my everything. I just love her so much."

But this can't go on forever. The Patriots are struggling to sort out the future. They never expected Tom to still be here. Jimmy Garoppolo has been waiting for his chance. The team has to make a decision. They reluctantly choose Tom, and trade Jimmy. Brady rewards them with an MVP in 2017 and another Super Bowl trip. And after losing a high-scoring game, Brady drags them back to the Super Bowl again in 2018, this time winning his 6th Super Bowl.

The team still doesn't know what to do with him. They don't want to commit long-term because he's well beyond the expected expiry date. At Michigan, Brady had to prove himself every single game, every single snap. It's starting to feel that way again as his time in New England comes to a close.

After a difficult 2019 season where Brady no longer feels welcome, he decides to take his talents to Tampa. With no off-season due to Covid, no preseason, new system, new faces, he is inconsistent, and struggles early on. The questions and doubts start to pile up. But once again, after the bye, he comes out swinging. He starts hitting the deep balls the doubters said he couldn't throw. The handful of remaining haters say he relied on home-field advantage, but he wins 3 playoff games on the road. A few others point to the mediocre AFC East, so he goes 11-5 in the NFC South as well as the best in the NFC on his way to another Super Bowl.

Will he win his 7th? Maybe. Maybe not. In a way, it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things (though obviously matters quite a bit to Bucs fans). It won't change his narrative either way. Win or lose, he's the greatest of all time, and with a year away from New England, proven every last doubter wrong.

But he's still Maureen's little brother. He still carries that chip on his shoulder from his Michigan days. He still tears up thinking about his fall in the draft, and how grateful he is to play football for a living instead of selling insurance like he was planning if football hadn't worked out. He's the best. He's the GOAT. And whether you love him or hate him, one day you will tell your kids and your grand kids that you saw him play.

Одличен коментар, и не можам да верувам уште зборат дека не може да фрле deep balls, а за тоа deflategate има одличен коментар од Бен Афлек на една емисија на ХБО. Мислам дека е ова

Any Given Wednesday with Bill Simmons Ben Affleck on Deflategate HBO from YouTube

youtu.be

 

[ElNinho]

Го изгледав видеото пошто Јутуб ми го спамира во последно време (не сум единствен според кометарите), и неможам да поверувам колку е потценет ТБ на почетокот на драфтов и кој се бил пред него пик. Не е најбрз, нема стамина, не е крупен, не фрла најбрзо и пак е најдобар.

Marc Bulger бил одбран у истата рунда ко Брејди, не знаев ова.

Батево е легенда на Madden 08'. стануваше еден од најдобрите квотери во играта.

Аисто in real life мислам дека е еден од најдолгостажните и со најдобар процент квотери што играле за Ст Луис/Лос Анџелес Ремс.

 

[dragonsky]

Автоматски споено мислење: 28 јануари 2021

Ок, излегоа информациите за дресовите.

Оваа година НФЦ им е ред да се сметаат за домаќини, па се зависеше од Тампа за тоа какви дресови сакаат да носат.

Се решија за бели (визуелно би преферирал црвени), што значи им отворија прилика на Чифс да играат во домашните дресови, нешто што секако Канзас го прифатија.

So there you go:

Bucs: White
Chiefs: Red

Ако на некој му значи ова

 

[dragonsky]

On serious note, само јас мислам дека пак и со Брејди нема да фатат плејоф место?

Сте го виделе распоредот на Тампа?
8-8 9-7 би им дал и со прајм Брејди

 

[ElNinho]

Да, дури и на почеток на сезоната викав ако Брејди успее да стигне до плејоф победа ќе биде тоа успешна сезона за него и нов фластер за хејтерите, ова веќе е зашиена уста на хејтерите форевер.

 

[dragonsky]

Леле ако Бил направи некоја вуду магија и некако Роџерс заврши во Петс....

Автоматски споено мислење: 29 јануари 2021

 

[dragonsky]